Detroit Tigers Thread: Cardiac Cats 2.0 (TTF)

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  1. DetroitNole

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    I'd guess sign a couple veterans who may slide a few days without offers to one year prove me deals kind of like we did with Schoop and Cron last year. Dont expect any splashes
     
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  2. Vinegar Strokes

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    Par for the course for Avila.
     
  3. DetroitNole

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  4. MG2

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    If we're interested in spending, seems like we would be getting mentioned now as being in on guys like Springer. We wouldn't be a preferred destination, and agents would be putting us out there as a threat to try to drive up the market. The fact that isn't happening leads me to believe we'll be doing the one-year thing again.

    If we're spending any money, I hope it isn't on pitching because that market actually seems decent for players getting short deals and we have some options the current team. We have zero outfielders and need at least one middle infielder (or a corner bat, if they want to try a Castro/Paredes pairing at 2b/SS that would probably be disastrous but YOLO).
     
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  5. Brocktoon

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    Might as well continue the tradition of taking Twins cast offs. He will probably only get around $9 million in arbitration
     
  6. MG2

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    We could do a lot worse. He also fits Avila's profile of hitters who don't walk. He's got a lot of pop and doesn't strike out much, but his career OBP is .310.
     
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  7. Vinegar Strokes

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    He’s an MLB player, and would be our best OF. They need to sign somebody like him or Pederson.
     
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  8. Vinegar Strokes

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    Not surprising here, but would not be shocked to see Fulmer non tendered

     
  9. ~ taylor ~

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    I think you tender Fulmer in the off chance that he regains something and can be traded for anything. We have plenty of money and we're not bursting at the seems with folks who demand a spot on the 40 man.
     
  10. Vinegar Strokes

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    You gotta figure that Turnbull, Boyd, Skubal, Mize all make the rotation out of camp. Tigers usually sign some shitty FA to a one year deal. That makes 5. They have a couple guys knocking on the door in the minors for when one of the above get injured.

    If you think Fulmer starts the season in AAA, then he’s defintley not worthy of the $3-4mil he gets in arbitration.

    Fulmer hasn’t been good in 3+ years. He was pretty bad the year he got hurt.
     
  11. Brocktoon

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    Figure Mize/Skubal/Fulmer/Norris really only make up 2 rotation spots. Letting Fulmer open with Skubal in a similar role to Norris wouldn't be a bad way to start the season with the goal of Skubal stretching out to become a starter later on in the season.
     
  12. DetroitNole

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    Saw an article on Freep or mlive earlier this week suggesting we were going to tender everyone
     
  13. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yep. Only guy really in question would be Fulmer.
     
  14. DetroitNole

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    Baseball America ranks Skubal over Mize now

    Here is Baseball America's top 10 list, with the players' 2020 midseason rankings in parenthesis to show their movement:

    1. 1B/3B Spencer Torkelson (1)

    2. LHP Tarik Skubal (4)

    3. RHP Casey Mize (2)

    4. RHP Matt Manning (3)

    5. OF Riley Greene (5)

    6. 3B Isaac Paredes (7)

    7. C Dillon Dingler (6)

    8. OF Daz Cameron (10)

    9. OF Daniel Cabrera (9)

    10. RHP Alex Faedo (8)
     
  15. MG2

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    Not sure if that's a BA overall list and Emily Waldon just writes it up, or if she makes the list on her own.

    Either way, I'd bet good money that four years from now Riley Greene won't be the 5th-best player on this list. I don't think there's a Tiger prospect I can recall being more excited about than him in my lifetime. Even Verlander at the time had such a rapid ascent that I don't remember there being excitement on this level for him (at least from the younger version of me).
     
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  16. DeToxRox

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    Yeah Greene is my #1 guy. Seems like he has legitimate superstar potential.
     
  17. DetroitNole

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    I remember being crazy excited about Maybin. And I was a kid but I remember Kapler got crazy hype
     
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  18. Tug

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    I thought Gabe Kepler, Juan Encarnacion, and Justin Thompson were a World Series core
     
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  19. Vinegar Strokes

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    Riley Greene > Mike Trout
     
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  20. Brocktoon

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    According to Fangraphs, the highest rated position prospect available in the Rule 5 Draft is Wenceel Perez
     
  21. DeToxRox

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  22. Vinegar Strokes

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  23. MG2

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    I'm assuming this was to open up a spot for the Rule 5 draft on Thursday.

