DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by bricktop, Jan 11, 2013.

Tags:
  1. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    yeah it looked terrible. at one point, one of the teams took a special neutral camp and their reward was that it was able to be activated towards a tower and it did half damage towards the mid tier 2 lol. shit was unbelievable.
     
    miles likes this.
  2. broXcore

    broXcore cat
    Donor
    Kansas State WildcatsNew York KnicksKansas City ChiefsSporting Kansas CityTottenham HotspurFormula 1

    not to mention the game client is fucking terrible. it takes forever to load, isn't intuitive, and the updates are pretty slow as well
     
    BlazingRebel likes this.
  3. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsArizona CardinalsSt. Louis BluesLiverpool

    That all sounds so awful.
     
  4. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Yeah, their Rosh is basically one of a couple possible huge neutrals that give specific team bonuses. No aegis. Basically when a team is a ahead net worth and take Baron the game is basically over. Baron gives bonus gold based on gold advantages, so then the team just fucking stomps ahead net worth, all TP Home and buy OP shit, then push a lane and end game with their new massive net worth advantage.

    Imagine a Dota team is up 5K at 25 minutes, takes Rosh, grabs all bounties and pushes lanes, and networth is now 15K only 2 minutes later. That’s how a lot of Baron “Power Plays” work and it basically just ends the game. Super boring. First Baron win rate in pro league is like 85%+
     
  5. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    I do wish Dota had Leona or Morgana

    My two fav heroes from lol

    Also veigar is nice
     
  6. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    I feel like League has a lot more fun skillshot based abilities.

    Hook and Arrow and pangolier abilities feel so fun, I think league has many more of those types, right?
     
  7. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    Ezreal or whatever has 4 skill shot abilities and he’s fun as fuck
     
  8. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

  9. broXcore

    broXcore cat
    Donor
    Kansas State WildcatsNew York KnicksKansas City ChiefsSporting Kansas CityTottenham HotspurFormula 1

    RonBurgundy likes this.
  10. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    The worst is timber and i were already picked 3/4 in offlane, and he premarked WK carry. THEN after invoker is picked he instant locked clock and marks enemy jungle after rubick had picked. So we had ursa go safelane and timber mid.

    I reported him
     
  11. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

  12. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Assuming Timber was mid and Ursa safe? Games where neither your carry or mid pick a hero that hits buildings are usually miserable. I've started trying to pay attention to that in the draft in the few games where I play one of those 2 positions, cause it's easy to forget about that (also having someone that can shove waves) when you're so focused on counter picking.
     
  13. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Last night I took 156K damage as a centaur. Highest I’ve seen since they released the stat.
     
    miles likes this.
  14. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
    Donor
    Florida State Seminoles

    SIAP



    spoiler: we’re all gonna die
     
  15. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    I’d beat it 1v1
     
  16. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    where are you nerds
     
    RonBurgundy likes this.
  17. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    On in a few
     
    RonBurgundy likes this.
  18. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    hate to see lies like this
     
    RonBurgundy likes this.
  19. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Handcuffed and I are out there demolishing Peruvians and 0 other TMB’ers are around? For shame.

    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4159768686
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4159860080
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4159831549
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4159732958

    4-0 last night :feelsgoodman:

    Not sure it’s possible to lose as a level 25 Centaur with a heart. Don’t know how you die as long as you aren’t caught alone by the entire team.

    Also we had a game where our team was Riki, pudge and Techies that went nearly 70 minutes vs Sniper/pangolin/Sven/kunkka. Not sure how you don’t just abandon at that point, you can’t push into the techies and we couldn’t go hg vs that lineup so we just killed them once they left the base
     
    swiggle likes this.
  20. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    I've been destroying Athenian scum on AC Odyssey
     
    BlazingRebel and RonBurgundy like this.
  21. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    someone come play with swiggle and i
     
    swiggle and RonBurgundy like this.
  22. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Omw
     
    swiggle likes this.
  23. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    swiggle likes this.
  24. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    slark is such a stupid fucking hero

    so broken
     
    DEAD7 and swiggle like this.
  25. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    ODPixel is such a great caster
     
    jplaYa likes this.
  26. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Good last one to end on. Once handcuffed got the pipe fights went pretty easy.
     
