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I’m 36 and BIG and PAC are incredibly important to me and my love of rap music. I think MBDTF goes toe to toe with Strictly for My Niggaz, All Eyez On Me, RTD and LAD easily and I don’t think that’s a controversial take anywhere outside of this thread

 

There's no album in the history of music that could top a Pac/Big greatest hits album.

 

No offense man but I’m not gonna take your opinion on this matter to heart

 

I won't argue that. It was a great album. But he didn't say "It's as good as any album Pac/Big made" he said their entire discography, meaning the sum of all of their music. At least that's how I took it.

 

I mean he even rips him about not having his facts right when trying to diss Em.

 

All Eyez on Me is head and shoulders better and Me Against the World is probably better or at the very least equal to, as well. Ready to Die is also better.

 

You do you man.

 

If that’s what he meant, then there’s definitely more of a discussion to be had. If he’s talking on an album to album basis then there’s merit to it

 

I agree with all of this but I don't think someone that has MBDTF as equals is crazy. It's all opinion. MBDTF was a damn good album. I might turn it on now actually.

Oh and Me Against the World > All Eyez On Me

 

Agree to disagree is all I got then. I don’t think any album they did is “head and shoulders better” than mbdtf. I think there’s definitely a discussion here

 

Na, if that's what he meant, there's no discussion to be had. The sum of Pac/Big would destroy MBDTF. I might sit down and make a Pac/Big greatest hits album playlist.

 

Case to be made for that, for sure. Opinion, though. I think All Eyez on Me is one of the best albums ever made.

I know dick about ranker but I think this is a reasonable list.

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/best-hip-hop-albums

 

Fair enough I suppose. I’ll propose that if you take the sum of Kanye’s 3 best albums, it destroys what you would come up with

 

MMLP2 is really good.

Recovery is not. I think he's even subtly admitted that in subsequent albums.

 

Nah

 

Agreed. Absolutely no discussion to be had if he is saying it's better than the sum of their work.

 

Challenge accepted?

 

I just prefer the more thoughtful Pac than the mad at the world Pac. Everyone remembers Pac as the Death Row Pac and he was only on Death Row for less than a year before he died. I just prefer the more thought provoking Pac over the fuck the East Coast Pac. All Eyez on Me's production is amazing though.

 

Its not great by any means but its not trash. At least not to me.

 

Here's his greatest hits album, which may or may not be the best list. Kanye hasn't done one thing that is as good as Brenda's Got a Baby.

1. "Keep Ya Head Up" Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (1993) 4:22
2. "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" (featuring Snoop Doggy Dogg) All Eyez on Me (1996) 4:07
3. "Temptations" Me Against the World (1995) 5:00
4. "God Bless the Dead" (featuring Stretch) previously unreleased 4:22
5. "Hail Mary" (featuring Outlawz & Prince Ital Joe) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996) 5:12
6. "Me Against the World" (featuring Dramacydal & Puff Johnson) Me Against the World 4:39
7. "How Do U Want It" (featuring K-Ci & JoJo; some lyrics are censored from the original album version) All Eyez on Me 4:48
8. "So Many Tears" Me Against the World 3:58
9. "Unconditional Love" previously unreleased 3:59
10. "Trapped" (Some lyrics are censored from the original album version) 2Pacalypse Now (1991) 4:44
11. "Life Goes On" All Eyez on Me 5:01
12. "Hit 'Em Up" (featuring Outlawz) How Do U Want It single (1996) 5:12
Disc 2
No. Title Source album Length
1. "Troublesome '96" previously unreleased 4:36
2. "Brenda's Got a Baby" (featuring Dave Hollister & Roniece) 2Pacalypse Now (1991) 3:53
3. "I Ain't Mad at Cha" (featuring Danny Boy) All Eyez on Me (1996) 4:53
4. "I Get Around" (featuring Digital Underground) Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (1993) 4:19
5. "Changes" (featuring Talent) previously unreleased 4:29
6. "California Love" ((listed as California Love (Original Version on tracklist.) Original version; featuring Dr. Dre and Roger Troutman) All Eyez on Me (UK version) 4:45
7. "Picture Me Rollin" (featuring Danny Boy, CPO, Big Syke) All Eyez on Me 5:14
8. "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" (with Thug Life; featuring Nate Dogg) Thug Life: Volume 1 (1994) 3:52
9. "Toss It Up" (featuring K-Ci & JoJo, Danny Boy, Aaron Hall; a new mix with some altered lyrics) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996) 4:42
10. "Dear Mama" Me Against the World (1995) 4:40
11. "All Bout U" (featuring Nate Dogg, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Hussein Fatal, Yaki Kadafi & Dru Down; posthumous remix) All Eyez on Me 4:36
12. "To Live & Die in L.A." (featuring Val Young) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory 4:32
13. "Heartz of Men"

 

I think you're nuts for thinking that. It's all opinion and you are obviously a bigger Kanye fan than I am so it's whatever. I'd take Pac and Big individually over Kanye, personally. But I'm a little older so we're talking personal eras here.

 

I like Trusty but its pretty obvious he is a Kanye fanatic and nothing will change his opinion on this.

 

I'm going to listen to this now thanks thread and yes I am replying to myself gfy

 

I absolutely adore Pac and Big, if we’re talking greatest rappers of all time, they absolutely shit on Kanye, when we’re talking body of work, Kanye’s is in the upper echelon regardless of genre

 

I did this yesterday. 22 years, man. 22 years. Feels like 5 years ago.

 

I’m a Jay Z and Kendrick fanatic. I just hold Yes work to a high regard

 

I'm confused. They each shit on Kanye as GOAT's but Kanye's top 3 albums would be better than a compilation of Pac and Big's entire discography? That doesn't make sense.

 

Stankonia over Aquemini? List sucks. Also, no way Aquemini is only the 24th best rap album.

 

They're right next to each other and yeah you can push it up some but any of those albums can make that claim.

 

There’s a difference here man. Nas imo is higher in the GOAT discussion than any of these guys when it comes to pure skill, yet, his albums are pretty dicey outside illmatic and stillmatic. The skill doesn’t always make the music

 

Aquemini is number 1 own my personal list. When I saw it that far down I immediately dismissed this list. That list has a heavy west coast lean as well

 

His new one with Kanye is pretty good

 

Yeah Aquemini is my number 1 too. Stankonia is my fourth favorite OutKast album.

 

It has a heavy West Coast lean because Pac/Dre/Snoop/Ice Cube and NWA are all better than Kanye.

 

I like it

 

Ok man

 

You right you right

 

Fuck a mumble rapper.

 

Man you took the safe way outta this one lol

 

Well that was certainly a response and that beat is sick.

 

Nas gets overrated bc of Illmatic imo. He's Ickey Woods of rap.

And personally I'll take RTD, MATW, and All Eyez over whatever 3 Kanye albums you want to pick.

 

I think that’s a bit of me misinterpreting wtx post and I think I rectified that. MBDTF is not better than the sum of their work but it holds steady on an album to album basis imo

 

Maybe fuckin this Will wake him from his slumber.