Golf Thread 2.0 - Where houtex just can’t get a discount

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  1. Artoo

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    My crazy prediction is that Speith does not win another one at Augusta. Maybe he wins one in like 10-15 years. He was so precise out there this week that I just don't think he can recreate that again. I think he will see a ton of top 5s and a few second places, but will not win.

    /crazyprediction
     
  2. Bulworth

    Bulworth Obscenity?

    Wonder if he turns out like a history-making Mike Weir? Wins one and completely sucks the rest of his career.
     
  3. bucs

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    Spieth is going to win a lot of majors :twocents:
     
  4. Jigga

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  5. Bulworth

    Bulworth Obscenity?

    The way he played this weekend, that's my honest opinion too. He was so collected on every swing. His chip and putt on 18 yesterday were two of the best shots I've seen in a long time. I think he can win a lot of majors but it's always interesting to me to prognosticate about being so great one week and then do nothing else whatsoever.

    People seem to do it a lot more in golf than other sports. They see a great performance during one tournament and declare that player "the next big thing" and he doesn't even get a top 10 the rest of his career.
     
  6. Boom TittyMilk

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    He's been playing like this for longer than a week. :twocents:
     
  7. Thoros of Beer

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    spieth almost won last year...
     
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  8. Thoros of Beer

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    he's been 1, 2, 2, 1 the past 4 weeks
     
  9. Thoros of Beer

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    jordan is the man. still playing next week at RBC Heritage because he already committed on friday
     
  10. bucs

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    did you just start watching golf this week?
     
  11. Artoo

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    I highly doubt this is the case.

    This is highly likely.

    I just don't think he wins the Masters again.
     
  12. IrishLAX2

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    Everyone has been wondering if Rory can win double digit majors.

    I think we'll be asking the same exact question about Spieth in 3 years. He's the next American superstar.
     
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  13. IrishLAX2

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    Have to take into account Spieth has the best amateur record of any American golfer since Tiger Woods. His record since he's been a teenager is ridiculous. The only question was whether or not he could keep it going at the top level. Welp, it's happening.
     
  14. Thoros of Beer

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    yeah i would be shocked if this kid isn't the real deal.
     
  15. FadeMe

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    If Spieth continues to putt anywhere close to how he putted this week, he will win a bunch of majors. His ability to make clutch birdies and par savers was pretty spectacular.
     
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  16. IrishLAX2

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    He bounces back so well. After a bogey or a playing partner's birdie, he seemed to make a birdie every time. He answers so, so well. Kid is just a straight competitor.
     
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  17. FadeMe

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    Absolutely. He played today's round very much like match play. I think he could sense nothing else really threatening was happening on the course and Rose was his only threat. I thought he played a really smart round today.

    His game should translate pretty well in all of the majors, but he will have a little less margin of error because of his length. As long as he has his short game as sharp as it was this weekend, he will give himself a chance.
     
  18. kylebw7

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    How far is Speith hitting his drives? They referenced him not being a big hitter quite often this weekend.
     
  19. ColeTrickle

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    He's not a big hitter, but I wouldn't call him short. He averages 293 off the tee this year.
     
  20. Bulworth

    Bulworth Obscenity?

    I've been watching long enough to know he was a mid-level player last year, at best, with the exception of Augusta. He hasn't performed well in other majors. He didn't even make the cut in 3 out of the 7 majors he's played.

    He's been playing well, this year, but this weekend was his signature performance, so far. Now what?
     
  21. Boom TittyMilk

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    He reaches his prime?
     
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  22. ColeTrickle

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    He had 8 top 10s and finished 11th on the money list for the 2014 season. Not bad for a 20-21 year old. And that doesn't count the 2 tournaments he won after the Tour Championship (Australian Open and dominating Tigers tournament)
     
  23. Boom TittyMilk

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    I guess being a "mid level" pga professional before age 21 is a bad thing
     
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  24. bucs

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    one of the best amateur players in US history, rookie of the year and youngest guy to win on tour in like 80 years in 2013, finished 2nd at augusta and won twice last year and was one of the few bright spots on our RC team, and has pretty much dominated the tour all year at age 21.

    he was top 10 in the OGWR and made the ryder cup team last year but yeah, he was just a "mid-level player"
     
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  25. bRamonceTaylor

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    Been meaning to seek some advice from some of y'all with Masters experience.

