Don't forget: cops are garbage

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  1. 941Gator

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    It’s hard to draw the line between a good person and bad cop. Great guy, great husband, fun to get a beer with sure, yes....lies on sworn documents literally every shift, yes that too.
     
  2. marcus

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    Honestly asking, but why do you paint the broad brush? What do you do for work?
     
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  3. 941Gator

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    criminal defense. So I analyze their work. And these “good guys” still lie if they think that is the right thing to do. Just the game.
     
  4. 941Gator

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    Parkman will be here shortly to talk about my bias, which he is right, but it doesn’t change the fact that the culture of us vs them (cops vs civilians) is adversarial and breeds absolute liars and usually facilitates discrimination/prejudice. Not to insinuate I do anything to help.
     
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  5. marcus

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    Fair enough.
     
  6. kinghill

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    Page 6 - a lawyer is calling someone else a liar.

    :banderas:
     
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  7. 941Gator

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    i don’t think we should hold cops to any standard either.
     
  8. marcus

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    Breeds a culture for some, not all.
     
  9. 941Gator

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    agreed not all of them buy into it. but the original discussion was that the press blows up what small percentage of bad cops there are, and my point was that the press doesn’t catch most of it.
     
  10. 941Gator

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    luckily the police are watched closely......by the police. No conflict there.
     
  11. Randy Bobandi

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    Isn’t the Bar Association made up by lawyers?
     
  12. CUtigers86

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    It’s almost as if your shitbag clients don’t make the high profile/high risk/low paying job easy...?
     
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  13. 941Gator

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    you mean for crimes? no, that goes to the police/state.
     
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  14. 941Gator

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    can't argue that. I guess that justifies it.
     
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  15. CUtigers86

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    I guess maybe have the same empathy for cops as people/employees that you do for your shitbag clients that i’m sure you are more than happy to give the benefit of the doubt to since we don’t live in a perfect world... primarily due to people like your shitbag clients?
     
  16. ElectricDreamMachine

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    um so is anyone else horrified to find that Bill the Butcher is a cop?

    that might be a p good indication of what type of people are drawn to that work
     
  17. CUtigers86

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    We got who we got. Maybe if we paid them more than didn’t treat their profession the way a lot of people clearly do in this thread and on this site we could expect more?

    Also, this guy may not be 100% just like his e-persona in irl. Just a thought.
     
  18. 941Gator

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    Empathy about cops acting like lying shitbags? You don't think we should distinguish the two or hold them to different standards?

    I'm sure many jobs have a requirement/oath to do what is best for the client, which comes at a cost. Meanwhile the police take an oath (among other things) to abide by their rules/standard. As for the "shitbags," they go to jail. That is their accountability. The 3 parties here seem to have fairly defined roles.
     
  19. ElectricDreamMachine

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    i think that attitude towards cops is pretty understandable given what's been revealed in recent years

    and what an odd defense. so he just has abhorrent views on the internet and definitely doesn't let that bleed over into real life?
     
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  20. CUtigers86

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    Have you been 100% completely honest in your personal life and work? I mean, you are a lawyer.

    Oh wait, you probably haven’t been because it would lead to bad results and consequences for your job.

    I think they should be held to high standards and they clearly are.
     
  21. 941Gator

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    you're not making sense, homie.
     
  22. AIOLICOCK

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    Not surprising imo
     
  23. 941Gator

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    you understand the difference between a lawyer telling the jury that his guy wasn't there vs a swearing to a bold face lie in effort to get someone arrested?
     
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  25. CUtigers86

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    What you occasionally see on the news by very rare bad actors by people in a very tough, high stress job does not mean it justifies an “attitude” toward the profession of law enforcement.

    It’s not ok to do this with cops just like it isn’t ok to do it with any other group of individuals.

    I do understand the difference. I just think your career is largely based on hiding truths and turning a blind eye to your clients’ lies so it’s funny to see you on your high horse and justifying it because of your oath while you point the finger. I get it... i’ll just side with the person that stops crimes for a living if that’s ok with you?
     
  26. 941Gator

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    I think he is pretty reasonable on this topic actually. His earlier points made sense, but his current analogy does not work.
     
