DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

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  1. RonBurgundy

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    We LoL now.

    I would love this if it was permanent tbqh.
     
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  2. Handcuffed

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    why? the current meta says safe/mid/off/support x2 is best but whose to say that is optimized forever? or for every draft?
     
  3. miles

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    Those don't change. It's just the way people play them that changes with the meta. All they really apply to is farm priority/support items responsibility/importance of giving them a good lane.

    -There's always going to be 1 core that has top priority for getting a good lane to make sure he comes online. (Carry)
    -1 core that a team intends to lane alone most of the time who is against a solo core on the enemy team. (Mid)
    -1 core that gets the difficult lane and doesn't need as much farm/helping is not heavily prioritized. (offlane)
    -1 support that generally helps wherever is needed, moves around the most, and buys wards if the hard support can't or if the hard support is really close to an item they need. Doesn't farm a lane if any core is in the lane with him. (Soft Support)
    -1 support that buys the majority of the wards, detection, and items the team needs. Lanes with Carry and has the lowest farm priority on the team. (hard support)

    Changes in the meta means that sometimes offlane is solo, sometimes the 4 trilanes, sometimes the 4 jungles (Hasn't been that way for a long time), sometimes the offlane dual lanes with a static 4. When you pick a position all you're doing is picking your farm priority and how difficult your lane will be.
     
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  4. RonBurgundy

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    Also optimal efficiency in BP farming involves playing nothing but turbo god bless you ice frog!
     
  5. Poetic

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    EG better win this minor.
     
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  6. RonBurgundy

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    Secret though.
     
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  7. RonBurgundy

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    The battle pass chat wheel Filipino announcer lines are hilarious
     
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  8. Poetic

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    They locked them way to far ahead. 1200+.

    But yes, they're great. The pinoy casters are always funny.
     
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  9. RonBurgundy

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    Yeah I think my highest BP level was 350 last year for the IO arcana, I don’t usually go crazy.

    The mid season sale is usually a good time to get cheap levels
     
  10. RonBurgundy

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    Of course, Riki is my best hero and I have an 80% win rate with it in turbo but when I need to for the stupid cavern quest I lose 4 games in a row
     
  11. Poetic

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    Riki is my best too, and I suck with him. RIP.

    Think my problem is i never played the game consistently, always like a few months then quit for 7-9 and then i have to relearn how to play. Plus 80% of the time i play I'm drunk. It's amazing i dont have reports on my record.
     
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  12. jplaYa

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    Yeah that’s my problem too. I always buy the international battle pass to support the game because I love watching the international. When I play for 1-2 months during that time, the game always has changed so much it’s almost too much to adjust.

    Luckily I’m in the trench where the game really never changes...:gross:
     
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  13. RonBurgundy

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    Turbo is nice for relearning the game. If you are awful and feed, you only have a miserable 20 minute game instead of 40+
     
  14. miles

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    I might spam a bunch of turbo later just to practice LD.
     
  15. Poetic

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    So when i start playing again, i should just jump straight into turbo?
     
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  16. miles

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    I probably would. There's basically zero down time because teams are always fighting, so it's the best way to get your muscle memory back on the keyboard.
     
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  17. RonBurgundy

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    Key to turbo: don’t farm neutrals. Jungle exp/gold is waaaay reduce compared to creeps and heroes so just be wherever action is. TP cooldown is halved so always able to TP to fights. If you get a pushing lineup you can end in 8-10 minutes with good teamwork.
     
  18. miles

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    fify
     
  19. Poetic

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    Being an EG fan is like the worst thing about Dota... haha
     
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  20. skiedfrillet

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    New game mode is meh. People spamming Zeus and clinkz is aids as fuck tho
     
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  21. RonBurgundy

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    I have a 30% win rate since the battlepass started. Yay me
     
  22. RonBurgundy

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    EG loses to Keen Gaming and gets 5th.

    Welp, not completely but almost eliminates them from TI automatic qualifying unless they win or get second place at the super major
     
  23. Handcuffed

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    ^and it's amazing

    ppd4lyfe
     
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  24. Poetic

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    I love ppd and want to root for optic, but i only like him and Zai. I cant get behind the others. Ideally ppd ends up with Sumail again in a perfect world but i dont see it. NA dota being any kind of threat is probably over for now.
     
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  25. Poetic

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    EG doesn't have any playmakers, their shot calling is shit, they're wasting their most talented player in the offlane, fear while being a legend definitely doesn't have it anymore. His impact in losses has been so bad. Rtz only seems to do well when he's playing from being ahead.

    Team is a mess, and is boring to watch. Im going to enjoy the tournament this weekend cause i can just watch good dotes and not have to be invested in a team.
     
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  26. Handcuffed

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    i dont care about pajkatt and i actively dislike ccnc but 33 is one of the most talented players in dota.. i'll be sad for ppd when the upcoming secret disband results in puppey poaching him.
     
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  27. Poetic

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    Not too familiar with him then if being honest.

    So they have their 3-5 sorted. They severely need a better carry and mid.
     
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  28. RonBurgundy

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    33 is amazing. Was really skeptical when they brought him on but he’s ridiculously good. Him and Zai are so talented.

    I think they are a Tier 1 midlander away from being a contender at good tournaments and a mid/carry combo away from being elite.(which is 40% of the team, but still)
     
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  29. Poetic

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    Pretty good chance if EG doesn't top 8 and has to go thru quals they don't make it. Optic and VGS are both capable of knocking them off.
     
  30. RonBurgundy

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    VGJ.Storm wins the minor. NA TI quals are SCARY
     
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  31. miles

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    EG had their chances and flubbed them, but they probably do have some gripes about their luck in draws. Constantly got secret/liquid/VP in the quarterfinals.
     
  32. RonBurgundy

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    PPD has been on stream spamming turbo mode for cavern crawl solidifying him as GOAT dota player
     
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  33. Poetic

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    I was going to ask that, turbo mode probably the best for cavern right? I played a couple unranked games today but might just grind turbo hard going forward to get the rewards.
     
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  34. RonBurgundy

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    Yeah anyone who is looking to level BP is playing turbo. Cavern games count there so it's like tripled in popularity. Our TMB stack plowed through a bunch tonight
     
  35. broXcore

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  36. miles

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    You started dotes at a relatively fun time when Slark sucked.

    Seems that time has ended
     
  37. jplaYa

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    Maybe I should accidentally pick CK more
     
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  38. RonBurgundy

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    Best part about turbo is 100% bans. You can literally ban slark every single game if desired.

    That’s what I do to zeus
     
  39. broXcore

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    i guess i have to choose between PA, huskar, and slark now :(
     
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  40. skiedfrillet

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    ban slark every game

    other ones are easy to deal with in comparison
     
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  41. Poetic

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    So yeah, VGJ Storm is a problem.
     
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  42. miles

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    I felt like I was taking crazy pills when MSS wasn't picked up by a top team after the way he played on NP last year. Man his Tusk shit all over LGD.
     
  43. skiedfrillet

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    DP is a ton of fun
     
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  44. miles

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    Only played a couple times but my experience is that people don't realize how powerful spirit siphon is and will often just feed you kills trying to go on you.
     
  45. RonBurgundy

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    and you can activate multiple siphons at the same time.
     
  46. skiedfrillet

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    turbo is unplayable

    AM/slark/sniper/pa are picked every fucking game
     
  47. RonBurgundy

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    Wrong
     
  48. jplaYa

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  50. RonBurgundy

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    I’ll probably turbo it up later