DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

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  1. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Some of both I think. They looked good in their last tournament until they kind of threw two games against Empire (Prob a top 10 team right now) to lose the series. Saksa just looks like a way better fit than misery.

    Pajkatt is also much better in the fear type role imo where he's farming less and making more plays around the map. Also better for CCnC.
     
  2. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    Aww shit, Frostivus is back
     
  3. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Optic is looking really good since misery left tbqh
     
  4. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Dat DK set

    :feedme:
     
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  5. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Optic just shit on Fanatic, win the group
     
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  7. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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  8. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    Clemson Tigers

    man i got fucking wrecked in lane as slark. completely zoned me out and i got no farm at all

    and then i got battlefury

    #oopsiepoopsie

    [​IMG]
     
  9. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    .... Battlefury Slark?
     
  10. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    black was talking about it on one of his streams

    said if you get absolutely wrecked in lane and get no farm you need to get it over midas so you can farm more effectively in mid game
     
  11. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    Clemson Tigers

    every game is going to fucking to have at least one of the following:

    juggernaut, pudge, invoker, or tinker

    every

    fucking

    game

    i hate this fucking patch
     
  12. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players


    git gud
     
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  13. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    pick weaver

    +25 mmr

    against a tinker and jugg :mulletsmug:
     
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  14. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    pudge yes absolutely but that's been true in dota since I started. Everyone wants to hit pro hooks.

    Invoker is complete trash in this patch tho.

    I played 3 turbos to get the 3 wins, got the Troll set, nottoobad. DK set is fire tho.
     
  15. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    When they reworked the talents I don't think I got the mana break the first time or two, but once I did I realized how good it was. Great item on him.
     
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  16. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    Clemson Tigers

    deso stacks with dblade doesn't it?
     
  17. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    There's pretty much no unique attack modifiers anymore, so for the most part everything stacks with everything, except for like diffusal on AM or something.
     
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  18. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    nyx/zeus/pudge/weaver(me)/cyka

    vs

    dazzle/storm spirit/shadow shaman/AM/jugg

    who wins a 50min game?

     
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  19. skiedfrillet

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    guy first picks clinkz and claims mid

    -25 mmr

    he lost to a fucking LC
     
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  20. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    just had an incredible stomping

    venge, dk, weaver, disruptor, drow

    vs

    am, timber, storm spirit, jakiro, pudge

    i was venge and went all armor debuff items laning with drow against timber

    timber was like 0-4 by 7minutes
     
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  21. RonBurgundy

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    Every time I pick drow in a pub my teammates pick melee heroes
     
  22. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    first pick meepo mid

    2-16

    =//////
     
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  23. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    just went up against a mid that had 750 gpm/xpm average over the last 20 games

    =///////////
     
  24. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players

    finished my calibrations while playing only position 6 poverty support for all qualifications. went 5-5

    Legend 4 4054MMR
     
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  25. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Grant to PPD: "LGD couldn't even pull one out for you huh?"

    PPD: "Well they gave us 3, so can't really ask for much more."

    <3 you pedur
     
  26. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    Ppd is my fave dota follow
     
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  27. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Hit a personal record 3.2K mmr before couple of losses so time to retire to turbo only mode gbr nfm
    this is p impressive, I made a smurf account where I played only support heroes with a friend of mine and calibrated 800 points lower than I am on my main account
     
  28. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    I think your best attribute is probably your farming which is why you win so much on heroes like AM and Cyka, and you just haven't played support as much.

    I calibrated slightly above my previous mmr playing support where as I'm sure it would have been lower if I calibrated as carry.
     
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  29. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players

    I really just wanted to prove that I'm still 1000 mmr better than skillet without reading patch notes or playing for 3 months
     
  30. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]
     
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  31. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Probably true, also why I I have ~65% win rate on farming offlaners like Centaur and Underlord. I end up similar net worth to my carry most games. I can’t roam at all and feed too much as a 5.
     
  32. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    if you could maintain a 65% winrate you'd top my mmr in a week
     
  33. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    clearly the only reason you're higher rn is bc you haven't had to play against south american scum that ruin your mood to the point where you hate your life and want to murder everyone

    that's obv atleast a 1001 mmr swing you aren't accounting for
     
  34. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Sorry boys about that timbersaw game, knew after 3 deaths in 5 minutes it was gg so I took the early abandon to save everyone some time. Gg
     
  35. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    That’s the thing, I usually find the strongest pub hero of the patch that fits my play style and spam for ez mmr. If I played a wide hero pool I’d be consistently more like 2.7K or so, as evidenced by my 0-3 night party queue playing razor, slardar, Timbersaw who all 3 I have a combined 10 games on
     
  36. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Sing/Gorgc/Rime + Sheever and another 4k player beat Miracle and Mind Control's stack twice in a row :laugh:
     
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  37. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    oh i bet sing did some amazing shit talking
     
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  38. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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  39. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Probably retarded that it took this long for it to click for me, but had bit of an epiphany with my recent roaming naga experiment. Shove creep waves in. Whenever you can. Over and over. Even if you're not damaging towers at all.

    -Stops other team from doing what they want/playing aggressive because someone always has to go back and stop it.
    -Easiest way to set up ganks.
    -Can force fights where a team is split up because you know one of their cores can't get there bc he just TP'd.
    -Even if they win fights they can't get any objectives off it.

    Last several naga games basically all I do is send all my illusions down one lane and then go look for a fight somewhere else and they've all been stomps with the other team averaging like 1.5k building damage.
     
    #12990 miles, Dec 16, 2017
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  40. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    Shit, I don't need to look at mmr to know I'm better than skillet

    :smug:
     
    #12991 swiggle, Dec 16, 2017
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  41. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    Rime is a rly good mid
     
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  42. swiggle

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    Goddamn EG sucks
     
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  43. Handcuffed

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    OpTic.rtz pls

    CCnC is bad
     
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  44. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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  45. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    I have had the woat games tonight. Just had to last pick a carry because no one on my team picked one. Phoenix goes offlane. Pudge goes mid. I have a beastmaster in my lane as my "support." Up against a timbersaw and clinkz. We literally can not do anything but sit back and last hit the creeps they let us have.

    -25 mmr
     
  46. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    legend 5

    @skillet
     
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  47. swiggle

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  48. skiedfrillet

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    Clemson Tigers

    Glad I didn’t play last night. Had s feeling I’d be stuck in lots of games like miles just described
     
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  49. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member