Detroit Tigers Thread: Cardiac Cats 2.0 (TTF)

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  1. Vinegar Strokes

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    Avila just said that OF from Braves was highly touted.
     
  2. jrmy

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    Maybe 4 years ago when he was still a Rangers prospect
     
  3. Vinegar Strokes

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    Avila reading MLB pipeline rankings for these guys on the air. You can’t make this shit up.
     
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  4. Vinegar Strokes

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    Our GM is a dumbass bro.
     
  5. MG2

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    I'm curious to see what Greene does. I always thought his best role was a late inning guy who could get you more than 3 outs, but he hasn't done that at all this year. He's inconsistent and HR prone, but the stuff was always good enough to be a legit late inning guy like he's been this year. Not sure I feel great if he's your 9th inning guy, but I think he's solid as part of an ensemble.
     
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    I actually like Demeritte and he’s had a really good AAA season. He could maybe be a decent corner OF for you guys.
     
  7. MG2

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    The worst part about this is you could be completely making this up and I would believe it because that's exactly something he would do.
     
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  8. jrmy

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    Josh Tomlin got a save for us today in extras after our regular closer blew his league leading 8th save (I think, lost count) so anything is an upgrade
     
  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    He also referenced where every guy was drafted, to make it sound better.
     
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  10. SC

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    I think the Braves might feel similarly on the ensemble part. Probably not a coincidence that all 3 relievers they added (Greene, Melancon, Martin) have varying degrees of closing experience.
     
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  12. MG2

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    Dominated the Angels and clearly just needed to get those bums off the roster
     
  13. Vinegar Strokes

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    I like Rogers. All we need for him is to hit like .235 with a .700 OPS. If we get that with his pitch framing, and defense, that’s. Solid player.
     
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  14. smeegsgreen

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    Who’s going to be called up to replace the bums named Nick and Shane?
     
  15. Vinegar Strokes

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    That shitty OF we got from the Braves, and Turnbull.
     
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  16. MG2

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    I can't watch that stuff. He's too awkward.
     
  17. MG2

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    If he hits .235, I think the OPS will be higher than .700 because he has some pop and is willing to take walks. Honestly, the question with him is whether he'll hit .200.
     
  18. Vinegar Strokes

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    Do you guys think we trade Boyd in the off-season?
     
  19. MG2

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    They need to be open to it if he has a big finish this season. If he falls back to previous levels, it doesn't really matter.

    I don't see it happening, though. That kind of deal takes a creative GM willing to think outside the box, and a trade partner willing to pay what it takes to acquire someone with that kind of value without the traditional high level/ace stuff. I know the former doesn't currently exist in Detroit, and I'm skeptical on the latter after the way the market has gone the last 2-3 years.
     
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  20. nofatchildren - cissp

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    I think the best case scenario is that we hang onto him and he repeats his success again next year. It seems like right now maybe teams don't really believe in Boyd. If he had a longer track record of success, and was sitting there with a 6:1 K/BB he'd have fetched a pretty nice return, but I just don't think teams are believers yet.

    The other side of the coin is that those teams might be right, he doesn't have repeat success next year, and he'd fetch even less moving forward than he would have this off-season.
     
  21. MG2

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    To put it another way, when it comes to pitchers like Boyd who don't have elite stuff, I think teams are much more interested in trying to find the next Matt Boyd on the cheap than they are in paying for actual Matt Boyd and what he's become (again, assuming he doesn't tank the next two months, which I probably shouldn't).
     
  22. Brocktoon

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    so no real discernable difference between the haul for Greene and Castellanos from the one last year for Martin and Fiers
     
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    We picked the wrong era to be sellers with a moron GM.
     
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  24. MG2

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    BTW, I think I did fairly well here. Castellanos went to CHC for Lange, and Greene went to ATL for a similar package to that. I'm calling it a win.
     
  25. Brocktoon

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    So what's next year's lineup looking like?

    C -Rogers
    1st - Dixon/Candelario
    2nd - Castro/FA
    3rd - Candelario/Lugo
    SS - Goodrum/Wili Castro
    LF - Stewart
    CF - Jones
    RF - FA/Demeriite
    DH - Miggy
    Util - Goodrum/Demeritte

    SP - Boyd
    SP - Norris
    SP - Turnbull
    SP - Fulmer/FA
    SP - FA/Burrows/eventually Mize

    Closer - FA?
    Setup - Fat Joe
     
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  26. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yikes
     
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  27. smeegsgreen

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    Skubal’s line last name made my head hurt:

    4.2 IP 3H 0R 6BB 10K
     
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  29. Vinegar Strokes

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    Fenech shitting all over Tigers on 97.1
     
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  30. smeegsgreen

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    He’ll be fired soon
     
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  31. MG2

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    A month ago he wrote extending Avila was the right move. I'm guessing this is him trying to look tough after Jeff Moss and others torched him again after he wrote that.
     
  32. Vinegar Strokes

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    He must have read my emails calling him a little bitch.
     
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  33. Brocktoon

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    saw that Avila is looking to trade pitching prospects for positional prospects. Always wondered why teams never do this. Especially when they have a prospect that's blocked by a young major leaguer.
     
  34. MG2

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    They don't do it because organizations are just like fans and aren't good at honestly evaluating their own players. Even if everyone else views two prospects from two different organizations to be essentially the same, both organizations are likely to overvalue their own player.
     
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    Mostly because teams generally have GMs that know how to properly build organizational depth
     
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  36. Brocktoon

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    Clint Frazier seems like a good example of this. I know they figured they could trade him for major league talent. But if they would have flipped him for a couple minor league arms last year, they may have been much better off

    I read an article on the new trade deadline rules and apparently players not on the 40 man roster can still be swapped.

    It talked about a contending team potentially trading for a prospect that could step in help down the stretch. i.e. swapping a solid pitching prospect that's basically ready for a higher ceiling prospect that's still a few years away.
     
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  37. Vinegar Strokes

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  38. smeegsgreen

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    Fenech can get fucked but I agree on sweep.
     
  39. MG2

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    This is really embarrassing on his part.
     
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  40. Vinegar Strokes

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    Why? At least someone has the balls in the media to speak up
     
  41. Vinegar Strokes

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  42. smeegsgreen

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    That guy is a hack stop spamming his shit on here
     
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  43. MG2

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  44. Vinegar Strokes

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    What do you have against Jules bro?
     
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  45. Vinegar Strokes

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  46. MG2

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    And I would be a fairly decent sum of money that he's trashing the team now because Jeff Moss and others ripped him for writing that story, especially after the Tigers sent him to their fantasy camp this winter.

    And on top of that, his tweet didn't even make sense. Demeritte was the second piece in a deadline trade, and they're somehow not supposed to take him because they didn't select him in the Rule 5 draft? That's really stupid, on top of his "best reliever traded" comment is somehow suggesting that other relievers went for huge returns (they didn't). He's trying to get on the good side of a bunch of really angry fans by trashing an organization that everyone who follows him wants to be trashed. It's not some kind of bravery on his part. It's a wrestling heel trying for cheap heat by saying "your city and its sports teams are stupid" because it gets him the desired reaction.
     
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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    I don’t think he cares about Jeff moss. That guy has been attacking him for years. He lost his twitter following and only has 2k followers now.