Fedora Thread: TRUE defenders of THE enlightenment

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  1. TwoPoor

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    This is probably the dumbest post in board history
     
  2. Rabid

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    The point being, we aren't paying for the programs we currently have.
     
  3. AlternativeFactsRule

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    I’m getting rid of a substantial portion of the defense budget and I am doing away with corporate welfare.

    You’ll also love my views on fair tax rates for the highest earners. In that respect, my budgeting will be much more conservative than the republicans’ have been. #BalanceTheBudgetByRaisingRevenue
     
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  4. Rabid

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    I'm for cutting the defense budget. "Corporate Welfare" seems like a very generic term. There are definitely places like the Ag bill that have ample opportunity to effect change. If you're talking about fine details of the tax code like depreciation schedules, etc that is just going to be too boring for message board fodder.
     
  5. Redav

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    Like "Libertarian?" :awesomeface:
     
  6. Redav

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  7. AlternativeFactsRule

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    Putting the Aryan in libertaryan
     
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  8. Spike 80DF

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    As someone who owns Revolution and End The Fed, that's fucking gross.
     
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  9. Rabid

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    Can somebody please define cultural marxism for me like I'm an idiot? I've seen the term a lot but I've never cared enough to figure out what people actually mean by it.
     
  10. TwoPoor

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    Only idiots think it's an actual thing
     
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  11. Rabid

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    So if you were an idiot that thought it was an actual thing, what would it mean?
     
  12. TwoPoor

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    As far as I can tell, a rejection of traditional hierarchies of race and sex. Feminism, rejection of eurocentrism and white supremacy, and LGBT rights are all things I see get hit with that label on the regular.
     
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  13. Dairy Queen

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    It’s code for the Jews and browns are encroaching on our white christian nation
     
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  14. MoJo

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    Basically equality of outcome...
     
  15. TwoPoor

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    How the fuck is equality of economic outcome cultural Marxism
     
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  16. MoJo

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    Where did I put anything about economics and why are you so irate about something only idiots believe is an actual thing?
     
  17. TwoPoor

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    Because i'm pretty sure you think it's a thing. But what outcome are you talking about, if not your material position
     
  18. MoJo

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    If it's not a thing why are you hell bent delineating cultural from economic, by your own reasoning it should be impossible to do.

    How do you define something you believe only idiots think exist? What does that make you?

    You said these things, not me...
     
  19. AlternativeFactsRule

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    What outcomes are we quantifying in this country that aren’t fundamentally economic? Nobody is talking about sporting events.
     
  20. AlternativeFactsRule

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    MoJo clearly thinks cultural Marxism is a thing. Ask him to define it for you Rabid
     
  21. MoJo

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    Rabid 's a smart guy, he'll probably figure it out on his own (Google)
     
  22. AlternativeFactsRule

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    I’m dumb and google couldn’t adequately explain it to me. Maybe you could since you think it’s a real thing.
     
  23. Rabid

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  24. MoJo

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    It wouldn't solve your base problem; both Google and I could explain it to you, not understand it for you.
     
  25. TwoPoor

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    I can define unicorns, the Hogwarts academy of magic, Pizzagate, and a bunch of other things I don't think exist. You understand how imagination and abstract thought work, yes?
     
  26. AlternativeFactsRule

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    I have zero patience for people that like to blame others for their racism/misogyny. That’s what “cultural Marxism” is - angry white men that are so afraid of women and minorities being treated like people that they invent some left wing conspiracy (you know it’s a sinister left wing plot because it includes “marxism” - the ultimate boogeyman) to explain their feelings of impotence. It’s exclusively used by people that lack any kind of understanding of Marx.
     
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  27. AlternativeFactsRule

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    Give it a shot. Don’t sell yourself short. You might be a better teacher than google.
     
  28. AlternativeFactsRule

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    “I am being told I should think of women and minorities as being human.

    Must be some left wing plot to destroy America”

    - user MoJo
     
  29. Rabid

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    I generally try to steer clear of culture war bullshit. If I open twitter and the first 3-4 posts I see are dealing with latest flare up I'm:
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  30. MoJo

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    What exactly do you not think exists, because the idea of cultural marxism definitely exists. I didn't start it, I didn't define it and I can't point to a movement but the idea definitely is real. I'm not sure how you can say otherwise.
     
