Who doesn't want to work for a company where you can be freely called the n-word 50+ times then said owner of the company tells folks not to be so sensitive once the news gets out about it and lawsuit happens
You laugh but you all are highly dismissive on how difficult building businesses is. And yes, I detect resentment. Isn’t leftist ideology based in resentment of the capitalist class at its core?
Musk sucks mostly because he’s an arbitrage baby that has provided little to no value at any of the companies he’s hailed as founding. His code was laughable at x.com (or whatever it was called), his management is terrible at Tesla, and he routinely breaks laws without repercussion. At least Zuck, Bezos, et al built the products/platforms people hate them for. Musk just won board battles/bought his way into everything.
People’s feelings are hurt over having tweets flagged or being banned for breaking Twitters rules. It’s the biggest problem facing our society today obviously.
Because he is what dorks think is cool and everyone in Washington at their core is a dork. and he is good at selling stories about saving the planet
it's not resentment. it's understanding the exploitative nature of capitalism. we all get it, you're like the "as a father of a daughter" guy but for the business folks
I can’t remember the last time you responded to something substantively and weren’t dancing / deflecting with some combination of: “telling” “thanks for confirming” “oh hey look at this guy saying x trope” Sad really
All I want to say is when the rich folks start leaving the planet in mass once the Earth is uninhabitable I hope someone related to me is launching the RPG's to blow their rocketships up
Perhaps owning a company where you’re a good steward of your finances, employees, and values is more impressive than a win at all cost approach to business
This needs to be used more as evidence that Gov't investing is a massive success in innovation. I wish it could be done without hyping up Musk tho
you picked two random things that don't really have anything to do with the right/left binary and aren't even broadly true within the groups you assigned to make your point. it was a dim attempt at understanding politics which is literally what I said is how you get to position yourself the way you do.
This should be sent to every high school teacher in the country to use as an example of why using big words and convoluted sentence structure doesn’t make you actually sound intelligent or help drive home a point you’re trying to make
Lol the “first mover” road is littered with dead bodies. MySpace, etc…stick to politics. BTW Lyrtch i get your father / daughter barb, but I only say it because I think most of the loud guys in here are mostly disaffected employees who hate their job and / or have been wronged by a company / supervisor at some point. Most of their business analysis comes from journalism majors at jacobin (generalizing for brevity!). I feel empathy, fucking sucks and not sure I wouldn’t feel the same but it’s an incomplete one-sided viewpoint. Building a multi-billion dollars business is orders of magnitude harder I think most people realize.
i fundamentally don't care about the trials and tribulations of the capitalist class. also the idea that the latter post has big words in it or is complicated is a truly bizarre claim. I get it, you're still mad about discussions we've had in the past, but at least make sense.
What a cool world we live in where musk isn’t even close to as bad as another shitty billionaire (zuck) And those two make the other shitty billionaires like bezos and gates not look as shitty in comparison capitalism is cool
sure there are exceptions to every rule, I didn’t say Bezos wasn’t capable, just that he was at the right place right time to do what he did
I picked four very dumb statements that political extremists on both sides of the spectrum say on Twitter routinely. Happens all the time, they seem dumb because that’s where discourse is at the moment I’m afraid.
Starting certain businesses when you have nothing or nearly nothing (and do things like mortgage your house etc) is hard, being an innovator is hard (if one truly is an innovator). Musk doesn’t do much of that. being a CEO of an already started and growing thing is not so hard. And the monstrous gaps between the avg worker and CEOs at this juncture is so fucking large it makes me vomit. We are completely out of control and worshipping guys like musk (for those that do) is part of how we got here and how we seem poised to get much worse take a closer look at what he actually personally innovated or created, I think you will be less impressed compare him to gates if you like, and you will end up in agreement he’s not nearly as much of a genius as people make him out to be
But saying right place right time diminishes the accomplishment - you know what you were trying to do. Super reductive
Why are the business owners pound for pound some of the most defensive people on TMB? This thread is about Elon Musk, not you
NASA "failures" don't pose a single risk to the taxpayers because tax dollars don't fund the federal government
again, you're just confirming that your political calculations are based on the absolute minimum of knowledge. being like "i saw this on tumblr so it's representative" is silly. I understand you think this is me being dismissive, but am I supposed to steel man an entire argument for you based on nothing? our society would work much better if the worker class understood their relationship to the capitalist class should be adversarial in all aspects, because the capitalist class shows constantly that they understand that dynamic
If we're being honest, lots of businesses in this country are owned by idiots. They're sports fans at heart, and the team they're rooting for in this thread is "business owners."