Doesn’t sound like Bobby Bowden is doing so well

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  1. ~ taylor ~

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    I always thought Bowden's act was fake as shit and what he let slip at the end was only due to his inability to moderate his persona for public consumption.
     
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  2. Duval

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    No one said that.

    Like most things in life, it’s nuanced. Yeah, most of us fsu fans grew up watching him and his teams, so he was a part of our lives.

    most of us were wildly disappointed with his trump embrace in his twilight years, but that doesn’t negate all of the good stuff he did, either.

    I’m sad about it, but that doesn’t mean I loved how he acted later in life.
     
  3. Redav

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    Very
     
  4. electronic

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    What are all the good things he did? I’ve heard it said a lot, but haven’t heard the stuff he actually did.
     
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    Stuff ok!!!
     
  6. Saul Shabazz

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    I remember him buying lunches for a whole year at an elementary school 1 year....shit was early 80s I think.....I wanna say it was ruediger
     
  7. Saul Shabazz

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    Him and Jake Gaither were actually really positive peoples for this city in that era

    Personally choose to believe that it was a different mind than what he was post like 95 or some shit
     
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  8. War Grundle

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    Lots of charitable work, father figure to thousands of players and mentor to lots of coaches.
     
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    Not gaither....Rudy Hubbs and Ken riley

    Saul's drunk
     
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    Ken Riley :embarrassed:
     
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    In all seriousness this is good shit.
     
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  12. Daniel Ocean

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    If you back in read what I originally wrote you’d see that I attempted to make this about a certain ideology and not Bowden himself. NothingIsOT and War Grundle said it will be a sad day when he dies. I said it will be a good day when people that hold his type of beliefs are gone. I stand by that he is a conservative Christian republican most people that hold those core beliefs are assholes. It’s not a stretch to believe Bowden had been one for most of his life like others of his ilk.
     
  13. ~ taylor ~

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    He only became an asshole once he was done winning games for the school they root for. He wasn't a piece of shit until its convenient.
     
  14. Saul Shabazz

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    Nah it was 97
     
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  15. Duval

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    If that was the point you were trying to make, you were excessively clumsy with the delivery.

    Fabricating points that no one stated doesn’t help your argument either.
     
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  16. Daniel Ocean

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    I literally said I wasn’t making it about him but his ideology and kept making the point I was talking about his ideology. You guys kept bringing it back to him personally. Secondly what point did I fabricate?


     
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  18. Lawnole23

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    Not true we all disliked him when he coached FSU when he promoted Jeff and lost to Tommy on purpose.
     
  19. Duval

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    re-read your own words

    not a single soul said this.

    however, I’m willing to take the words from the numerous people he coached, over some jaded people on the Internet who think it’s weird to care about anything.
     
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  20. Daniel Ocean

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    I said you’re using the words of his family and former players as proof that he is a good person. You said no one did that and then literally do that. Here are replies doing exactly that. So again what did I fabricate?

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  21. Duval

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    You’re fucking dense as hell, and I don’t know how to walk you through your own words any more.

    I thought UCLA was supposed to be a good school.
     
  22. Daniel Ocean

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    Get fucked with this shit. I attempted to be civil with you. They are literally saying they’ll take his family and former players word that he is a good person. It’s literally what I said you guys did and you denied. I get that you have an emotional connection to this but fuck dude. And academic smack talk from an FSU fan/alumnus is fucking too much. Dude is a white Christian conservative Republican he has always been a POS knowing he had to exploit young men of color to become rich doesn’t change that.
     
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    ^
    Super mad and stupid is no way to go through life.
     
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  24. Lawnole23

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    How did he exploit them?
     
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  25. Daniel Ocean

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    college athletics is explosive by nature hence the recent changes to try and make it more equatable for the players. That’s not a specific knock at him just the dynamic as a whole.

    maybe don’t be a douche bag and explain how saying “I’ll take his former players words that he is a good person “ not using that as proof that he is good person?
     
  26. Duval

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    saying he did good things aint the same as saying he’s a good person.

    This is pretty rudimentary stuff. I wouldn’t make comments if you didn’t seem too dense to understand your own words.
     
  27. Lawnole23

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    I mean how are stories from people that knew him best over 50-60 years not evidence in support of him being a good person?

    I have not seen any evidence from people that knew him well prior to 2019 saying he was a piece of shit.

    I’m not sure there is any evidence that could meet your claimed burden of proof.
     
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  29. Daniel Ocean

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    youre taking those replies out of context. The War Grundle reply was him directly contradicting what Lyrtch said


    that’s literally lyrtch saying Bowden isn’t a good person and WG saying he’ll take his former players word for it.
     
  30. War Grundle

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    They would know more than you right?
     
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  31. Daniel Ocean

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    that is what I said you guys did and Duval said no one did that and that I fabricated it. I never said it wasn’t proof of him being a good person I said because you guys are fans you’re willing to take the word of his former players and loved ones as proof that he is a good person whereas people on the outside aren’t willing to take that as proof. Duval you gonna still claim no one did that?
     
  32. Daniel Ocean

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    so just so Duval understands you were saying you’d take his former players word that he was a good person as proof that he was a good person, right? I didn’t misunderstand you or make that up, did I?
     
  33. Lawnole23

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    the retort to that is on one hand you have a whole lot of people that knew him well saying he was a great person. In contrast there is being a Trumper at 90 years old but nothing else in response suggesting he was not a good person.

    One would seem to outweigh the other on the character scale.
     
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  34. War Grundle

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    Taking people’s word who spent decades with him means more than guys on the internet who never met him. That takes some arrogance.
     
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  36. War Grundle

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    Yes, I said that.
     
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  37. Daniel Ocean

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    I said you guys were using his former players saying he was a good person as proof that he was a good person. Duval said I was stupid and fabricated that. Which I obviously didn’t.
     
  38. Lawnole23

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    Bobby is a human being. I’m sure there were negatives to him. There are also people that probably didn’t like him for whatever reason.

    Being a good person is relative to whomever is looking at the person. However, the evidence he did a whole lot more good in the world seems a lot higher than any bad. IMO that will make you a “good person.”
     
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  39. Daniel Ocean

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    but, I wasn’t saying take my word over theirs. Duval said I made up that argument and that none of you guys said it.
     
  40. Lawnole23

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    Maybe I am mistaken. I believe he was talking about the point that people said because he was a good football coach that automatically made him a good person. Nobody said that.
     
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  42. Daniel Ocean

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    no he literally said I fabricated the fact that you guys said you’d take his players word that he was a good person as proof that he was a good person. Which I obviously didn’t.

     
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    Texas A&M coach Jimbo Fisher, who coached under Bowden and then took over at Florida State after the former’s retirement, took the stage at SEC Media Days on Wednesday. Fisher was asked to give his thoughts on Bowden.

    “I think he's one of the greatest — not only greatest football coach that ever lived, he's one of the greatest human beings that's ever lived,” Fisher said.

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    case closed tell em, dumps n bump
     
  44. Daniel Ocean

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    Open and shut case I think we’re done here.
     
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    Bobby was awesome to me and my parents when I met him.

    That's all I have to share.

    Thanks for having me.
     
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    wOw