  27. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    you should have been around for hte next game

    it was amazing

    drow mid went 0-14
     
  28. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    10:15- dying

     
    swiggle likes this.
  29. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsArizona CardinalsSt. Louis BluesLiverpool

    <3 Fuck, that entire game was hilarious.
     
    miles likes this.
  30. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    I've played two really good games recently:

    Kunkka mid; itemized well (Halberd against an Ursa and LC). We lost every lane but mid and then people started coming mid and it was a clusterfuck which messed up my own game. They had a good VS support who was warding, bought spirit vessel, would Q to get vision for swaps or swap out of ganks, etc. and they had map control for every single rosh. They pushed lanes and took barracks but I eventually got enough farm and Lich was able to get level 25 at the very end + our 2K/20D Spectre got a 35 minute first item diffusal and we finally were able to wipe them 2-3 times on their mid high ground pushes and they didn't have buybacks. We came back from 23K.

    https://www.opendota.com/matches/4169660926
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4169660926

    Void offlane; kill score of 72-77. They had Zeus, Sniper, Sven, and CK late game. We had Witch Doctor mid and Ench and Spirit Breaker. I had 823 gpm and I think I bought a battlefury at 50 min just for the mana sustain. From a map movement perspective, this was one of my best games in terms of getting farm. I probably should've gotten the bfury earlier because I was so starved of mana for much of the game (and everyone at higher levels would've gotten bkb) but I was very clearly the best player in this game and that feels good and Void's not the easiest hero for me to win games on when that's the case.

    https://www.opendota.com/matches/4170752442
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4170752442
     
  31. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    On a lot of mana starved heroes like Void if I'm not getting a BF in my build I'll carry 2-4 clarities with me at all times in backpack and pop them after fights or while clearing jungle camps/lanes. 200 gold for unlimited mana seems worth.

    Also you are consistently better than every other player in your bracket when we party queue, so I'm surprised your don't ranked up faster. probably would help if you limited your hero pool and played a carry/carryable mid/offlaner every game.
     
  32. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Yeah, it kinda sucks, but sticking to about 5 meta heroes you're good at is key to ranking up. If I was going to try to grind MMR I'd probably just spam Centaur/Abba/Riki/Bristle/Brew
     
  33. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Riki/centaur/Lich spam got me my last 400 MMR. 3000->3400
     
  34. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    lc on my team just now rushed vlads and echo sabre

    -25mmr
     
    DEAD7 likes this.
  35. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    grimstoke is my new favorite hero

    this guy fucks
     
    RonBurgundy likes this.
  36. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Sing was playing a game a while back where he was grimstroke and they had a lion and Lina on their team.

    zap zap
     
    swiggle and skiedfrillet like this.
  37. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    Handcuffed and i did lich/lion last night in offlane together and completely dominated
     
    miles likes this.
  38. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    When I lane with Handcuffed and he takes a cs from me
    *nsfw
     
    skiedfrillet, swiggle and miles like this.
  39. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Me laning with a visage last night after queueing offlane ranked roles:

    "Dude, can you stop last hitting? You queued support."

    > I need 538 gold for Power Treads
     
  40. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    is there a bigger power spike than when centaur gets a heart?

    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4180840706

    game from tonight. i was centaur and was kind of getting shit on early game. eventually farmed a heart once we settled our lanes (which took a while... vs. a drow + our only catch hero in shaman had abandoned), it was GG. i was basically the only one who could push lanes and not die and we had zero catch (they had three shadow blades + morph+linkins + tinker) and we still won because i had like 6k+ health and blademail.
     
    RonBurgundy and DEAD7 like this.
  41. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    It’s insane. Plus 25 return aura talent. But, there are so few ways to lose once you have heart. You kill towers so fast by yourself.

    Also Centaur tip: vs. Drow, vanguard -> crimson guard mitigates all that bonus damage.

    Also causes PL illusions to deal single digit damage.
     
  42. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Centaur is almost an autopick for me whenever I see a sniper/drow/WR at this point, especially since I'm always playing offlane anyway. No matter how stupid your team builds you will always have a way for everybody to jump on the back line and kill the ranged glass cannon. Also one of the best halberd carriers in the game because he's a strength hero and has a passive based on it, so he really benefits from that +20.
     
    DEAD7 likes this.
  43. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    RonBurgundy and miles like this.
  44. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    RonBurgundy likes this.
  45. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    every game i play grimstroke i end up dumpstering our lane and the other 2 lanes feed hard

    every

    fucking

    time
     
    RonBurgundy likes this.
  46. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    You may not like it, but Dagon first SB is peak SB

    [​IMG]
     
    broXcore likes this.
  47. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed A Succulent Chinese Meal
    Staff Donor
    Seattle MarinersOregon DucksPortland TimbersPortland Trail Blazers

    another smurf?
     
    RonBurgundy likes this.
  48. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    yeah trying to get this one lower so we dont have 6 minute queue times everytime.