  31. MoJo

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    "I like to accuse people of bigotry as soon as I possibly can to gain the moral high ground"

    -user AlternativeFactsRule
     
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  32. AlternativeFactsRule

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    That’s what it is. You should still be informed about it though, because that line of thinking is what guides our current president. When Trump talks about immigration, that’s Stephen Miller’s handiwork. When he talks about “his base” he’s referring to people that believe in “cultural Marxism”. They believe that Democrats, Hollywood, and the media are working together to overthrow America and deny white men their rightful place in charge of it.

    You knew that morons were running the country, but you should understand that fear and anger that drives their stupidity
     
  33. AlternativeFactsRule

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    You're the one that came blazing in to say cultural Marxism was a real thing. If you have decided to change your mind on that, by all means do so. Until then, I’ll just lump you in with the guy that shopped that cartoon that Ron Paul thought was so great.
     
  34. TwoPoor

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    I don't believe it is a nefarious coordinated force, nor is it a coherent ideological project. If it were, you would have told us what you're so scared of in regards to it by now.

    I believe that to the extent it actually exists, it is only how mediocre white dudes interpret the radical belief that women and browns are actual people. It exists only in the minds of those incel dipshits that shriek about it on lonely man message boards.
     
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  35. MoJo

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    Just lump everyone that doesn't agree with you together then, make baseless accusations, you're inferring what you want into my posts anyway. I never said it was real thing I only defined the idea's end goal, then you took offense and now you're in here guns blazing insinuating I'm racist and sexist. That's just a poor m.o.
     
  36. Rabid

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    I avoid culture wars because as much of a moron as Trump is, he is right that Hollywood is full of morons.
     
  37. AlternativeFactsRule

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    If you think there’s an end goal to an ideology, then you think that ideology exists.
     
  38. MoJo

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    What am I scared about again? Don't remember that one. I definitely believe my brown mother is real, as is anywhere from 5-10 family members that are in this country illegally. Lastly, my wife, who may or may not be stingy at times, is also real.
     
  39. AlternativeFactsRule

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    Yeah but Hollywood morons are the type of morons that think pretending to be other people deserves a night of celebration where the country tells them how awesome they are.

    Trump is the kind of moron that thinks brown people are dangerous and thinks that every day everyone should tell him how awesome he is for trying to get rid of them.

    They aren’t on the same level.
     
  40. MoJo

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    The ideology definitely exists, I mean there's no plainer way to say it. I get you don't like it, but your anger towards me is irrational.
     
  41. AlternativeFactsRule

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    So we’re back to you believing that “cultural Marxism” is a real movement.

    But you won’t explain it anybody.
     
  42. MoJo

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  43. AlternativeFactsRule

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    You can’t say the ideology exists if you only believe it exists as a fantasy in the minds of racist incels.

    You either believe that there is a coordinated push by universities, Hollywood, and the Democrats to fundamentally alter America to the detriment of white me or you don’t. If you don’t, then the ideology doesn’t exist. If you do, well ... I think we’ve covered what that means pretty well by now.
     
  44. MoJo

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    So now you're redefining what an ideology is? Ok chief...

    Hopefully you're wrong and there is a movement, by your "definition" my life only stands to get better.
     
  45. AlternativeFactsRule

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    For an ideology to exist, someone has to actually believe in it.

    It would be like if I said that libertarians and the Koch brothers and Elon Musk all believed in an ideology called Cybertronian economics whose end goal was to replace 98% of the human population with sentient robots that turn into cars. And then if TwoPoor came in here and said, “cybertronian economics is a real ideology that wants to replace people with sentient robot cars.” You’d rightly call him a moron. Just because some idiot like me says something exists doesn’t make it so.

    “Cultural Marxism” is not an ideology that exists.
     
  46. MoJo

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    theriner69er
     
  47. MoJo

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    Enough people believe in it to fill at least 10 pages of search engine results.

    You're talking about a movement, that's different than ideology.

    There is one google entry for cybertronian economics, I'm not going to look at it.
     
  48. AlternativeFactsRule

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    No I am not. An ideology that nobody actually believes in isn’t an ideology. You don’t get to invent beliefs for other people and claim that those beliefs are then real.
    Wait, really?
     
  49. Rabid

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    This is fantastic.
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  50. Fran Tarkenton

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    just wanted to post this here, pump some life into this millennial fantasy

     
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