    Castro would not have been my choice to DFA to make room, but he's not good enough to start and pretty much every attempt to bring him out of the pen has been a disaster so I get it.
     
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  24. smeegsgreen

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    Great another Rony Garcia!!
     
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  25. smeegsgreen

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    Who would you have selected and who else prior to Castro?

    Strokes (my pick)
    Demeritte
    Haase
    Funkhouser
    Other

    also, do we not plan on signing any FAs?
     
  26. MG2

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    Haase
    Greiner
    H. Castro
    Short
    Alcantara

    I'm not sure Castro is better than any of those guys, but going into a season where every team's pitching depth is going to be tested like no recent season I would have kept the arm over a bunch of position players we have three different clones of.
     
  27. MG2

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    We got a free pick right after the first round because we're cheap and make no money during the rebuild, so that's fun...

    Here is the order for the first and second rounds. The Astros were stripped of their first and second round picks as part of the punishment for their sign-stealing scandal.

    1. Pittsburgh Pirates
    2. Texas Rangers
    3. Detroit Tigers
    4. Boston Red Sox
    5. Baltimore Orioles
    6. Arizona Diamondbacks
    7. Kansas City Royals
    8. Colorado Rockies
    9. Los Angeles Angels
    10. New York Mets
    11. Washington Nationals
    12. Seattle Mariners
    13. Philadelphia Phillies
    14. San Francisco Giants
    15. Milwaukee Brewers
    16. Miami Marlins
    17. Cincinnati Reds
    18. St. Louis Cardinals
    19. Toronto Blue Jays
    20. New York Yankees
    21. Chicago Cubs
    22. Chicago White Sox
    23. Cleveland Indians
    24. Atlanta Braves
    25. Oakland Athletics
    26. Minnesota Twins
    27. San Diego Padres
    28. Tampa Bay Rays
    29. Los Angeles Dodgers
    Compensation pick order:

    First supplemental round (in between first and second rounds)
    Marlins
    Tigers
    Brewers
    Rays
    Reds
    Twins
     
  28. Celemo

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    So are we taking that prep SS Lawlar at #3
     
  29. Vinegar Strokes

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    Fuck yeah. Way to go Avila
     
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  30. Vinegar Strokes

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    no
     
  31. MG2

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    No clue. Just hoping there's some semblance of a season for them to evaluate from.
     
  32. smeegsgreen

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    Avila’s comp is Big Head from Silicon Valley
     
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  33. Celemo

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    haven't followed baseball as much the last couple years. I'm assuming Rocker goes 1, maybe Leiter falls to us
     
  34. Vinegar Strokes

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    I think we go college bat. Jud Fabian or Matt McClain
     
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  35. ~ taylor ~

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    So picks 3, 31 and 38. This team is going to be humming in 2025.
     
  36. DetroitNole

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    Yea a college bat puts that player in line to reach majors with the rest of their prospects. Wouldnt shock me if thats the route they went
     
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  37. Vinegar Strokes

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    Sucks seeing all these teams in our division, make these moves to improve their teams. These are the types of contracts we should be signing guys too.
     
  38. DeToxRox

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  39. Vinegar Strokes

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    Hell yeah. Jose Cruz.
     
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  40. MG2

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  41. MG2

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    Erie made the cut and gets to stay a AA affiliate. West Michigan and Lakeland flip A-ball levels. The advanced short season gone in Connecticut is gone.
     
  42. Vinegar Strokes

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  43. MG2

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    Glad Erie didn't lose the team after putting in $15M to improve the facilities there. That would have sucked for that market.
     
  44. Vinegar Strokes

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    Lansing Lugnuts are affiliated with Oakland now.

     
  45. ~ taylor ~

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    Jose Cruz, Jr. would be a better fielding and hitting LF than Christian Stewart right now.
     
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  46. DeToxRox

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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    Hell yeah. Avila is killing it this off season.
     
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