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  27. CUtigers86

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    Adults are having a conversation. Go be a petty loser in the Trump thread.
     
  28. 941Gator

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    you're still confused and scaring me a tad. There are only 2 sides here, right and wrong. If you hire a lawyer because you got a DUI and he tells the State the truth, that you drank whiskey that night, he loses his license. That is his standard of care and it is held. If a cop writes under perjury that he smelled alcohol when he didn't smell it, he should lose his shield. That's his standard. So now you realize your analogy made no sense.

    Now I assume you realize this it is not a blurred line topic. Cops shouldn't be lying.
     
  29. ElectricDreamMachine

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    i would agree that 'cop who shoots black guy' is an outlier, but 'cop who holds bigoted views and is there to maintain the status quo social order for the wealthy and mostly white elite' is absolutely the majority. the butcher is nowhere near an outlier.
     
  30. 941Gator

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    I agree with you here.
     
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  31. CUtigers86

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    No it isn’t. That is your whacked out assumption of the personal thoughts of individuals you don’t know.

    You do know a lot of LEOs are African American or Latino and in almost every instance not “wealthy” so even assuming you could read minds this makes little sense.

    Who is actually the person with bigoted views here that makes assumptions about groups of people they don’t know? Sounds like you are very guilty of this behavior that you appear to disagree with.
     
  32. CUtigers86

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    I hear you. I’m just saying you can hide behind your misgivings and say it’s justified. I understand why that is the standard for law. Looking at things black and white, you’re correct. These things are rarely black and white though.

    If I was having a conversation with a cop on the example you gave, he could probably justify not being honest for the greater good by saying he told a little lie for the greater good of society.

    I get it. I don’t think it’s right. I get your frustration with it. I’m just saying both of you have a job to do and plenty of justifications to provide for whatever you do.

    As a tax paying, law abiding citizen I look at things differently than you. I don’t just excuse your dishonestly because of the verbiage of your oath and it’s best for your client and then lose sleep over a cop telling a lie for the greater good of society to move toward a better result for the community I live in. You are both being dishonest to achieve your desired outcome and you are doing it on a more consistent basis.

    Not saying it makes you a bad guy. Not saying when cops do it they’re bad guys. You’re both humans. I believe you both are acting in your best interests and doing what you believe is right.
     
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  33. 941Gator

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    would you rather have honest cops that let guilty ppl go or cops that make good arrests at the cost of lying?

    It is ironic, being immoral is also being ethical in some instances or vice versa.
     
  34. CUtigers86

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    First priority is “guilty” people see justice. I would rather not see a “guilty” person free on a technicality to possibly harm my friends, family and community later. Honest answer. I sincerely don’t want innocent people accused of crimes they did not commit doing time they do not deserve.

    It’s complicated. I do feel for the cops that do this job, having to deal with opinions like those of the people itt, that receive very little praise and compensation. All the while they are held to the standard of being a modern day Jesus Christ with lightning fast good judgement in these intense situations.

    With all due respect, I would rather have your job.
     
  35. Bill the Butcher

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    Why is that?
     
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  37. ElectricDreamMachine

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    Cause you’re a bigoted dipshit?
     
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    Oh, sorry I hurt your feelings at some point.
     
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  40. marcus

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    What?
     
  41. CUtigers86

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    Lol it’s so funny that with this pandering you still can’t get people to like you. Man, you suck!
     
  42. AIOLICOCK

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    lmfao who the fuck do you think likes you? :roll:
     
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  43. CUtigers86

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    Well... in the Braves thread that I participate in there isn’t a countdown to a thread ban me, so I have that going for me.
     
  44. Redav

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    Massachusetts state police tweet and quickly delete map of home explosions, after they realize it shows them monitoring multiple leftist groups:

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    Cops. Are. The. Enemy.
     
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  46. THE GUBBS

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    u know ?
    I was not going to comment on this subject .
    I honestly know the importance of this , - both ways .

    p.s. America can not become a police state of mind although personal protection is at a premium , also , so ?
    better buy a gun , huh ?shoot the mother fucker first ask questions later , huh ?

    just remember to yell SELF DEFENSE .
     
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