Detroit Tigers Thread: Welp

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  1. MG2

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  2. Lip

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    That seems super reasonable
     
  3. DetroitNole

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    He's a LA sportscaster
     
  4. Vinegar Strokes

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    Thought that was a troll account when I read that earlier. What’s a realistic return from dodgers?
     
  5. DetroitNole

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    He's got 13k followers, looks like an LA version of someone like Ryan Ermanni. He's at the meetings if you look at his account, he interviewed Pujols there. But I have a hard time believing if something is close hed be the only one reporting on it

    Sounds like Emmet Sheehan is a guy we really like (and obviously more)
     
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  6. MG2

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    If we're trading Skubal, I think the Dodgers are probably our best hope because of their depth. These are two fake trades Jim Bowden has made over the last month from LA.

    Los Angeles Dodgers
    Potential trade return: RHP Emmet Sheehan, LHP Justin Wrobleski, LHP Jackson Ferris and OF Zyhir Hope

    The Tigers trade Tarik Skubal to the Dodgers for starting pitchers Tyler Glasnow and Emmet Sheehan and outfielder Zyhir Hope

    My current thought process is that I would be surprised if any team offered as much as that second offer, but I am hopeful that we wouldn't trade him for less than that.
     
  7. DetroitNole

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    Glasnow is making 30 mil the next two seasons, I'm hesitant to think we talk on that salary
     
  8. MG2

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    Petzold has something today with 5 fake Skubal trades. This should work for people who don't subscribe...

    https://archive.ph/Gr8nV
     
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  9. Manny

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    Fuck all that. And fuck Pizza Boy.
     
  10. DetroitNole

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    Not getting any of the Dodgers top 3 prospects would be a pretty shitty trade
     
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  11. Celemo

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    haven't their prospects been kinda overrated/suck the last 4-5 years?
     
  12. DetroitNole

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    Feel like their prospects are always overhyped. I would not do that Petzold trade in the article above
     
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  13. hoss2183

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    Ask for Sheehan and Glasnow. We already have plenty of prospects.
     
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  14. Vinegar Strokes

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    Why do we want Glasgow. I guess in a way feels like us getting back Goff in Stafford trade who everyone hated at the time, so maybe it works out the same
     
  15. hoss2183

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    Glasnow is awesome for 115 innings per year. I don’t want him all that much (especially if he’s the only established guy coming back). I just don’t want 3 prospects that we won’t see for 1-3 years. The central division sucks. We can win now and still lengthen the contending window for years to come with what we have in the pipeline
     
  16. DetroitNole

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    I think Glasnow, Sheehan and Hope is a realistic and relatively fair offer. Two SP who can come in and help right away. They have Yamamoto, Sasaki, Snell, Ohtani and would add Skubal so they can part with those two easily. And Hope is a good prospect, and they save their best hitting one, but we still get a top 20 overall prospect who matches a lot of our other prospects timeline.
     
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  17. 20/20/20/20

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    I like Sheehan.
     
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  18. Manny

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    I like back to back Cy Young winners in their prime. Hot take.
     
  19. DetroitNole

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    I think this whole discussion has the backdrop of we all know this team isn't paying Skubal what he is going to make next offseason
     
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  20. DeToxRox

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    I think there are probably two teams that can sign Skubal if we are being honest. It sucks our owner is awful but this would be happening with every team but the Mets and Dodgers I imagine.
     
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  21. Manny

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    I know, I'm sorry. I'm grieving.
     
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    I think it’s sad as fuck that we won’t pay a 2-time Cy Young his market, but I’m also aware what him hiring Scott Boras rather than anyone else means. I also think it is a major problem that the Dodgers can have whatever obscene payroll and penalties they’re willing to support. The system is absolutely fucked.
     
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  23. Manny

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    The deferred money shit is broken af
     
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  24. MG2

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    I want to keep Skubal very badly. He's my favorite Tiger since Verlander both because he's awesome and because the options are extremely limited.

    I also think there's a pretty reasonable case that giving Skubal 10/$400M or whatever that deal is ultimately going to be is a bad idea for anyone.

    Both things can be true. There are scenarios where we're better both short and long term if we moved him in the right deal. I'm very skeptical that deal exists in this era of MLB, and I'm trying not to think to hard about it because I am hoping that the only way he gets moved is in a deal we would have to say yes to.
     
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    For sure paying a pitcher $400m into his late 30s is a bad idea, but I’m in.
     
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    Also, we shouldn’t be looking for a fair deal. We should be looking for an absolute monster. Dodgers want Tarik? Give us everything.
     
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  27. Celemo

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    this is where I'm at but the one year of control is gonna scare a lot of suitors off. Was hoping a team like Toronto who was thiiiiis close to a WS would want/deal for Tarik to put them over the top
     
  28. DetroitNole

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    The worst part of it to me is even if we keep him, I don't trust we go all in this year because we're cheap. So we're in this awful middle where we won't maximize our year with him even if we kept him.

    If you arent going to pay him, at least spend money this year and go for it. Its almost a waste to keep him if we arent going to do that
     
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  29. Brocktoon

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    seems like Freeland would almost guaranteed to be in any return package
     
  30. 20/20/20/20

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    Maybe the Mets get desperate after losing a few players.
     
  31. MG2

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    Maybe, but I kind of think that would work against us because LAD probably has more of a need for him than the young OFs in the minors and we'd probably get less overall if he was in it. They played Betts at SS all last season and I'm not sure how sustainable that is long term with him at age 33 and having a down year offensively trying to do it.
     
  32. DeToxRox

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    If I’m Scott Harris this is the time to push through whatever shitty Skubal trade he makes.
     
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  33. DetroitNole

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    Late buzz seems to be the Dodgers stuff is bogus. So who knows
     
  34. Vinegar Strokes

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    Apparently Petzold was on Detroit radio today and said Scott Harris is too scared to make a move, so he doesn’t expect anything to happen.
     
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  37. Vinegar Strokes

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    How bout you do something of note Harris. You’re bringing the same dog shit team back that blew a 15 game division lead.

    guy is too scared to make a significant move, and is batting .200 on free agent signings since he’s been here.

    Time to move on.
     
  38. Lip

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    if it’s the same team I will be very mad but I don’t think that’s likely
     
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  41. Vinegar Strokes

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    Hopefully works out better than the last 40 year old we signed (Cobb)
     
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  42. DetroitNole

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    I'll take him for sure, but its another risk averse move being made by our gm. Old guy on short deal.
     
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  43. MG2

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    Old guy who throws only cutters brought in to replace the old guy who threw only change ups. Hopefully this works better than the previous.
     
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  44. Lip

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    he had a better year last year than I expected
     
  45. MG2

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    His traditional stats were fine. His underlying numbers (exit velocity, hard hit%) were troubling. He's an extreme fly ball pitcher (like 80% of balls in play are fly balls) who is giving up harder contact every year. His average exit velo allowed has gone up six straight years. Even if he repeats last year, his ERA would probably still be about a run worse. And that's not the end of the world as long as you're not signing him and making him your closer no matter what. Kind of feels like that's what he probably wants, though.

    On a positive note, he would give a very different look in the pen compared to a lot of our relievers, which felt like a problem last year where it seemed like all our RHPs for a bit were fastball/change-up guys.
     
  46. Lip

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    One year deal with a club option for a second year
     
  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    Another bullpen guy with no swing and miss. Team isn't serious at all. He will be DFA'd by July.
     
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  48. MG2

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    Completely forgot about this last year.



     
  49. Vinegar Strokes

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  50. Vinegar Strokes

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    Harris was rumored to be going after this bum. Probably too young