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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by dtx, Nov 30, 2020.
BYU and Cincy should figure out a way to play. Solid chance the winner makes the Playoff this year.
We don't deserve it based on four games but we're one of the four best teams. Sure a team like Cincinnati or A&M would be more deserving but they'd get killed by the big boys and there'd be bitching about the games sucking.
STOP THE COUNT
Lot of scared Bama fans voting no ftr
We're playing them 12/12. You're correct; they have Auburn this weekend, Ole Miss next, and Tennessee 12/19.
it seems every year or two we get a heated best resume vs best perceived team argument
its just this year it's extra dumb because of missed games, games with tons of players out, etc
should have expanded the field
They have three games in three weeks, assuming none are canceled...
I've seen what happens to A&M vs elite competition. They shouldn't even be in the conversation.
I don't think they've put anything out there with their existing games that puts them head and shoulders above Florida or A&M. So, they have a final possession win against an Indiana team and ? When you add the lack of impressive victories with the competitive advantage over teams with better resumes, I'd exclude them. I fully expect the opposite to happen for previously stated reasons.
if you don’t think they belong with the added two games that’s fine. If those two games gets them in to you, than I disagree. I believe they belong to be in with or without those two games. BTW I am not saying you personally I just mean in general.
It’s interesting because it usually becomes a debate of Resume vs. Eye Test. But since Ohio State hasn’t had much of a chance to pass the Eye Test...and honestly didn’t much live up to it when they did...it becomes a debate of Resume vs. Program Pedigree.
People simply think Ohio State should be very good. And they’re probably correct in that assumption, but we’ll never know for sure.
I have no idea what that means.
Do you consider Florida to be ‘elite’ this season?
They playing the week of the SEC CG? Even with that additional data point over an unranked team, why would the committee create a re-match for A&M against a team they lost to by 4 TD?
Then why do people want to keep expanding the CFP if Bama, Clemson, and Ohio State are the only elite teams on a yearly basis?
Florida and Clemson win the SEC/ACC in last second thrillers which effectively shuts out both OSU and A&M
Everybody wins imo
because it would provide enjoyable, competitive games between major programs that we don't get enough of in CFP? And the point of life/sports is to be entertained?
The argument in favor of playoff purity in CFB is just bizarre.
You're no longer welcome in our team thread
Yes. 12/19 is being used as a makeup week for postponed SEC games. Meaningless as the games may be, the conference is trying to make up every game.
As to the second question, why would the committee allow a team who played four games leapfrog teams who played 9 or 10?
So...it doesn't matter how many games they play, who the games are against, or how they look? I don't doubt the playoff committee will have the same take.
Not that I agree with it, but I think it will play out this way...
1. Bama, after beating UF
2. Clemson, after winning by 10 or so over ND
3. ND, with the Rubber Match opportunity
4. Ohio State, after finding a way to get 6 games in with some late season blowouts
The CFP Committee doesn’t generally go outside the box. The possibility of it happening given the Ohio State scenario is there, but I’d be surprised if they actually did it.
FWIW, I think A&M is going to lose again.
I’m expecting a USC loss and an A&M loss in the situation I posted above. I just don’t see the Committee going outside the P5.
I think the committee will do everything within reason to keep ND & Clemson from seeing each other in the semis
I disagree. I think as long as the next one is somewhat competitive, they’re going to really push the Rubber Match narrative.
It has nothing to do with purity, I’m just a huge proponent of keeping it at 4 teams. Does anyone really enjoy watching Oklahoma get trounced in the CFP every year? Because with expansion, you’re going to get much more of that, and it seems like we’re all in agreement that there are usually less than 4 elite teams already in a given season. Has there even been a playoff yet where there would be a consensus agreement that 4 elite teams made it in?
14 - FSU not elite, Bama questionable
15 - Michigan State and Oklahoma not elite
16 - Washington not elite
17 - probably the closest to all 4 teams being elite
18 - Notre Dame and Oklahoma not elite
19 - Oklahoma not elite
Disagree. Bama/ND and Clemson/OSU would generate more viewership too.
literally none of those things are arguments I’ve made so I guess if you’re going to start making up my argument we are done.
How can you possibly justify Ohio State taking the 3 seed though? It’s already somewhat of a stretch including them in the first place.
Your scenario would reek of rankings manipulation for the sake of better TV ratings. Though I’m not sure the CFP Committee is actually above that...
They would still get another game the weekend of the championship. So wouldn’t it be 5-0?
Was he ever “welcome” though?
If no more games are played, no they should not be in. Best chance is to get at LEAST two more games in and that looks unlikely right now.
fact: watching OSU play Florida would be fun. Watching Bama play the best mid-major would be fun. The lesser bowls are already meaningless.
I don't care if it results in a blowout here and there.
Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant by this.
Can you explain it?
This year, more than ever, is all about the money. I also don’t think they want ND and Clemson essentially playing a back-to-back, and I assume the they’ll tailor their rankings as such. But the committee will do what they want as we’re well aware. Going to be the most anticipated selection show for sure.
I don't think there would be much outrage if ND were to fall to #4
And certainly far less than Ohio State potentially being included at all (should they finish with only 4/5 games played)
It's going to be awesome if ND and Clemson end up playing each other 3 times in a shortened season.
Yeah I guess it depends on the Clemson margin of victory. If it’s very close, I don’t see ND falling too much. If it’s 14 or so, I could see us at 4. If it’s 17+, we have bigger things to worry about.
not nearly as awesome as ND taking both matchups with Clemson leading to dmx Kyle jac certain posters shamefully leaving the board forever
I’m answering the thread question. I believe they are one of the best four teams in the nation. Maybe I’m incorrect. But, for the sake of this thread I don’t think MSU and UM would change my opinion obviously that assumes they win both games. So if they lose either game how they look would matter. If they could schedule and beat Cincy and BYU or Wisconsin and Iowa then who they played would matter. So yes who they played and how they looked would matter. My whole point is just with MSU and UM not changing my opinion. I never said nothing would change my opinion or that nothing matters. So again the thread question is “does a 4 win OSU belong in the playoffs” if you answer no but a 6 win one with wins over MSU and UM would than I disagree. Wins over those two don’t change my opinion about OSU.
Is dumptime elite?
lol... I don't need to see OSU curb stomp a MSU or Michigan to know they are one of the 4 best teams in the country. They would destroy both those more deserving teams you listed. I don't see Clemson losing twice.
I knew skipping Illinois would haunt them
I don’t think UGA should be one of the final 4, but it’s interesting that they’re in the conversation due to the emergence of Jesus Theodore Daniels.