    My pops turns 60 later this year and I just got my first big boy job so I'd like to do something special for he and my mom and send them to the 2016 Masters. I know it's going to be expensive, but I'm willing to save some cash to pay for it and my sister will help with as much as she can.

    Has anybody got a good resource for a guide to getting tickets?

    I know there's a lottery, which I will apply for, but from looking online it seems like you can buy badges off stubhub or whatever site, but that requires meeting up with someone in Augusta to pick it up the morning of. Is that reliable? Not a problem if that's what they wind up having to do.

    How far in advance should lodging be reserved?

    From what I've read on TMB and other places, it sounds like a practice round is necessary to see the entire course and get the full experience, so I'd like to get them tickets to the par 3 contest and the first round. Good idea? Bad idea? Thoughts?

    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. tia.
     
  26. Bulworth

    Bulworth Obscenity?

    1, he didn't win last and 2, "dominated" the tour? Take the kids balls out of your mouth.
     
  27. bucs

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    what the fuck are you talking about? he won twice last year and he has absolutely been the best player in the world all year. you're either a retard, have no idea what you're talking about, or only think golf matters during 4 weekends per year

    I'm not going to sit here and say he's going to win double digit majors (although he might) because anything can happen, but to say he was a "mid-level player, at best" proves that you simply don't have a clue
     
  28. Bulworth

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    lol. I'm sorry, I didn't know we were considering wins in the "Australasian PGA Tour" as legitimate wins. I'm sure he beat a talented field including Shaun Micheel and David Duval.

    Gargle, gargle, son.
     
  29. IrishLAX2

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    I booked my flights and hotel in January. Fly into Savannah, Columbia, or Charleston and pay about half the price of Atlanta. The drive from those places isn't much further. For hotel, you can stay in Augusta mid-week for less than $200 per night. Granted, the hotels won't be nice, but that's Augusta, Ga.

    Parking is free. Concessions are incredibly cheap. Pro shop isn't marked up any (though you can obviously still send a ton in there given the brands - a lot of Peter Millar - and how much stuff there is in there).

    It's a surprisingly cheap weekend outside of tix. As far as tix are concerned, winning the lottery is huge. I got there Tuesday at 12:30 and paid $150 a piece to scalpers on the street for the rest of Tuesday. Stayed until the gates closed at about 7. Walked the entire course, followed Rory for six holes, saw some guys on the range, etc. felt like an entire day. Wednesday we found a guy in Craigslist willing to sell his tix for $450 each (broker sites and scalpers wanted at least 750). Got in right when the gates opened, watched guys on the range, followed Ricky and Phil, then Spieth, Woods and Crenshaw. Then saw first half of the Par 3. Had a 7pm flight to catch so had to leave halfway through the Par 3. Flipped our tix for $100 each on the way out.

    I recommend the practice rounds because you can see so much, the players are engaging with fans, and you can bring cameras. If you're bringing your pops, you're gonna want a camera to re-live it later on. The only expensive things were tix (cuz I didn't win the lottery) and the pro shop (not because of prices...because I bought a shit load). The rest was an incredibly cheap trip. If you can win the lottery, I see absolutely no reason not to go. And that applies to everyone.
     
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  30. IrishLAX2

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    Have you even looked at the field or the course he won on?
     
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  31. Joshuam2107

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    It's frustrating as fuck to hit pretty much every fairway and miss green after green due to shit iron play.

    I'm not turning it over right now, like I'm blocking or push fading my irons a lot, not sure what the fix is.
     
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  32. Cut68

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    Sir, this is the golf thread. It's a gentleman's game, so conduct yourself accordingly
     
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  33. gus_chiggins

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    Sounds like you're not getting through the ball. Are you quitting on it?
     
