From a purely mathematical perspective, the original list is dead-on for competitive trophies over all-time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...and_by_competitive_honours_won#Summary_totals And to illini’s point, Arsenal does approach the historic success of Pool/Utd while Chelsea is closer to the last two. Spurs at 26 are well clear of infinitesimal clubs that history barely remembers like Villa (25) and Everton (24).
Did anyone really used to give a shit about the FA Community Shield? 16 of those seem to be padding Arsenal’s stats here. Clearly very good domestically, not great in Europe.
If my club only had 4, I’d say the same. Like those Champions League trophies, who even pays attention to that 3rd rate competition
Yeah it’s dumb to treat them equally. Sunderland’s 6 first division titles > Tottenham’s 2. End of story
They can be in their own tier I guess. United/Pool/gap/Arse/gap/Chelsea/gap/City/Spurs. It’s disheartening to me that this current disappointment of an Arsenal team still pulls the odd trophy.
Dias wins PL Player of the Season over Kane, okay, debatable. KdB wins PFA though? Uh how? Kane scored as many goals as matches that KdB started. He more than doubled goal contributions and had more assists of course, having won the Golden Boot and Playmaker awards, last done before the turn of the century.
It's amazing how a movie made Millwall so famous to Americans with their miniscule amount of time the club has spent in the top flight.
It's a pretty sensible rule when discussing a clubs historical value. That's what distinguishes Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United from the rest. Those clubs have been successful over a century from a multitude of factors. Chelsea's historical value consists of a 18 year stretch based off the pockets of one man.
20 years is a reasonable fraction of history, and 6 major European Cups is more than none. But I do see your point.
I mean, shouldn't you be desperately pleading to view college programs on a historical basis as an Arkansas fan?
Fair enough. My question on Top 6 was influenced by thinking about college football tiers and the differences between programs that have generally been great in the past and great now (Bama, Ohio State) vs. programs that are great now but not great in the past (Clemson) vs. programs that were great in the past but are not good now (Nebraska). Clearly recency bias will focus more on the first two groups, but the latter group can be underappreciated sometimes.
Has there been an announcement on stadium capacity for 21/22? One for other leagues? Who is starting next seasons thread? Is Wu gonna rise like Lord Vader just in the nick of time and disappear again?
In the Euro preview show yesterday, they had Clattenburg on explaining it. It's gonna just be one line, with no protractor angles coming out and no zooming in. Kind of what MLS is doing with theirs, which is good
I believe I'm in the minority, but I absolutely want to see their process and the zooming in, moving, etc. I do not find it confusing or distracting. TBH, I believe its more convincing and trustworthy than just seeing a zoomed out, final, and now thicker line.
we live with mistakes by the players i am fine with living with the mistakes of the refs if you have to have replay, you get like 5 secs to view it or something. if you can’t tell in one or two replays, it wasn’t clear and obvious and you stick with the original call
God I hate this take. Players make mistakes because they're competing I agree on the other part though. If it is a 30 second max for clear and convincing, that's fine
i would rather live with the occasional mistake from the refs than live with some technology that continues to also mistakes while also sucking the life out of the game because no goal can be celebrated until some garbage video review