Detroit Tigers Thread: Cardiac Cats 2.0 (TTF)

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  1. MG2

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    Sager's been around a while in a pitching coach role in the minors for us. Not sure on Blair. Definitely blasts from a different awful past from the still Tiger Stadium days.
     
  2. ~ taylor ~

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    I'll be honest, when I got the
    alert that Alex Avila was retiring I originally read it at Al Avila and got REALLY excited.
     
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  3. Vinegar Strokes

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    shit. I thought Al Avila really retired after reading your post. What a buzz kill
     
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  4. DetroitNole

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    Tigers have a better record than the Mets and the Angels, only 2.5 games behind the Padres. Kind of crazy
     
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  5. theregionsitter

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    You guys are going to annoy the piss out of me next year
     
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  6. MG2

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    Kind of seems like an odd hire, given his background. Only thing I can see is he's a Stanford guy, so maybe some people really vouched for him in Hinch's circle to recommend him.

     
  7. Vinegar Strokes

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    What’s odd about it? The other name I saw referenced for the job was Will Fucking Rhymes. Regardless he’s probably better than whatever asshole that had the job before him
     
  8. MG2

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    Rhymes is the farm director for the Dodgers the last 3 years, and an asst. scouting director for a year before that.

    Garko was an assistant at Stanford, a AA manager for LAD for one year, a manager at Pacific for two years (losing record both years), and now the replay guy for the Angels.

    If I'm hiring for the job of "VP of Player Development," one of those resumes jumps out a little more to me.
     
  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    agreed. Darko has the better resume
     
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  10. smeegsgreen

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    Is this job aliva’s number 1 guy?
     
  11. Vinegar Strokes

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    no
     
  12. Vinegar Strokes

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    He’s getting non tendered Jason

     
  13. MG2

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    Al telling me to "rest assured" he knows what he's doing isn't working

     
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  14. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yeah Al, the last time you spent big in free agency you brought us Zimmerman, Pelfrey, Lowe and Mike Aviles.
     
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  15. DeToxRox

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  16. Vinegar Strokes

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    I think Chris means he is going to fire Avila.
     
  17. DeToxRox

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    Does Hinch wield more power than any other manager in baseball? It seems like everything we are doing from an organizational perspective has Hinch’s fingerprints all over it.
     
  18. DetroitNole

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    Can someone watching tell me what happened on Haase AB? Gamecast said he got a single with runners on 1st and 3rd and was thrown out "stretching 1st" and no runs scored

    Edit - game cast just updated and added a run
     
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  19. DetroitNole

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    Tork and Greene both with 2b today too
     
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  20. smeegsgreen

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  21. DetroitNole

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    Got a couple games left to get to 30 on the year after having 0 his first 14 games
     
  22. Vinegar Strokes

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    At this point, they both should make roster out of spring training. Not sure what another 30 games in AAA will prove.
     
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  23. DetroitNole

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    Also the triple a playoffs are dumb as hell this year. They are technically in playoffs now. AAA champion this year is just decided on which team has best record last 10 games of season
     
  24. Vinegar Strokes

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    1. Grossman - LF
    2. Schoop - 2B
    3. CoreraSS
    4. Cabrera - DH
    5. Candelario -3B
    6. Hasse - C
    7. Greene - RF
    8. Torkelson - 1B
    9. Baddoo - CF.
     
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  25. Vinegar Strokes

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  26. DetroitNole

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  27. DetroitNole

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    Top free agents include Scherzer, JV, JD, Castellanos and Avisail....bring the band back together
     
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  28. Vinegar Strokes

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    Bally sports has now randomly aired commercials during two consecutive innings. Wtf
     
  29. ~ taylor ~

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    The worst defensive outfield of all time? That checks out for the Tigers.
     
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  30. MG2

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    The guy valued Matt Boyd like an ace is going to rationally listen to offers about his former #1 overall pick with 4 or 5 years of service time remaining. I believe it.
     