  34. Joshuam2107

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    I'd like to think that I'm not, I've really been putting an emphasis on stepping that left heel in solid to initiate the hip turn but I guess I should pay attention to my hips after impact. Either I'm not getting hips cleared at impact or I'm leaving the face open, right?
     
  35. gus_chiggins

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    Either that, or your hands are getting out in front of your hips, leaving the club face open at impact. I have a tendency to do the same thing because I've been fighting a pull, recently.
     
  36. Frank Martin

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    Spieth has it made. He's legitimately a good looking guy. I can't even imagine his future earnings in endorsements.
     
  37. Artoo

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    With a hat on. With a hat off, he's as bald as Peyton Manning. And that's not a very good look.
     
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  38. animal_mother

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    We're the same player right now. It's really frustrating consistently two putting for bogey or double bogey bc of shitty second shots...
     
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  39. Joshuam2107

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    Those days that you can't hit a green are the same days your short game decides to work too, UGH.
     
  40. Pawpride

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    Douche chills
     
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  41. Room 15

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    The girls we were watching with on Saturday kept talking how hot he was...then he took his hat off and they let out audible groans.
     
  42. ColeTrickle

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    Adam Scott and Rory McIlroy were in the field. Look at past Australian Open winners. Rory McIlroy, Adam Scott, Lee Westwood, Greg Norman, Tom Watson, Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player, Arnold Palmer. Wasn't aware only PGA Tour victories meant anything.
     
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  43. FadeMe

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    Sounds like you're swing is pretty inside-to-out, like swinging to right field, but your face is square to that path. If you want it to turn over and draw, you can still swing out that way but close the face a little. Or you can bring your swing path in a little so it's not so in-to-out and keep that face square like you currently are doing.
     
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  44. Joshuam2107

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    As a former slicer its tough to wrap my brain around my swing being too inside. I like it though, I did mess with closing the face down once and managed to hit a rather decent shot, maybe there is something there. Thanks uguise.
     
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  45. Thoros of Beer

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    If you buy through stubhub they have a site that they set up in Augusta where you pick up and drop off the badges.
     
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  46. gritzy

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    Just buy new irons obviously
     
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  47. 1

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    First time in the new thread for me!

    T-MB needs to get destroyed again. It does wonders for my fantasy golf game :cheesy:

    Other than 2 measly points I couldn't ask for a better start to this segment.
     
  48. FadeMe

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    Yeah, I wouldn't make a drastic change to cause you to revert back to that. You could be getting your hips a little too far ahead of your swing causing you to drop inside and push everything.
     
  49. Boom TittyMilk

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    Awesome story...

    Why Masters Champion Jordan Spieth Hired a Former Schoolteacher as His Caddie
    A ‘textbook’ example of the randomness of the caddying business
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    Jordan Spieth, right, with caddie Michael Greller on the 18th green after winning the Masters on Sunday. PHOTO: REUTERS
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    Augusta, Ga.

    The man who celebrated with Jordan Spieth on the 18th green at Augusta National Golf Club on Sunday made his first trip here only three years ago. Michael Greller wasn’t even a professional caddie at the time. He was a sixth-grade math teacher who won a lottery for Masters tickets and spent the day following Rory McIlroy. “I had a few beers and enjoyed the walk,” he said.

    Greller’s path from standing outside the ropes to carrying the bag of the Masters champion is far more improbable than Spieth’s impressive victory. And it reveals both the randomness of the caddying business and the way Spieth has approached the game.

    When Tiger Woods won the Masters in 1997—at 21, the same age as Spieth—the man carrying his bag was Mike “Fluff” Cowan. With more than two decades of experience caddying on the PGA Tour, Cowan offered the kind of in-depth course knowledge that Woods, for all his prodigious talent, lacked.

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    But in hiring Greller, 37, at the start of Spieth’s career and sticking with him as he ascended to this point, Spieth prioritized personal chemistry. That he went so far as to hire someone who had caddied only occasionally for amateurs ranked as one of the bigger upsets in pro caddying.

    “It’s rare,” said Mike Kerr, a PGA Tour caddying veteran who now caddies for Adam Scott. “You have to be really lucky to get into that position. But the way they work together, it looks like he’s been doing it a long time.”

