Electric Vehicles

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  1. drewru

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    Would also like to commend my Nebraska brethren. Not only are you guys one of the better fanbases around, but your appreciation for EVs is awesome.

    Recently was chatting with a neighbor originally from Nebraska and she was shocked to find out how much I knew about her home state. I credited Husk TMB. She was even more surprised when I told her that you guys were largely left-leaning. She did not however find my statement regarding the superiority of Jersey sweet corn amusing.
     
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  3. ATX305

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    Have had a Model 3 and a standard home wall charger. We just moved into a new house and an electrician quoted me over $3k for a reinstall and claimed he'd have to put in a load balancer to ensure that the amps from the wall charger wouldn't fry the the breaker. Mind you, the house we just moved into is about a decade newer a build than the one we just moved from.

    Should I be shopping the job to other electricians or do I need to scrap the wall charger idea altogether?
     
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  5. Sam Elliott

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    That cost seems excessive. But, I also have no idea when and where you need to use a load balancer nor how much they cost. I would definitely shop around.

    At that price, you could just 12V charge at home and then do the occasional SuperCharger session. It would take years for the costs to balance out.
     
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  6. Biff Bridges

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    Just got home from Lincoln meeting clients in my Model 3. 150+ miles each way and it's just not a big deal. 10 min charge once I got to town, drove all over, then charged at the grocery store for 25 min and was able to get all the way home. The range anxiety issue is largely overblown unless you're a long haul trucker or live in shitholes like Mullen and Ansley and regularly drive 200+ mi/day.
     
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  7. drewru

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    Yes. No. Im not an electrician but that guy sounds like he’s full of shit. Even if he’s right, it sounds like the worst that could happen is you trip the breaker? Your app will notify you if charging is interrupted right? (Genuinely asking, not a Tesla owner). If so, would just need to reset the breaker.

    If it rarely happens, if at all, the above solution would be worth the savings. Now, if it was happening frequently, then you might want to revisit the idea of doing the full scope of work.
     
  8. ATX305

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    I thought so. I paid $99 for the service visit too.
     
  9. drewru

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    I learned the hard way to avoid service providers who charge a fee to come out for estimates. At first I figured if they were good enough to charge for a service/estimate visit, then they must be good at what they do. Paid a guy $200 to give me an estimate for a French drain. His number was more than double every other contractor I had come out.

    I figured he didn’t want the job, unless it paid off in a ridiculous way, but he was happy to make $200 for 30 minutes of his time. Sounds like you may have run into a similar situation.
     
  10. ATX305

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    We have an awesome handyman who does pretty much everything for us and just charges me by the hour. He's an electrician by trade but not insured at the moment and was uncomfortable running wire from the breaker box to the wall charger.

    I happened to land on one of the few electricians in Austin that had availability but new I was probably fucked when they mentioned the $99 fee and the fact they offered a monthly service 'subscription'. Pretty sure the guy they sent out was a sales guy masquerading as an electrician.
     
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  11. drewru

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    Gonna go ahead and say your instincts were probably spot on
     
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  12. Russellin4885

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    Guys full of shit. If your worried about it at all install a Nema 6-20 outlet. That is a 20 amp breaker, which will 99% chance be fine from a load standpoint. Little slower charging, about 15 miles per hour but fast enough that'll get you charged up over night. That's what I'm installing at my beach house actually cause it'll get me charged up fine and it's just a lot easier to pull 12 gauge wire, and also a lot cheaper.
     
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  13. ATX305

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    Do you just connect the drip charger to the 6-20 outlet?
     
  14. Russellin4885

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    not sure what your referring to as a drip charger, you just need to get a 6-20 adapter from Tesla, they sale lots of different variations depending on what outlet you want to use.
     
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  16. Sam Elliott

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  17. Sam Elliott

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    Hopefully Tesla gets the initial glitches out of the way for the Semi truck model. These things are going to replace diesel quickly.



     
  18. PAHokie

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    Whole post doesn’t load for me so not sure if all of this pops up on TMB without clicking it.
     
  19. Tommy Jefferson

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    The people who drive a cyber truck are going to be 1%ers on the douche bag/look at me scale. I hate them all, even before those monstrosities hit the roads in 2029.
     
  20. Sam Elliott

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    I've never understood the hype. It's super ugly and now has the Silverado and Lightning to compete against because it took so long to deploy.
     
  21. Russellin4885

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    I'm sure it'll be pretty kick ass from a pure spec point of view, but fuck being seen in that ugly ass thing. Also, just too many good EV options coming out in the next 5 years.
     
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    This ^^^
     
  23. Nelson

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    Nissan going NACS with the ariya next year
     
  24. Detlef Schrempf

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    Cyber truck has to be the dumbest looking vehicle ever manufactured
     
  25. Sam Elliott

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    Every day Volkswagen holds out is a day further it takes them away from being competitive with EVs.
     
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  26. Russellin4885

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    What's even the point? Writing is on the wall and it's inevitable.
     
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  27. Clemson327

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    *For short hauls. Long haul trucking still isn’t a great option for BEV trucks due to the high energy demands. The hydrogen infrastructure needs to be developed quickly so that fuel cell trucks can take over that market.
     
