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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by laxjoe, Jan 24, 2020.
If true, you absolutely deserved those calls go against you (and much worse)
Castrate and burn alive anyone involved
can we roll this over to LSU as well and vacate that deep dicking that occurred 2 weeks ago
Sexual predator Granderson
Bounty gate Payton
If you had told me a scandal like this broke, but you did not tell me the team, the saints would be my first guess
It is a disease
I'm on board with the idea that the Saints shouldn't be doing any of this at all, but what is actually alleged isn't aiding and abetting crimes, nor is it attempting to cover up the crimes. Looks like they were trying to help the catholic church rehab its image following the scandal (something it probably had experience doing following Bounty-gate). This is the type of shit marketing firms do for a living.
I guess I'll reserve the right to be wrong as more information comes out, but it strikes me as a plaintiffs lawyer trying to sensationalize some weird side project for the Saints. Don't see why the Saints were doing it and fuck the Catholic church, but I see this as weird and sleazy, not horrific.
sure, whatever, but now trying to brush it under the rug? I guess they don't feel so great about it and don't want anyone seeing it
Word choice is poor...
Well yeah because they know it's a bad look for them. Like the plaintiff's attorney said: “The Saints realize that if the documents at issue are made public, this professional sports organization also will be smearing itself.”
More great word choice.
How could this happen? It says Saints right in the team name
Sensational headline is sensational...the owner, who appears to be a friend of Catholic head honcho in NOLA, loaning out a senior comms person for strategic advice is not something that’s going to keep me up at night. Guy should have conducted business with his personal email, not his work as it wasn’t related to the Saints’ business at all.
Let me go ahead with the necessary clarifications that I’m not Catholic, in favor of tearing it down, and all things being equal would prefer that we not have given them PR advice. I also think them suing to keep emails discussing the matter private is a perfectly rational decision. It’s still icky.
The article implies involvement in a Church cover up which couldn’t be further from the truth
If they did nothing wrong, why sue to keep the emails private?
Y I K E S
It’s icky AF and using work resources for non-football matters ain’t a good look. Most businesses wouldn’t want internal communications published, even if there isn’t anything illegal going on.
All this being said, additional facts could of course change my mind such as assisting with some kind of illegal coverup.
But helping craft a press release or massage messaging (essentially what the article says) isn’t some damning activity, although again it should have been done on personal time not with football time and resources.
The Saints have been a disgusting franchise for years.
And Brees’ pass was uncatchable
everybody in the NFL is a terrible person
Glad you agree with everyone here.
I don't think he agrees at all. He's saying the Saints didn't do anything wrong. Hope this helps.
God works in mysterious ways
He seemed to admit it was fucked up and then went into spin move after the first sentence.
If it does come out the Saints assisted in a cover up, then multiple people within the org should go to jail and the NFL should take punitive action against the organization.
Helping craft a press release is something wildly different, hence the sensational comment.
Hope that helps clarify things
Helping the church craft spin to limit what got out about another pedophile the church allowed to remain active in the church for 30 years is fucking gross. If you want to give money to an organization that does that, that's on you. But people deserve to know that Saints money is doing that.
A handful of Saints emails that emerged last year in the clergy abuse litigation included an October 2018 exchange in which Bensel asked an archdiocese spokeswoman whether there might be “a benefit to saying we support a victims right to pursue a remedy through the courts.”
“I don’t think we want to say we ‘support’ victims going to the courts,” Sarah McDonald, the archdiocese’s communications director, replied, “but we certainly encourage them to come forward.”
The fight over the emails is part of a flurry of claims filed against the archdiocese over its employment of George F. Brignac, a longtime schoolteacher and deacon who was removed from the ministry in 1988 after a 7-year-old boy accused him of fondling him at a Christmas party. That accusation followed claims that Briganc abused several other boys, including one case that led to his acquittal in 1978 on three counts of indecent behavior with a juvenile.
Church officials permitted Brignac, 85, to act as a lay minister until local news accounts of his service in 2018 prompted his ouster and an apology from the archdiocese. The AP last year reported that Brignac, despite his supposed defrocking, also maintained access to schoolchildren and held leadership roles as recently as 2018 in the Knights of Columbus.
Following a new wave of publicity — in which Brignac told a reporter he had touched boys but never for “immoral purposes” — Brignac was indicted last month on a rape charge that could land him behind bars for the rest of his life. The prosecution came more than a year after a former altar boy told police that Brignac repeatedly raped him beginning in the late 1970s. Police said the abuse began when the boy was 7 and continued until he was 11.
The archdiocese, meanwhile, has settled several lawsuits against Brignac and included the former deacon in the list of more than 50 names it released in late 2018 of “credibly accused” clergy.
Clearly normal NFL team behavior. What the fuck are they thinking agreeing to do this?
I read this as saying the Saints person advised the Church to publicly support victims seeking remedy through the courts and the Church declined
Not sure what you mean. Their season ended after they treated Oklahoma like an extra on Oz.
I'd just sit this one at Whammy
Hmm, which person involved with the Saints organization would have the power and be stupid enough to involve the Saints in this mess?
Perhaps a former secretary and interior decorator who has been married three times and finagled billions out of the third marriage? A person who started the relationship that resulted in that 3rd marriage at the funeral of her future husband's wife? A person who has been the subject of 20 civil lawsuits over a 13 year period, beginning in 1987, for multiple reasons. A person once arrested and charged with theft of furniture from a client? A person who had a history of federal and state tax liens?
I would note that I am no fan of the family she fought against to maintain control of the Saints but I also believe there were no good guys in that mess.
The Saints should have no issue in releasing all emails then.
I love reading this aloud for some reason.
No argument here - what an incredibly dumb decision
Especially if you mentioned the archdiocese of New Orleans part.
Probably just be a Titans or Ravens fan now.
Nah the rule is you have to switch to the closest team in the same division. Just remember the i comes after the e in Jameis and you'll be fine. Enjoy the Bucs!
Atlanta closer. Fucked either way I guess
Catholics should be in re-education camps
Texans is the most geographically friendy choice.
The church is fucked up but this sounds a lot like something that could start a war.
Just take away all their draft picks for the next 10 years and move on. Maybe suspend Brees for a season too.
Hopefully sports media will stop jerking off over the team and the Superdome now.
Fan of a team defending the indefensible
love to see it
There are infinite reasons to protect privacy interests even if you didn’t do anything wrong. I think you’re a very good person in real life, but I’m sure you wouldn’t want to share your google search history with the board.