    In the more strategic aspects of caddying—knowing the details of every hole and advising on club selection and targets—Greller has been studious. Before the third round Saturday, he spent 45 minutes talking to Carl Jackson, the longtime caddie to Ben Crenshaw who first worked the Masters in 1961. With Greller taking notes, the two of them talked through every hole on the course.

    But the reason he has latched on with golf’s biggest rising star has little to do with measuring yardages or memorizing breaks on a green. It is because of moments like this: When Spieth double-bogeyed the 17th hole Saturday, Greller didn’t say much as they walked to the 18th tee box. He mostly just listened.

    ‘There are thousands of guys who could probably caddie for Jordan. But if I thought about that, I’d drive myself crazy.’

    —Michael Greller
    “You don’t want to overanalyze or make it harder than it is,” Greller said. “I just try to be a calming influence on him. He’s very intense.”

    Spieth recovered to end his round with a par on No. 18, a pivotal sequence in the tournament. And while it’s impossible to assess a caddie’s impact, the moment speaks to how knowing your boss can trump so many other aspects of the job.

    “Ninety percent of caddying is getting along with your pro,” said Adam Hayes, who caddies for Russell Henley. “Knowing when to keep it light or be serious. He obviously keeps Jordan comfortable.”

    Getting the chance to do so in the first place, however, was largely a matter of being in the right place at the right time. The series of events that led Greller to Spieth traces back to a chance encounter nine years ago.


    Is there anyone in professional golf—or anyone coming up through the ranks—who can challenge the dominance of world No. 1 Rory McIlroy? WSJ's Geoff Foster discusses. Photo: AP
    In 2006, Greller attended the U.S. Amateur Public Links Championship at a course near his home in Gig Harbor, Wash., as a spectator. When he noticed a player named Matt Savage carrying his own bag and struggling in the first round, he offered to caddie for him free.

    “We offered to pay him and he refused,” said Savage, now an assistant golf coach at Florida State. “He just enjoyed being part of the event.”

    Four years later, Savage recommended Greller to a childhood friend who happened to be a top amateur, Justin Thomas, for another tournament near Greller’s home. Thomas, in turn, recommended Greller to his good friend, Spieth, when Spieth needed a caddie for the 2011 U.S. Junior Amateur, which was also held near Greller’s home.

    It was a marriage of convenience. Greller was a local and knew the course at Gold Mountain Golf Club from experience.

    At that point, he had no aspirations of making caddying his profession. Among other things, Greller liked that it gave him a practical-world example to show his students. After caddying at amateur tournaments, he would often bring his yardage book—which caddies use to calculate precise distances on the course—into class.

    “A lot of that is sixth-grade math,” Greller said. “It’s kind of eerie how much it translates.”

    But when Spieth won that first tournament with Greller on his bag, they formed a bond. In 2012, Greller caddied for him when he played in the U.S. Open as an amateur. Spieth’s 21st-place finish there made him the top-ranked amateur in the world, which could have easily worked against Greller.

    “There were a lot of people who wanted to caddie for Jordan,” Spieth’s agent, Jay Danzi, said. But when he turned pro in late 2012, Spieth wasn’t sure how quickly he would succeed. He wanted a caddie who would travel with him throughout the year, regardless of how well or where he was playing. Spieth offered Greller the job, and that was the end of Greller’s teaching career.

    Greller’s wife, Ellie, has since left her job as a kindergarten teacher to join him on the road. The two go together wherever Spieth is playing, their lives transformed by a mix of happenstance, diligence and the meteoric rise of the newest Masters champion.

    “There are thousands of guys who could probably caddie for Jordan,” Greller said. “But if I thought about that, I’d drive myself crazy.”

    Write to Brian Costa at [email protected]
     
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  50. Van Earl Right

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    This is asinine. He shot 63 in the final round when nobody else, including #1 and other Major winners, broke 70. It's being talked about as one of the greatest rounds of all time, comparable to Norman's 63 @ Turnberry
     
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