Detroit Tigers Thread: Diamonds And Rust

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  1. DeToxRox

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    I am not sure why we would have Hinch get breakfast with the guy if we weren’t willing to meet his price.
     
  2. MG2

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    Hinch/Correa have a history dating back to 2015. I don't think it's crazy that they'd meet up in a town they both live in for lunch one day, whether we're at the top of the market for him or just one of the teams that checked in.

    Obviously, I'd love for us to be the team at the top of the market for him. Just saying Passan's wording on Correa/Verlander earlier this week was essentially "I don't see that, unless I'm getting lied to," and then he said he could see us getting Story (likely a much cheaper option). Add Heyman's report today to it, and it suggests to me that the signals we're sending right now are that we're not planning on offering Lindor $$ (or close to it) to sign Correa. And it's very possible we won't have to. But I would be pretty surprised to see Correa sign anywhere before the lockout for less than Lindor $$.
     
  3. DeToxRox

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    IMO Hinch is far too intelligent to have a meal in public with Correa if we aren’t a serious suitor. Friends or not, he knows what’s going on in this market.
     
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  4. MG2

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    I think the Tigers view themselves as a serious suitor. I think the Tigers want Correa. That doesn't mean they're willing to offer what it's going to take to get him if it becomes a really competitive market that gets into the $300M+ range at 10+ years, or that they're willing to wait out the market to see what his ultimate price tag is going to be. I think people are getting ahead of themselves if they're just taking that stuff for granted. That's an enormous commitment, and Avila/Ilitch have been burned as badly as any org in the league by those kinds of commitments over the last 5-10 years when they go bad.

    I have no clue what they're thinking as far as this market. Maybe they are all the way in and will be the highest bidder in the end. Just saying it's okay to want Correa, but have a limit on how high you're willing to go. That wouldn't surprise me or make me mad if that was the case.
     
  5. smeegsgreen

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    Is there a possibility Correa takes a 5 year deal at 200M v 10 at 300M?
     
  6. MG2

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    No one ever does, but at some point I would think someone will.

    The way a lot of the contracts go now, even if he gets 10/$300M he'll still get an opt out after (or before) year 5. That seems to be the preferred model for players/agents.
     
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  7. DeToxRox

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    If following recruiting has taught me anything, it’s that this is over. When’s the presser?
     
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  8. Constant

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    Heard his wife was driving around with a realtor.
     
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  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    he’s a bitch. Who cares what he has to say.
     
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  10. ~ taylor ~

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    I wonder if any of the SS free agents have pushed their agents to get their deal done before the inevitable lockout so they don't have to worry about it for 3 months while waiting for the lockout to resolve. And I wonder what the players association is recommending.
     
  11. DeToxRox

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    Clearly we are signing Correa today. Sorry Jeff Pasan and your burner account MG2
     
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  12. DetroitNole

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    I think today is the deadline on rule 5. Clemens needed to be protected to avoid being open to rule 5 and you leave a spot open to have option to pick someone
     
  13. DeToxRox

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    yup
     
  14. MG2

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    It's irrelevant because they have room and they can move him in or out going forward, but Kody Clemens being on the 40 man is kind of funny. He's not good.
     
  15. spartanchuck

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    Are they going to mess this Correa thing up?
     
  16. Lip

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    Depends if they do what MG2 says they have to do.
     
  17. DeToxRox

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    If we pay Baez 20-25 mil a year 6-8 years is that more fiscally responsible than spending 30 mil for 8-10 years on Correa?
     
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    Tony is on a heater right now
     
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  20. MG2

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    If we pay Baez $20-25M a year for 1 year I'd be mad. I hate Baez with a passion.
     
  21. DeToxRox

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    I mean if we sign him, he’s getting a nine figure deal, right?
     
  22. Vinegar Strokes

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    Tony Paul is a bitch.
     
  23. MG2

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    He might take a 1-year deal for $25M+ somewhere, or he might get $150M+ from someone. He's probably the most all over the place "eye of the beholder" guy in the league.

    What it would take to get him in Detroit, I have no clue. But that's also part of the problem there with him because I don't think he views himself as a "small/mid-market guy".
     
  24. DeToxRox

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  25. Constant

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    Is AJ a TMB Buckeye?
     
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  27. Vinegar Strokes

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    If JP is reporting it, it’s gotta be the Tigers.
     
  28. smeegsgreen

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    No way we go with 3 lefties lol
     
  29. Vinegar Strokes

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    im not a matz fan. Too injury prone. Rather role with Alexander, and spend the cash on someone like Chris Taylor.
     
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  30. Brocktoon

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    Manning and Alexander take up one spot in the rotation at best. If they sign Matz, Manning will be 5th with Alexander in the long relief/spot starter role
     
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  31. smeegsgreen

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    Mize
    Skubal
    E Rod
    Manning
    Alexander
     
  32. Vinegar Strokes

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    that’s not a winning rotation. They need to sign another starter.
     
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  33. smeegsgreen

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    Go sign Stroman then. Matz sucks
     
  34. Vinegar Strokes

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    or trade for Sonny Gray.
     
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  35. MG2

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    The Dodgers just signed Beau Burrows. Somehow they'll turn him into something better than a trash can.
     
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  36. MG2

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    Matz is basically a poor man's ERod. He looks good for 4-5 starts and you think he's finally figuring it out, and then he gets shelled a couple times and you're right back where you started. He was really good in the second half last year, but I'm not sure what that really means because his numbers don't really support any theory for why it happened other than "people stopped hitting him as hard."

    2 years for Matz is fine. We have no pitching depth and he's got talent. I don't think signing him would be a Pelfrey situation, at least.
     
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    a package starting with Kriedler and Manning would put them in running for one of the potentially available frontline starters. Would guess Avila thinks Manning is untouchable though
     
  39. DeToxRox

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  41. Vinegar Strokes

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    Fucking Avila. Screwed up Correa.
     
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    Looks like it’s gonna happen. Lame.
     
  43. Vinegar Strokes

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    Fuck you Chris. Fucking cheap ass.
     
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  44. ~ taylor ~

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    He fits the offensive profile the Tigers like.
     
  45. Vinegar Strokes

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    He doesn’t walk?
     
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  46. ~ taylor ~

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    And strikes out more than once a game.
     
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  47. MG2

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    Between yesterday, this news and tomorrow's impending shit show, this is turning out to be quite the kick in the balls holiday weekend.
     
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  48. DetroitNole

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    Obviously would have preferred Correa but this is still a huge upgrade at ss