general soccer lighthearted bullshit topic: where chums can chit-chat

Definitely going to make some progress on this tonight. Have a decent drive.

 

There is a lot there and almost all of it is great

 

I know I've annoyed most of you but I'm actually trying to do some good now.

https://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/help-me-bail-hervis-rogers-out-of-jail.182152/

 

For those of you who have always wanted to visit Venice and Riyadh but only wanted to take 1 vacation

 

Gross

 

30 minutes with stopped clock is so much better

 

Why?

 

Have you watched the end of any euro game with a one goal lead?

 

I’ve seen plenty of time wasting with the ball in play. This wouldn’t help that, only the times where it’s out of play

 

Well they're not the same thing at all

 

I’ve never looked into the statistics but is that suggesting that the ball is out of play for ~1/3rd of the match currently? Because that seems absurdly high

 

It's actually not. I think it's 65 minutes. The average goal kick is over 20 seconds

 

What are you implying here

 

that the ends of soccer games fucking suck because the team with the lead fakes injury and takes 5 minutes to take a goal kick. How soccer fans have been brainwashed into thinking "game management" should be praised instead of removed from the game escapes me

 

Stopping the clock won’t have enough of an impact on that to justify a grotesque overcharging of rules and tradition

 

Then you've been watching a different sport than I have. Or care about tradition 50x more than I have (in a sport that recently added VAR, changed the definition of a handball 12 times, added extra subs, extra competitions, and expanded the World Cup/Euros)

 

All injuries in the final 15 min + stoppage that require play to be halted should be treated like head injuries and require the player to come off/not be allowed to return until the ref waves them back on

 

5 min sin bin with 30 min halves seems harsh.

 

Do not like 30 minute clock that stops when ball is out of play

the best thing about the sport is knowing that the game will be over in a little under two hours

 

should be even faster with 60 minutes and no incentive to time waste

 

if you can guarantee me the stopped clock won't lead to commercial breaks, I'll listen, but it just seems like a natural progression so I'd rather not go down that line.

 

Even with running clock that's coming. Hydration breaks

 

Can you provide some proof?

 

This is old but the most comprehensive: "At Premier League matches on average, the ball was in play for 62.39 minutes this season – more than in the much-vaunted Spanish and German top flights (61.48 minutes and 61.22 minutes respectively), but significantly less than in Serie A (65.15 minutes)."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/may/26/premier-league-opta-statistics

A comparison to NFL from last year, that says PL has 59 minutes:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-football-is-even-in-a-football-broadcast/

Either way, 60 minutes is not a ridiculous number

 

all of those are more than 60....

 

I said it was around 65 originally. And 59 is actually less than 60 according to nine out of ten dentists.

But I'm not sure what your point is? Did you want them to trial a stopped-clock match that is 61:38?

 

4 of the 5 times listed in your post are > 60....there is one example of less than and I'm just not sure why you'd change anything for 1 minute

 

I don't think you have any idea what you're arguing here. If you do, please explain it a different way because I'm clearly not getting what you're going after here

 

I'm waiting on you to give a decent reason to make this change

 

To meet in the middle, we’ll keep the 90 minutes but then do out of play clock stop. And we minus all subs to compensate for player health, thank you this decision is final and non negotiable.
Thanks,
FA

 

To stop incentivizing time wasting...? It's what we've been talking about this whole page

We've established that games typically have 60-65 minutes of play in a game. So instead of counting up to 90 minutes where faking an injury and refusing to take a goal kick count, we would do 60 minutes where none of those count.

 

I don't believe these guys are gonna stop faking injuries. Games will just last an extra 30 minutes in actual time and we'll all be pissed at how many commercial breaks they run between minute 55 and 60

 

most of the time at the end of games they're not faking injuries as much as they're just taking a chance to catch their breath.

 

They'd fake them for penalties still but no incentive for time wasting. Also this wouldn't even be a discussion if officials added on time properly

 

Or trying to sell a card

 

Does literally anyone but ohhaithur want this or his smaller penalty box?

Sometimes I wonder why you watch soccer