Electric Vehicles

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  1. Name P. Redacted

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    Dunno, feel like minivans are avoided like the plague in the demographic mix of multiple kids and can afford EV SUVs.
     
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  2. Handcuffed

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    a $175k car? wtf
     
  3. jaygabriel

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    Less than 600 of those models will be built. Base model (480 hp, 450 miles range) will be around $75k and will start production early next year.
     
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  4. racer

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    That lucid air is amazing
     
  5. NineteenNine

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    I’m renting a model y this weekend. Am super stoked.
     
  6. NineteenNine

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    The new F-150 is absolutely gonna kill the Rivian truck BTW. The “mega power frunk” alone is miles better than the storage on the Rivian. Still love the SUV though.
     
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  7. PAHokie

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    I watched the inside EV review from the other day and am so hyped on the F150. Pretty sure I’m going to be getting one.
     
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  8. NineteenNine

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    Quick review, cements that I’ll get an EV next go round. But it won’t likely be a Tesla. Enjoyed driving it but it’s not a luxury vehicle at all. Lots of rattles and road noise. And the center screen stuff isn’t as intuitive as I wanted. Overall fun to drive though.
     
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  9. JZCane6688

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    Any legs to the rumors that Tesla is going to re-boot the Model Y SR+ sometime in Q4? Would I still be able to order one now off-menu?
     
  10. racer

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    I’m still somewhat interested in Tesla. I want to find out how it’s going to work when they use different cells in different plants. How would you go about making sure you get a Y from Austin rather than Fremont? Will all production of say a Y LR go to Austin for 4680s or are you taking a gamble when you order than it might be made in Fremont with 2170s?
    Disclaimer: I have not dove deep into Tesla battery tech, this is just a scenario I’ve made up in my head.
     
  11. racer

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    I love my mach-e. I’ll plug it all day, especially when they have some decent improvements slated for 22 in terms of efficiency. The F-150 looks super promising as well. Give one a test drive when you can.

    I’m kind of a Ford stan now and I’m slightly horrified by this fact.
     
  12. Scblue

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    Have the Polestar 2 and am really happy with it. Too many folks out here have Teslas and didn't want to go that direction.
     
  13. afb

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    It’s coming back for China only, right side steering wheel.

    I’ve always thought they would bring it back to the US once the 4680s come out bc then they can up the range.

    You currently cannot order one off menu. They were only available for like 3 weeks.
     
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  14. afb

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    Given that the 4680s should improve range, I doubt they will sell both and it be random to the buyer
     
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  15. racer

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    I don’t trust them
     
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  16. afb

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    Seems pointless to ask the question then
     
  17. NineteenNine

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    I think I convinced my BIL to get a lightning when they come out (he currently has a 2014 f150 platinum). Was telling him the specs and shit after driving around in the Tesla and his eyes were popping out of his head.
     
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  18. afb

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    I’ll let drivers of other EVs chime in but most EVs are gonna have the noise issue as there is no engine. I also play music/podcasts so I’ve never really noticed road noise in any vehicle.

    Curious what wasn’t intuitive about the screen
     
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  19. NineteenNine

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    Just felt like an Android vs an iPhone. Found myself hunting for things.
     
  20. racer

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    The Mach e soundproofing is pretty good. It is definitely a more quiet ride than my Subarus. I feel like this was a big selling point from their truck commercials in the last 10 years or so as well.
     
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  21. afb

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    Gotcha.

    I will say after 3 months now, everything is pretty much set to where I never really go into settings and look for things. Only thing I ever do on the touch screen is adjust a/c, turn on wipers after hitting the physical button, and then hit the camera button to switch back to live camera view because I have those running all the time instead of using mirrors.
     
  22. PAHokie

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    Im getting a little antsy for them to allow ordering to occur so I can really see the cost. At this moment I’m about 85% sure I’ll do it regardless.
     
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  23. racer

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    I’m all in on the standard range lightning pro as a second vehicle to the Mach e at this point. Absurd value for the time. Obviously I want to see a finalized product before I purchase, which is probably going to be at order delivery.
     
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  24. Russellin4885

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    I have a 2018 M3 and while not super quiet it never bothers me. The new plaid has noise canceling speakers so would think that will be coming to all model's pretty soon and will eliminate any of that worry.
     
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  25. poetictrojan

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    Want an electric and leaning towards the Mach-e at the moment. Only hold up is that I feel like tech is improving so quick that awesome stuff is coming in the next couple of years. I have a Mazda 6 that only has 60k miles so weighing driving that for a couple more years to see what else comes vs pulling trigger now.
     
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  26. Russellin4885

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    You will be able to say the same thing in 2 years. There will always be something new and better right around the corner with EV's for the foreseeable future. If you want one and can afford it just go ahead and get one. You won't regret it.
     
  27. afb

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    idk if that will come to more models

    feels like that might only be for the x & y since they are the more expensive models
     
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  28. ButchCassidy

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    This is mostly where I'm at. A bit of FOMO for a tax credit (tho I wouldn't mind a Tesla, and they no longer qualify for the credit), plus my used car being worth more than I owe on it. That'll likely never happen again, so I kind of want to trade it in, just because.
     
