EPL 2019-2020 - Where VAR is run by a 12 year old

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  1. TheFreak55

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  2. RavenNole

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    I don’t know what a “key call” is but the spurs could have had multiple calls go against them in games where the call that went against them didn’t have an impact on the points. You could argue that they can have an impact on how the game would have gone, but that table will look at a call against you in a 3-1 win or 3-1 loss as meaningless.
     
  3. RavenNole

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    de gea has been good this season. His mistakes/bad goals are just really bad goals that cause an uproar and are memorably bad. Henderson and Leno were the top 2 keepers in the league this season IMO when factoring in the team around them.
     
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    True point. At the same time, timing of the call impacts the game flow. There was one match I can't recall where we were up 1-0, scored again before the end of the first half (?) and then VAR overturned it I think unfairly, and then we lost 2-1. My memory and sense of time are shot but that's ringing a bell. Momentum changes how the rest of the match plays out.

    edit: I realize that 2-2 with a correctly called goal technically equals a 1 point difference on the table, but the game likely flows to a win after a classic Mou bus-parking.
     
  5. Andy Reocho

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    Dubravka was better than Leno :twocents:
     
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  6. RavenNole

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    I watched more of Arsenal and Sheffield United this season than Newcastle so that could be my bias talking. Dubravka had a fantastic season and should be in that conversation. I think I give Leno extra points for playing behind David luiz.
     
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  7. Andy Reocho

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    Then you should give Dubravka more for playing behind Newcastle lol
     
  8. TheFreak55

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    Leno would never
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  9. Andy Reocho

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    :eyeroll:
     
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    Both are owned by United :warn:
     
  11. TheFreak55

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    :hilldawg:
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  12. Dick Dollars

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    Leicester away, and Poch was still around.
     
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    Ah then it would have been a 2-1 asshole-clenching. Away was not our 2019-calendar-year strong suit, so perhaps we were always meant to lose the match.
     
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  14. Topper Bottoms

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    The not overturning the Son red card was the most egregious example of non-VAR against Spurs otherwise I don't care much for the VAR whinging. Everyone got fucked.
     
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    That’s okay. There were two other VAR calls that went your way in that game (dele handball and denial of goal scoring red)
     
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    dynamite job by uefa using doctored emails for their case
     
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  18. SugarShaun

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    This was an enjoyable read
     
  19. Tobias

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    good bit of business

     
  20. NYGator

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    I believe this weighs the impact of wrong decisions. The other is just total decisions with no regard for whether they got it right. The other is really a misleading and useless stat.
     
  21. RavenNole

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    Poor Newcastle
     
  22. Owsley

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    I mean, it sucks Mike Ashley still owns them but it’s a win not becoming another blood money club.
     
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  23. RavenNole

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    I severely doubt that the average Newcastle fan gives a shit about becoming a blood money club if they could actually compete for top 4 and titles in the future.
     
  24. YNWA

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    Sucks for Newcastle but football clubs should not be backed by foreign governments, especially the Saudis.
     
  25. Andy Reocho

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    I just want to have an owner/operator that understands what he's doing. Mike Ashley is a businessman who has made his means in very shitty ways, and only bought Newcastle to make money.
     
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  26. Owsley

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    I read a little while ago that he gets to pocket a 17m (I think) deposit after the Saudis backed out :laugh:
     
  27. Andy Reocho

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    There was a deposit/exclusivity deal from the jump. Unfortunately there's not really anyone ITK on Newcastle's side that's reliable.
     
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  28. RavenNole

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    I don’t want another country owning a team but I would like to see a club like Newcastle get some stability and be a mid table side who can make a Europa league run here and there.
     
  29. NineteenNine

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    Newcastle and Everton should always be top half teams that challenge for top 4 from time to time imo.
     
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    We are trying. People just can’t handle the weight of the Everton badge. Turn to piles of shit the moment the step foot in finch farm.
     
  31. SugarShaun

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    Was reading an old Athletic article about stats from early in the break and looked at one of the stats he says we should.


    1) Thou shalt not use save percentage to evaluate a goalkeeper’s shot-stopping ability
    Example: “Martin Dubravka has been the eighth best shot-stopper in the Premier League this season with a save percentage of 73.9 per cent”

    Why it’s misleading: The equation for save percentage is shots saved/total shots faced. Straight away, there’s no accounting for the difference in the type and quality of shots that a goalkeeper faces, which will have a large impact on his ability to make a save, and therefore, his save percentage.

    Goalkeeper X facing 10 shots from inside the six-yard box is going to have a tougher time making saves compared to Goalkeeper Y, who’s facing all of his ten shots from 30 yards out or more.

    Expected Goals and its cousin, Expected Goals on Target, tell us that shots from further away are less likely to result in a goal and shots that are either right at the keeper or down the middle are more likely to be saved. Anyone reading who has watched enough football will, of course, tell you the same thing.

    By equally weighting each shot to calculate save percentage, we are doing a disservice to Goalkeeper X and making Goalkeeper Y look better than they actually might be.
    What to use instead: Comparing the quality of on-target shots by using Expected Goals on Target (or Post-Shot Expected Goals) to the number of goals conceded, which I’ve written about previously here, adds much needed context to a goalkeeper’s numbers.

    Goals Prevented tells us how many goals a goalkeeper saved given the quality of shots he’s faced, compared to the average goalkeeper. Through doing this, Martin Dubravka looks far better than his save percentage says he is, and Vicente Guaita looks like a world-beater

    Here’s how the final tally looked
     
  32. TheFreak55

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  34. Wu

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    New EPL season thread...

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  36. Andy Reocho

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  37. derfish

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    Since there isn’t a thread for next season yet, I’ll put this here.



    Also, say goodbye to the water breaks.
     
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  40. TheFreak55

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    see the check from SAF cleared
     
  41. Illinihockey

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    The same dumb process now with less transparency. Great
     
  42. WillySaliba

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    Yeah removing the lines doesn’t confuse anyone. It helps point out how fucking stupid they are.

    Also I really do hope they remain the same for handballs. I think that’s the one of the only things they seem consistent on. Now that’s my interpretation, if someone posts a 19 minute YouTube video of horrendous hand ball calls from last season, I’m sorry.
     
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  44. Illinihockey

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    thats a really good list of players and makes me wonder why England isn’t better in international competition
     
  45. TheFreak55

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    Antho is 25.....:laugh:
     
  46. TheFreak55

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  47. BleedinGreen

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    It’s always so weird when guys that have been around forever get nominated for this.

    Also the correct answer is TAA.
     
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  48. SugarShaun

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    Think the cutoff is being 24 at the start of the season. Sterling won it last year

    Edit: It’s 23 at the start of the season. He’s only 24
     
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    The age cutoff should either be much younger OR they should restrict eligibility to only the player’s first full season (partial if they play X number of matches / minutes) in the PL.
     
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  50. PeterGriffin

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    I think it'd be cool to have a 12th Man award. Players qualify only if they start 1/3 or less of their total appearances.
     
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