Electric Vehicles

They could travel through time though

 

Got to drive one once and I couldn’t agree more- granted it was already 30 years old, but aside from the SS skin, everything about that car felt cheap and poorly made. But there are plenty of shit cars that have been huge commercial successes.

Rivian reminds me of Saab in that Saab was great at making cars but really bad at business.

 

I saw one at a dealer a couple weeks ago and it looked nice. That’s all I got. You’re a Toyota guy though, have you looked at the bZ4X?

 

Not at that price

 

Ask anyone with an early 80s Countach what they think of the build quality of their car. And that thing sold for 8x more. In any case, I’m not saying DeLorean would have succeeded absent the big 3, just that there was no way he was going to succeed because of them. Tucker on the other hand was building far superior cars and would have succeeded if not for the big 3 and the shady shit they did to force him into bankruptcy.

Would highly recommend the Tucker movie. The guy was prophetic. Accused the big 3 of producing big, shiny turds that we’re poorly designed and unsafe and said that if the American auto industry didn’t get more competitive people would start buying European and Asian cars- which at the time was laughable.

 

JFC you're comparing a supercar from a legit supercar company to a startup that made a shit car that couldn't do 0-60 faster than 9.5sec downhill

dbl lite

 

they’re getting into the electric game
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/features/the-new-delorean-what-we-know

 

Volvo releasing EX30 (small SUV).

Wonder if it will be slightly bigger than the C40.

 

My point is, car quality does not directly correlate to commercial success, at any price point. Sorry if that wasn’t clear or somehow upset you.

 

I don’t know that they have much in common with the original company, aside from the name, but that is a pretty car.

If even half of the EV prototypes/concepts make it to market it would be awesome.

 

think they’re definitely going for the C40 cult status with it

 

What does this mean?

 

I have. I actually like what I've seen of the the Ariya better.

 

Sorry I meant c30. It was a beloved cult classic car, really the only bright spot in Ford’s horrific mismanagement of Volvo

 

Been thinking about it all week. Probably order a Mach-E within a month. I think deliveries are still like 18 weeks. So that would hit well for me. Might look a the EV6, dealer here has a few on the lot. Who’s a good video review guy to watch on EVs?

 

First delivery window narrowed to June 4-June 30.

Ideally would like to get done by June 18 when my financing offers expires.

 

best financing is pay cash

 

Lyrtch how do you like your Ioniq after a few weeks? I keep waffling back and forth and somehow I’ve come full circle back to the ioniq.

 

I’ve had it’s sister vehicle for 4 months now, and it’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned.

 

I was pretty dead set on the Y with the price drop but I mistakenly joined the model Y sub Reddit which of course is just people complaining.

 

What are some of the main complaints?

 

I’ve got the EV6, and it’s a perfect family car for us.

 

well when it comes to Tesla vision parking “assistance” they’re all right

 

my Nebraskan mother in law said “what will you guys do if the power goes out?”

 

idk probably power my house with my car for a little bit

 

Well it’s Reddit so you have to take anything with a grain of salt. The main things I’ve seen are no physical buttons, entirely relying on the center screen…which I know is common in other EV’s too like the Mach E. Also a lot of complaints on the sensors.

 

I said what if the gas stations run out of gas?

like why does she think there’s uninterruptible supply of that and not the other

 

The most annoying issue for me with the "no buttons" are windshield wipers. (assuming you dont leave them in Auto) you press the button on the stalk, but then change the speed on the screen so that's really clunky, but they just released an update where you can change the speed of them via the left button on the steering wheel which is much better.


But as far as relying on the screen in the general sense, you have to think about when you drive how often are you touching buttons? For me, almost never. Everything was always pretty much just set up and you'd only ever really adjust ac speed & temp and that's pretty much it. Volume & skip song on the steering wheel. And all of that is the same in a tesla. IMO it's an overblown talking point.

 

Tactile buttons are good and safe. Putting everything on a screen is lazy and dangerous.

 

I miss window cranks

 

it really isn't anything different, you get used to the placement just like you do tactile buttons

and like I said, I can only speak for my driving experience but I almost never change things/reach for buttons in non-EVs either

 

They’ll eventually all be flatscreens but with some kind of tactile button imo.

 

Hoping I'll have a quick learning curve with the single screen setup in the Model Y.

I am super excited though about never going back to a gas station for my vehicle again. The idea of home charging sounds great, especially working remotely. If all goes well, I'll look to have our VW Tiguan traded into an electric SUV within 3 years.

 

I think the big weird thing with the Tesla is no screen in front of you where typical gauges have been. Mach-E still has that. So from that standpoint I don’t see much changing from what I look at and touch typically on my car now. 90% set on ordering a Mach-E in July after I close on an Airbnb property.

 

It’s been trending that way. Hopefully there’s some regression

 

What trim are you going with?

 

I get this but I'd say you get pretty used to the center screen and then you really don't notice it. My one real complaint about Tesla is how bad it is with stopping while in autopilot. It comes up entirely too fast on the vehicle in front and then slams on brakes. As annoying as my ID.4 was it did this A LOT better.

 

Premium AWD Extended Range.

 

“One less thing to break” - Dad

 

the weird thing here is this hasn’t happened to me once in about 10k miles of Tesla driving. From people’s anecdotal evidence it seems to happen more often on very long flat roads with far off horizons and little other traffic. Literally in desert mirage situations

 

Physical buttons are better and safer, it’s objective fact.

 

"better" is absolutely subjective

 

Back in the 1980s I worked in the parts dept. of a MBZ/BMW/Volvo service shop and it seemed like we were always replacing window switches and motor assemblies.