  28. Nelson

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    tesla really needs to do a big van that can be kitted to both recreational and last-mile delivery. Similar size to the Rivian Amazon van. Thing would do insane numbers
     
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  29. Nelson

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    Apparently some researchers found a way to do room temperature and ambient pressure superconductor. Some saying it may be bullshit, others saying it looks legit. If legit, would be absolutely game changing, especially for EVs.

     
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  30. Nelson

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    Good thread explaining the implications

     
  31. PAHokie

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    F150 price dropped $10k. Now I’m tempted again.
     
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    Too little too late ford!
     
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  33. Nelson

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    So what, now dealer markups will be $40k instead of $30k?
     
  34. PAHokie

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    No, I’m seeing a lot of reports of them sitting on the lot. So I’m pretty sure I could order one at MSRP now.
     
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  35. NineteenNine

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    Dealer markups are a thing of the past.
     
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  36. rulethirty

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    I've owned 2 teslas and a plug in hybrid mini-van.

    The Ford Lightning isn't just better than all three of those; it's probably my favorite vehicle I've ever owned, period.

    I don't tow things much, but I haul stuff a lot, and it's almost no hit to the battery. I live in a warm climate that's pretty flat. I occasionally drive 12 hours to the mountains though, and charging on the road has been fine and it performs pretty well in the mountains.

    CyberTruck missed its window and will be a total douche mobile. Kind of like the OG non-military hummer where the only people who had one came across as trying way, way too hard.
     
  37. Nelson

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    BMW GM Honda Hyundai Kia MB and Stellantis just announced a DC fast charger network that will have NACS and CCS plugs. Aiming for 30k by 2030. Nice
     
  38. Sam Elliott

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    This is awesome news. I'll be curious how long it would take to make it commercialized and bring to market across all types of charging applications.
     
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  39. Russellin4885

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    It's pricey but Out of Spec just did a highway range test on the Mercedes EQS. Pretty full size SUV getting 376 miles of range is impressive. At that range your really not sacrificing much at all compared to an ICE vehicle.

     
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  40. Sam Elliott

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    Consistent performance at 300 miles of range or more is the sweet spot to jump from ICE to EV.

    Get closer to 400 and you have a real winner, especially in the SUV category.
     
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  41. Tommy Jefferson

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    Starting at $105,000
     
  42. Name P. Redacted

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    You poor or something? Think of the gas savings!
     
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  43. Tommy Jefferson

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    I don’t typical think of myself as a poor but 80% of these cool new EVs are wildly priced.
     
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  44. Nelson

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    apparently everything needed is off the shelf except the exact type of mineral lol
     
  45. PAHokie

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    What, if any, options do you have? Is it worth it to order with bed liner or cover from dealer? Other thing I was looking as was the max tow package, doesn’t seem necessary for me. I’ve never had a truck so I don’t anticipate major towing.
     
  46. TheBabyShrimp

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    Not directed to me out I'll give my two cents. I got max towing because it gives you a secondary cooling system. Not sure if I'll ever need it but figured it would be nice just in case.

    I really like the floor mats I got. I got under seat storage but with 3 car seats at all times I haven't used it yet. My previous 3 trucks had bed covers but I haven't missed it in this truck. I mostly use the frunk and when we went to the beach we just packed clothes in 3 totes I got from Costco.

    My first spray in bed liner experience. No complaints yet. Screenshot_20230728-103926.png
     
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  47. rulethirty

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    I have a lariat with a bed liner. Everything else stock I think but with a couple deletes from the chip shortage (I don't have heated steering wheels or the smart scale in the bed). I do think it has the max tow package but I think that's generally stock with the lariat (can't remember)

    You can find people outside of ford to do the liner cheaper. In my case, the dealership I used was going to outsource it to the same place, so they just charged me what they pay and I ended up maybe saving a little on it.

    I didn't pay a markup or anything. Straight MSRP. Just hold the line if they try.
     
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  48. PAHokie

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    No doubt, it’s already more than I’d like to spend, but I think it’s worth it vs the Mach E now. The dealer I’ll go through shouldn’t be too much of a hassle. Same group I bought my first car from and they were doing no haggle pricing back then.
     
  49. Sam Elliott

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    Summary of two months of Model Y ownership:

    • I continue to remain obsessed with the Y, it's everything I wanted in an EV. The transition from ICE has been so easy, none of my worries have come close to happening.
    • As a daily driver (under 30 miles/day), the Y fits my routine perfectly. On average, I never use more than 15% of the battery during the week and 20% on the weekend.
    • In total, the app says it's cost me $54 in electricity, compared to $185 in gas. I think the ratio is off a bit, but savings of $100+ already in a month is a nice ROI.
    • August will be busy with my first long distance trips of 1.5, 2, and 4 hours.
    • Charging has been seamless. Because of my habits, I've used the 12a regular wall plug for all charging overnight. 15% seems to be my target for a full overnight charge to 80%. I tried superchargers twice to test, very easy. Looking forward to using them more often with travel.
    • Cons - there is definitely some extra battery drain in the extreme Florida summer heat with how much AC usage I have. That being said, I'm still under 1k miles driven and would like to break the Y's tires in more to see if that helps. Also, Supercharger rates in my area are high ($0.39/kwh), that is triple what I pay at home. I'd like to see their rate lower to be competitive with gas.
    • Overall, cannot complain if that's it.
     
  50. PAHokie

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    I might be off as I just woke up, but still probably 40% less?