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  31. DetroitNole

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    Riley Greene 3/4 tonight got his season average over .300
     
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  32. hoss2183

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    When is the last time a Tigers prospect has had a year as good as Greene/Torkelson in the minors?

    Actual young prospect. Not some retread.
     
  33. Constant

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    MG2 will come with the data, but I cannot recall a hitting prospect blazing through the minors like either of these guys.
     
  34. Brocktoon

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    Probably late 90's with Encarnacion and Kapler.

    Encarnacion was the #15 overall prospect in '97 and went .323, 26 hr, 90 rbi and 17 sbs in AA that year

    Kapler was #34 in '98 and went .322, 28, 146 in AA.

    Both tore it up a lower levels on their way up as well and went the majors the following season
     
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  35. MG2

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    Cameron Maybin had a monster age 20 season in A+ ball. Castellanos was pretty good at ages 20 and 21 in the minors, although not quite on this level.

    Maybin is the only guy this century I think was considered on the same level as those guys. I know Encarnacion was at one point considered one of the best prospects in the game and had a huge year in AA, but I was pretty young and that was both basically pre-internet and pre-advanced metrics so it's hard to compare because the prospect rankings are so much better today than back then.
     
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  36. DetroitNole

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    Maybin made the Tigers at age 20 and was traded before his age 21 season. He wasn't really given the time to put up a season like this. Christin Stewart had a pretty monster year in minors if I remember right, but he was a college guy and I think he was already 23 at the time (although I guess Tork is 22 now)
     
  37. Brocktoon

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    Going down the rabbit hole they also had a bunch of top pitching prospects around that time as well.

    Matt Drews (was #12 when traded to the Tigers), Matt Anderson, Mike Drumright, Seth Greisinger, Francisco Cordero and Jeff Weaver were all top 50 prospects at some point between '97-99.
     
  38. MG2

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    Maybin was 20 in A+ ball in 2007 and had a 145 wRC+ in 83 games. It wasn't as impressive as what Greene has done, but he was definitely considered a top 10 prospect at the time, and the only thing that might have pushed that back a bit by the time he was dealt for Miggy that winter was they stupidly called him up so soon after like a week in AA before he was ready.

    I think Torkelson and Greene are clearly better hitting prospects than Maybin was, but Maybin was an athletic CF and, at least in terms of rankings, is probably the only position guy we've had on par with those two this century.
     
  39. Constant

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  40. DeToxRox

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    1. Duh
    2. Good to hear anyway
     
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  41. hoss2183

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    Back up the Brink’s truck.

    He’s had a massive year. He’s so good when healthy. Do it cheap asses
     
  42. MG2

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    I would like for us to sign Correa, but I would laugh very hard at the if he ends up with the Yankees after them being butthurt about trash cans for 4 years.
     
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  43. DetroitNole

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    Ending season hot

     
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  44. DetroitNole

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    Our #Kansas City Royals fans should enjoy this too. Anthony Volpe was the MLB pipeline minor league hitting prospect of the year.

    2019 HS kid who hit .294/.423/.604 27 HR 86 RBI but did so split between low a and high a

    His peers, HS kids in the same draft class, put up these numbers two classes higher than him (aa/aaa)

    Witt .293/.363/.584 33 HR 96 RBI
    Greene .303/.387/.537 24 HR 84 RBI

    Surprised they gave the nod to a guy two full levels below... but he is a Yankee so not too shocked I guess
     
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  45. Andy Reocho

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    Makes zero sense. Royals have two hitters that were better than him at higher levels. I just hope it all continues into next year!
     
  46. DirtBall

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    :cough: THREE hitters
     
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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    Proof why MLB pipeline sucks. Greene was clearly better play this year.

     
  48. DetroitNole

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    If it is just "hitting" Tork actually has a slightly higher ops. But position difference and fact Greene spent more time in higher leagues and everything else I think Greene had a better year.