Golf Thread 2.0 - They’re coming for our balls, Bertwing already lost his

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  1. Jigga

    Jigga Ty Webb is a mean person
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    Finished with a birdie. Game makes no sense.
     
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  2. tigr2ndbase

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    Came in third in our scramble today at -14. Winner was -19. Played with one of the golf pros from Concession in our group. I asked him what are my odds of getting to play that course. His response..slim to none. Ha. They’re hoping to get the PGA championship there in 2031.
     
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  3. hudson

    hudson Oh, you know...stuff.
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    I feel all courses should have a one time policy. They should work to pair you with members who will host. You can only get on as a solo, no groups. That way I can play more courses.
     
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  4. tigr2ndbase

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    I’ll allow that policy
     
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  5. hudson

    hudson Oh, you know...stuff.
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    Like hey I have a legitimate handicap. I know, follow and practice the rules and proper etiquette. I just want to play your course one time, why do you have to be so dickish about. Especially when I’m not from the area.
     
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  6. bertwing

    bertwing check out the nametag grandma
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    Yeah we can tell lol cooked
     
  7. hudson

    hudson Oh, you know...stuff.
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    Ive posted almost no rounds this year with all the arm problems I’ve been having. But legitimate more like I pay for a ghin and not just what some random arccos or other apps claims. But more as a generalization for travel golfers who just want to play cool courses around the country.
     
  8. bertwing

    bertwing check out the nametag grandma
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  9. roggins

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    Yes Mr. Agusta GM that is correct. I’d like a tee time at 9:15 tomorrow. I am a single from out of town. I have an 11.3 handicap. No problem, right?
     
  10. Baron

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    Biscotti +84 :roll::roll::roll:
     
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  11. Bert Handsome

    Bert Handsome I'm sorry, the card says Moops
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    Feel like there is just so much money and exposure to be had if this run really promoted the drama of the fight for tour cards and did a Hard Knocks type production following the players. Give up production control to Netflix or Amazon but PGA Tour as a whole obviously would be enriched by the revenue. And hell, more of these guys wearing their sponsors logos which alone is more $ for them through exposure.

     
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  12. Snakes

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    always thought Kizzire would put it together and be a more consistent player.
     
  13. Nole0515

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    The Tale of 2 9’s 54-42 for my lowest 9 ever and it could have realistically been 39.
    Started walking and it exhausting but rewarding
     
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  14. Gaknight

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    Fuck this bullshit. I demand a trade
     
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  15. PaulKemp

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    A local kind of gem of a small retail golf shop in a great location is up for sale for what I’m guessing is likely just the cost of inventory. I get why these places struggle to drive enough revenue to work these days, but I’ve got a loud irritating voice in my head screaming, “You can fix her.”

    Curious what people here would do “fix her” based on experiences at these places in recent years. I’ve got quite a few ideas but not sure it’s anywhere close to enough
     
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  16. Hatfield

    Hatfield Charlie don’t surf
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    Wacky ads on local tv stations comes to mind
     
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  17. NineteenNine

    NineteenNine Divers are, in fact, wankers. It's science.
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    I briefly considered opening a store for women’s golf apparel a while back. I don’t know if it would work, being a niche of a niche, but damn ladies at my club now drop bank on clothes.
     
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  18. CUAngler

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    is there room to add on and set up some simulators? Good way to bump up your monthly revenue.
     
  19. dome foam

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    That’s huge
     
  20. PaulKemp

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    They have one sim bay they aren't fully monetizing. They use it for fittings only. Have room for at least one more, and that would be something I'd want up and running asap for sure. My initial thoughts were:

    - They are a reputable place for club building and club repair already (big positive mark)
    - They don't know who they are from a club sales perspective. Weird new inventory. Not enough used. I'd switch the focus to nearly 100% used and custom order
    - Very weak online presence (good reviews though). If you've got shit for sale, it should be for sale online.

    They're running 500k annually (got an inside tip) currently. Back of napkin math tells me there's probably less than 50k left over for me based on typical sporting goods retail store's avg net profit margin. That's not remotely close to working for me if I spend a lot of time over there, and I'd like to spend a lot of time over there. Would need to increase net profit margin significantly and drive a lot more rev.
     
  21. pez

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  22. sc_chant

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    This is going to be pretty stupid, right?
     
  23. 1

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    Only for the people that hate change so most of T-MB
     
  24. Upton^2

    Upton^2 blocked just a park away, but I can't really say
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    Do you enjoy watching people hit balls at topgolf
     
  25. DollarBillHokie

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    These businesses are tough. For SEO you are competing against the box stores and the key buyers of clubs are loyal to their pro shop. Custom stuff plus used sounds like an inventory nightmare.
     
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  26. sc_chant

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    Not really
     
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  27. roggins

    roggins Butcher of Bakersfield & Chris Gaines impersonator
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    What state are you located in? Is golf playable year round where you live?
     
  28. PaulKemp

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    Yeah year round golf. Coastal California.