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  29. poetictrojan

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    Bought my Mazda with 3k miles for $23k five years ago and just paid it off. Similar cars are selling for $18/19k right now which has me wanting to take advantage and upgrading but no payment would be nice too.
     
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  30. racer

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    The gas reduction or elimination each month is a nice offset to a car payment
     
  31. JZCane6688

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    Tesla peeps - I really like the Model Y but don't really need the long range capability as I only drive about 7500 miles a year (work from home and travel one week per month) and my wife's Ascent is our family hauler.

    I get can a pretty well equipped Model 3 for about $10-13k less but worried about practicality since I want to be able to fit a car seat comfortably, stroller in the trunk, etc. Not necessarily a deal-breaker but wondering if I should just step my game up and get a Y or look at a Mach-E or ID.4
     
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  32. NineteenNine

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    Yeah, I’m sure if I sat and played with it for an hour it would feel easier.
     
  33. Russellin4885

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    While not huge by any stretch you would be amazed how much you can fit in a model 3. With having no engine the car gets to add a lot of space. We use it for any of our family trips, including a week long trip with a 3 year old and car seat.
     
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  34. JZCane6688

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    This is really helpful. Thank you sir
     
  35. PAHokie

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    Reading about the F150 production I wonder who and how many people will actually get one next year. Targeted of 15k built in 2022, 55k in 2023 and 80k in 2024. Do we assume higher end versions will be out first or will they work to get the contractor level ones rolling?
     
  36. Russellin4885

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    I know with Tesla, Lucid, and other EV makers they start with higher end because they actually want limited supply while they ramp up production. Maybe Ford is different since they've been making cars forever but I would expect higher end models first.
     
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  37. PAHokie

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    well then fingers crossed that wanting a Larait will help me get one on the sooner side of things.
     
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  38. bigred77

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    I would also think the fleet type/contractor sales will take longer to adapt to EV trucks in general
    Probably some municipalities around that will sooner
     
  39. racer

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    El em may yo what an idiot.

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  40. JZCane6688

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    A lot to unpack here - first of all, he owns a business but doesn't owe taxes at EOY? Seems fishy to me. Also not sure if someone who's been unemployed for most of the past year should be off purchasing 45k+ cars, but hey that's just me
     
  41. BP

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    Im guessing he's writing off losses or some other business loophole.
     
  42. racer

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    If he was smart enough to do that he wouldn’t get burned by this. My guess is he doesn’t own a business so much as he DoorDashed a few times for $13 or took a bath on an mlm.
     
  43. afb

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    I can't seem to find more results yet, but it looks like the Mach-E issue was they couldn't find a charger that wasn't out of order so they had to plug in to a wall outlet which is why it has such a bigger discrepancy
     
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  44. racer

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    Pretty sure Taycan set the cannon ball record.

    Nm it was an ev record
     
  45. Russellin4885

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    Was wondering how it could be 5 hours difference lol. The supercharger network really is a huge difference but I will say, I think almost everyone before they get an EV over estimates by a lot how much they will need to charge away from home.
     
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  46. racer

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    The charge time is maybe 20 minutes difference. It’s the driving all over and getting out and then it not working then figuring out where to go next and repeating the cycle that gets you. For now I’m sticking to EA or other networks I’ve personally used with my own car because I’ve gotten burned a few times and wasted the hours. Planning a trip to the central Oregon coast from Iowa and I can charge at EA the entire way with only about 90 additional miles to the route vs the shortest route you could drive with gas. I’ll take it. The existing network is mostly fine, can’t wait for it to be more robust so that you don’t need as much preplanning.

    Agreed on the charging away from home. Refusing to consider a vehicle because it might add an hour to a trip you probably will never take, pulling a boat you won’t ever buy is incredibly stupid.
     
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  47. bigred77

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    Now I want an electric pontoon boat
     
  48. drewru

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    Drive a 2020 Leaf and never had an issue with rattles. At high speeds it’s going to feel like there’s more road noise with an EV, but the reality is we’re mostly just used to an ICE engine drowning out that noise.

    Lease on our Leaf ends in about a year- wanted an EV but saw that a lot of new models/tech would be available by 2022. Put a deposit on cyber truck but most likely not going that route. Tesla tech is miles ahead of everyone else and I used to be a Tesla stan, but since Elon became a billionaire douche and realizing I don’t really need anything more than 200 miles of range, has me considering one of the other pick ups.
     
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  49. Tommy Jefferson

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    I’m in the groups that is likely overestimating that. But the experiment described is my worst nightmare- trying to enjoy a nice road trip only for it to be interrupted by a search for somewhere to charge up. I’m sure there’s a good ways to see charger availability but I don’t know what it is.

    How does it work if you pull up to a location which is full? Can’t people just park the car and go eat dinner? Can you just unplug their car?
     
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