Does manliness exist, and has it changed?

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Kent Pavelka, Feb 1, 2023.

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What characteristics define "manliness" to you?

  1. Penis

  2. Physical strength

  3. Assertiveness

  4. Aggressiveness

  5. Kindness

  6. Heterosexuality

  7. Homosexuality

  8. Testosterone

  9. Bravery

  10. Chivalry

  11. Open-mindedness

  12. Compassion

  13. Humility

  14. Honesty

  15. Ambition

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  1. Kent Pavelka

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    Or are the common characteristics of traditional "manliness" now considered toxic?

    Has the definition of "a real man" changed?

    I'm a 43-yo he/him libtard. I'm white and cis-gendered and have a traditional marriage and a kid. I did sports in school, but liked choir and theatre more. I have been known to write poems. I love watching football and duding out with dudes and making boner- and poop-related jokes. I'm not a weaksman but I'm not a muscle boi either. I exercise quite a bit but also eat pizza and Taco Bell an awful lot. I like playing with my daughter, basically whatever she wants to do.

    I see this Andrew Tate asshole and how he's influencing teenagers and I rage. Does a 'real man' exist anymore? Or is the goal just to be a 'good person'?
     
  2. Taques

    Taques sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
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    posting on this web sight for starters
     
  3. Handcuffed

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    i enjoyed listening to the Derek Thompson podcast on this from a couple of months ago

     
  4. Shiggityshwo

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    being secure enough in yourself to respect people who are different than you
     
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  5. poor paul

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    who is andrew tate and why do you care about his opinion?
     
  6. Larry Sura

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    Playing rugby is the number one sign of manliness according to studies. Research shows that the studies are correct.
     
  7. bro

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    go ask your manly neighbor after you blow him, hth
     
  8. Kent Pavelka

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    He's some influencer. I don't give a crud about his opinion. I just learned about him when he got arrested. But I've since learned he holds loads of influence over young people and it's a bad deal
     
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  9. blind dog

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    my massive dong makes me more manly than everyone else
     
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  10. jrmy

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    Being really invested in masculinity seems real gay tbh

    SUS
     
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  11. 20/20/20/20

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    This sounds like an admirable quality, but why is that a “manly” one? Wouldn’t feminine people be able to display this trait as well?

    Anyway, to the question, I don’t really care. This question is of little interest to me.
     
  12. Clown Baby

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    While I respect that you’re securing enough to have your facial hair permanently laser-removed, I’m also very much looking forward to your midlife crisis when you get beard hair plugs like Michael Jackson.
     
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  13. Shiggityshwo

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    yes
     
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  14. DaveGrohl

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    Andrew Tate branded himself as a pick-up artist turned influencer (read: try-hard turned rapist). His influence on teenage and twenty-something males can't be denied though. He's a terrible person whose message resonates with a lot of immature males that don't want to make the effort to work on themselves and instead blame society for their lack of success with women. I don't think the OP "cares" about his opinion as much as the fact that he has undeniably had an effect on younger people by re-introducing the unhealthy, aggressive version of masculinity back into the conversation. Hopefully, this is just a cringy fad of some edgelord, too-online teenagers that will grow out of it. But it's disheartening to see when progress towards a healthier, caring version of men has become accepted/the norm.
     
  15. Butthead

    Butthead narmas, narmas

    Penis
     
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  16. Baron

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  17. afb

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    I think the issue is that there was some previous idea of a "man"
     
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  18. DaveGrohl

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    Also I think wanting to define these hard black-and-white boundaries between masculinity and femininity contributes to the problem. Just take the Ron Swanson attitude when questioned: everything I do is masculine because I identify as a male.



    :50
     
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  19. UncleJesse

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  20. beist

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    Basically just lumberjacks.
     
  21. dump

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    Being a Swiftie
     
  22. jokewood

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    chest hair
     
  23. shivious

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    yeah that and a pair of testicles.
     
  24. Lyrtch

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    i've yet to see a good argument that traditional gender norms are anything but super destructive
     
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  25. poor paul

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    peak manliness is when we're rolling out to find america's greatest diners, drive-ins, and dives.
     
  26. ashy larry

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    owning triples of every classic car
     
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  27. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    True manliness is Jesus toting an AR15 as he drives his Jeep over the corpses of gunned down school children to cast his ballot for Trump
     
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  28. Truman

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    PENIS, no. PEN15 - yes
     
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  29. Shiggityshwo

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    sure why not
     
  30. ElectricDreamMachine

    ElectricDreamMachine he was on the colgate comedy hour
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    and not living in a hotel
     
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  31. Lyrtch

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    having a residence in a hotel like old timey celebs did seems great
     
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  32. $P1

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    Where are the buttons for:

    - "Will help you move and only slightly bitch about it"
    - "Can change a tire"
     
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  33. ElectricDreamMachine

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    itysl joke, mate
     
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  34. ashy larry

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    simultaneously being able to admit when you’re wrong and never being wrong
     
  35. Lyrtch

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    i really need to get around to watching that
     
  36. Taques

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    agreed
     
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  38. steamengine

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    Yes
     
  39. Jake Barnes

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    I think they mainly developed as by-products of the sexual division of labor that exploded in the prehistorical-early Neolithic revolution era of mankind. I think it’s a fair question at this point if technological advancements have rendered much of their utility moot, but it’s going to be a tough transition to overcome thousands of years of hard-baked social (and at this point probably genetic) coding in just a generation or two. These things take time.
     
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  40. Fecta23

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    This essentially means that "manliness" is stupid
     
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  41. Redav

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    It is
     
  42. Fecta23

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    I agree!
     
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  43. Redav

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    Yeah it always seemed like it had no real definition and people defined it however they wanted to, which makes it seem like it has no meaning at all
     
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  44. skiedfrillet

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    It’s not rly a question I’ve ever thought about. I feel like the concept of manliness is one of those things that people that don’t have great hair, bone structure, or natural physique worry about as a way to feel better about themselves
     
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  45. Handcuffed

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    feel the same way about books
     
  46. electronic

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    Masculinity and femininity as concepts just seem like ways to exclude people with zero corresponding benefit.

    Like, what’s even the point of defining it?
     
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  47. El Tiburon

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    I have a very hairy chest and always say “no homo” after blowing my friends. I’m as manly as it gets.
     
  48. theseasonisover

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  49. BuckeyeRiot

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    You had me at penis.
     
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  50. Bo Pelinis

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    People like certainty even if it’s completely destructive