    Interesting. My thought was competing to sell off-the-shelf new would actually be a waste of inventory space, because so many people prefer to either fit and find something close on the used market or fit and custom order (not actually carry inventory of new at all outside of fitting carts). With a curated inventory of quality used clubs/shafts, I thought it would be able to recapture/reimagine the je ne sais quoi of walking into the heavily stocked used shops of the old days to treasure hunt, plus SEO on specific used items wouldn't be as competitive as trying to elbow out big box stores for new listings. This should help capture more eyeballs outside of the local market while simultaneously informing the locals/tourists what's currently available. And ultimately, I wanted to try to team up with a few other used shops to share used inventory on an online marketplace (each has and manages their own inventory but lists centrally to beef up inventory and SEO).

    It's been a verrrrry long time since I've worked in golf, but I know our biggest winners back in the day margin wise when I was working golf retail sales were used items (outside of obvious soft goods). And I'm a used equipment junkie.

    Probably all stupid of me, and the financials of the place are probably even worse than I can imagine... but, it's fun to daydream, and I figure I'll go talk to the dude anyway.
     
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  29. DollarBillHokie

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    It sounds like you know the space better than me. I’ll just point out that treasure hunts work when you get turnover and can handle misses on inventory because it’s cheap and sold quickly. It’s plausible you could do your multi-company online option, but if so, why bother with buying out someone’s retail store?

    Golf clubs as a treasure hunt doesn’t sound like a great niche for turning over inventory. People don’t need clubs and they are a pretty high price point. Knowing the stuff above about have a good club repair / customization, your better bet is probably to utilize that to scale - either with the SEO marketing you mentioned or to “wholesale” the service to local courses. I’m sure there’s an easy way to scale that up.
     
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  30. Born Again Lefty

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    I would also consider your plan to buy bulk used clubs and be able to turn them around with enough profit vs. why golfers buy used in the first place.

    Personally, as used club buyer, I value that route because I can go to GolfWRX or eBay and get a great value on a low-used club. If you’re the middle-man in that transaction it may increase the price too much to provide me value, and I’ll wait it out or buy new depending on the club.
     
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  31. 1

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    Not a terrible motion for Rahmbo

     
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  32. fish

    fish Impossible, Germany
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    He's an athlete, no doubt.
     
  33. PaulKemp

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    That's a great question. This all started with the shared marketplace idea — a way to give the mom and pop shops a way to compete against the big online retailers. I have been building up the “how” behind it all for a while. The notion of purchasing a retail store only happened because I approached a local pro friend of mine who used to manage that location to find out if he could get me the owner's contact info, because I wanted to pitch him on the marketplace idea as a first step to validate it.

    And he was like, dude it’s for sale for peanuts and you should buy it. So here I am thinking well… it sounds fun and would give me more credibility in the community when trying to make the bigger idea happen. I’ve always loved those places, and they’re slowly dying out, which sucks
     
  34. IrishLAX2

    IrishLAX2 We suck again!
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    The Eduardo Molinari NLU Ryder Cup recap pod is absolutely fantastic. One of their better ones in quite awhile
     
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  35. RalfBully

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    wish i could get his updated data golf for betting purposes. dude was confident on team europe in april and knows all of data golf's flaws
     
  36. Baron

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  37. IrishLAX2

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  38. pez

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    Yeah was hoping they wouldn’t take it this serious
     
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  39. sc_chant

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    OMG! SO RANDOM! I CANT BELIEVE WE ARE RECORDING HIS REACTION AS IT HAPPENED!
     
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  40. pez

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    this is official now
     
  41. fattmante

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    The LIV golf nation dweeb tweeted that a top 25 guy was heading there early next year. Not sure why any big name player would leave for LIV with the merger talks still ongoing
     
  42. fattmante

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    Or maybe Rahm was so disgusted with the Morikawa video he couldn’t bring himself to participate
     
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  43. IrishLAX2

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    Faster payday and the merger news has normalized LIV?
     
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  44. pez

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    And a guy like Rahm can weather the OWGR storm for a couple years. I ultimately think LIV dies if the merger occurs but if you can get a big paycheck now with less potential risk, I could see it
     
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  45. fattmante

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    Rahm seemed to be a big Ryder Cup guy, genuinely curious if he would forgo it
     
  46. poor paul

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    Rahm's not going to LIV, he just doesn't want to be flying to the East Coast for Monday matches all the time with very young kids in addition to his tour schedule :twocents:

    most of the participants live in FL.
     
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  47. steamengine

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    Man, I thought Morikawa seemed super likable coming out of college and he’s turned out quite the opposite.
     
  48. ZeroPointZero

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    Exit Rahm, enter Blockie
     
  49. ohhaithur

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    I don't watch them regularly but this video came into my feed (29 minute mark)

    It's his second Par 4 Hole-in-One captured on camera. That's incredible. 1-in-a-billion might actually be an understatement in this case
     
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