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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Sweet Dick Willie, Jan 5, 2018.
Glad to see Ark has come around and gates Gruden
I didn't think it was great initially but was willing to give it a chance. Then we got to the draft and I was full on what the fuck is going on
Then the owner is dumber than he looks.
It's not the owner. He's just letting Gruden use him and everyone else as a scape goat. Grudens the captain of this ship and Mark Davis is just being a pushover pussy
Oh, I’m sure. I was just taking a cheap shot at Davis.
I'm still thinking Gruden is following marching orders from Davis to cut the payroll significantly and bringing Chucky back was a way to get people to buy in on a bad roster.
The Khalil Mack holdout just accelerated the timeline.
Saw this one coming
Honest question from Ark and all closely following raider fans:
Who exactly on this team is worth keeping, and why?
KO, Hudson, Gabe Jackson, Carr, Jared cook, Jalen Richard, Lee Smith, Conley, Karl Joseph, Hurst, key, jelly, Erik Harris, marquel Lee, Nick Nelson, and Daryl Worley are the players I would keep moving forward which means like half of them will be gone
Looking at the Raiders conquest to finish clearing the books, Osemele is a goner and Derek Carr will be a Redskin by draft day.
I don't believe they want to get rid of Carr currently. But Gruden is an idiot with no actual convictions so that could change. He's not going to re-sign cook and they'll cut KO and take a guard in the second that should've been picked in the 8th
Is derek carr not still a "building block"?
"We were just floored with a trade offer that fell right into our laps"
Raiders signed QB Nathan Peterman to their practice squad.
While still working for ESPN, coach Jon Gruden called Peterman the most pro-ready quarterback in the 2017 draft class, one that also included Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. Gruden thought Peterman should go "no lower than the second round." He went in the fifth and has been one of the worst quarterbacks in NFL history through his first two seasons.
lol at getting turned down by this bum #New York Giants
Raiders of the Lost Ark(adin)
Peterman must have fucking memorized that spider yz banana playcall gruden likes to even be considered for a roster spot
Our gm is irrelevant. Gruden is the gm. And he's the worst one in the NFL
Skins don't have cap room.
They are stuck owning Alex Smith a shit ton of money even if he never plays again
The raiders gm is Jon Gruden
I hope the Packers hire McKenzie back
100 million to build a team like a hyperactive kid playing Madden. Love everything about it.
So by "Sent their scouts home" they mean they're just going to do the draft without their scouts? Because they are worried about leaks? I'm confused about what that means.
It sounds like Gruden and Mayock have determined that the scouts have provided their utility and now they are all hanging out at home.
Ah, yes, I too love to have my boss tell me to take the week off before and including the day that is literally the point of my job.
Why employ these people if that is the case?
They are going to clean house after the draft.
Has Mayock ever worked as a scout in or any role with an organization? That kind of sounds like some of the stories back in the day about Matt Millen in Detroit, and it's actually not really that hard to understand if they've never been through it before.
Remember that German kid he kept blowing a few years ago? That seemed to end well.
I think he's protecting Mayock here, but...
Doesn't sound out of the usual to me. They've done their job and they don't get to make the decisions.
After Bush, I think Oliver is my next favorite guy. Scheme be damned; he is a stud.
the anti war room
I can see sending them home for a holiday weekend as something that makes a lot of sense. If they don't come back to the building or have any contact with the decision makers from Monday-Wednesday (or even at the draft, depending on how that tweet is supposed to be read), I can't believe that's normal around the league.
It's probably not normal for everyone no, but there isn't a single person who has worked with gruden that would be surprised he's calling every shot from here on out and doesn't care what anyone else thinks.
yep totally normal
I don't know what team this was, but that set up was horrible. I feel sorry for those people retroactively.
and Arkadin is somewhat right, the number in those war rooms have went down the past ten years but generally the scouting staff would be there for draft day
Check the carpet.....either the Saints, or some team set-up in the shittiest conference room available at the Orleans Hotel in Vegas
Whispers to first guy: "We'll take Rogers."
Whispers to next guy: "We'll take Roger."
Whispers to next guy: "Don't take Roger."
Whispers to next guy: "Roger."
Commish: "With the next pick in the draft, the Saints select Roberts."