HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: FUCK...We suck again!

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  1. Festus McBadass

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    Was that like his 9th blown save this year? Well, I guess this wasn't a save situation but point stands. He fucking sucks.
     
  2. Cheshire Bridge

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    We're a better team right now with Camargo at SS.
     
  3. One Man Wolfpack

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    Cumberland beginning to hit again after his promotion.

    July -- .315/.403/.463

    Also another catcher making a move this year is William Contreras, down at Danville. Only 19 years old, and is slashing .356/.467/.548 -- also the brother of Cubs catcher, Willson Contreras.
     
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  4. Clown Baby

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    Who was the international catcher we signed last summer?
     
  5. SC

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    Abrahan Gutierrez out of Venezuela. $3.5M.
     
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  6. Clown Baby

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    That's right. Didn't he draw comparisons to Piazza bat but with above average arm/defense?
     
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  7. SC

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    At one point, though I believe his development slowed a little bit closer to signing. Still talented, obviously, though.
     
  8. jrmy

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    .261/.340/.348 so far in the GCL.

    Fine numbers for a 17 year old
     
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  9. One Man Wolfpack

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    Those Piazza comps were like Bill Shanks telling anyone who would listen that Elvis Andrus' comp was Alex Rodriguez.
     
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  10. SC

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    Yeah, he's good. The Piazza comp is just a bit far-fetched. And not fair to the kid either.
     
  11. Louis Holth

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    Listen, he's piazza. Camargo is Altuve. You're gonna have to understand. We now hit on about 99% of our prospects and they all beat their ceiling as a player. It's the Braves way.
     
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  12. Clown Baby

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    An everyday catcher who hits .280 with 20+ HR power is all I want.

    Apparently, the Indians are itching to give away top catching prospect Francisco Mejia and they're also in the market for pitching. It would take Teheran but I'm down.
     
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  13. Hewwow

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    SC can you post the BA updated top 10 article for us? Looks like they have Bryse Wilson as our #10 prospect.
     
  14. Pond

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    Watched Danville play the past two days. I'm very impressed by Maitan and he got good contact almost every at bat. I was not that impressed by contreras on the defensive side. He let a ball get by him to score a run and also missed a throw to second costing a run. Lugbauer’s defense doesn't seem to be bad despite letting a ball through at catcher.
     
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  15. Daddy Rabbit

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    Whats an updated ranking on our pitching prospects, especially ones aquired via trade.

    Is all hope lost on guys like Blair? Guys that already had a chance but just aint got it.
     
  16. Louis Holth

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    SC
     
  17. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Blair has been pitching well lately. He was a total fucking mess to start the year but has gotten it together.
     
  18. Pond

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    His dad said they reworked his delivery and it took him some time to get used to it.
     
  19. SC

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    2017 ATLANTA BRAVES MIDSEASON TOP 10 PROSPECTS
    July 24, 2017 By J.J. Cooper

    Midseason Top 10 Prospects

    Braves Midseason Top 10
    1. Ronald Acuna, OF
    2. Kolby Allard, LHP
    3. Ozzie Albies, 2B/SS
    4. Mike Soroka, RHP
    5. Kyle Wright, RHP
    6. Sean Newcomb, LHP
    7. Ian Anderson, RHP
    8. Kevin Maitan, SS
    9. Luiz Gohara, LHP
    10. Bryse Wilson, RHP

    All along, 2017 was assured to be a mulligan for the Braves. It’s a freebie.

    With a new ballpark opening to ensure that fans would stream to the northern suburbs of Atlanta no matter what, the rebuilding Braves’ realistic goal for 2017 was progress, not playoffs.

    In many ways, they’ve met that goal. Atlanta is in second place in the NL East. They trail the Nationals by an insurmountable distance and are on the very periphery of the wild-card race. But by playing right around .500 ball, they have shown their rebuild is taking steps toward completion.

    The Braves still have arguably the best farm system in baseball with a slew of prospects scattered all the way from Triple-A to the lowest levels. They’ve graduated Mike Foltynewicz and almost Sean Newcomb as solid members of the starting rotation. Shortstop Dansby Swanson’s big league acclimation has not gone as smoothly.

    As the trade deadline nears, the Braves are logically sellers, but only in a modest way. It makes sense to see if there is any demand for second baseman Brandon Phillips (a pending free agent) with Ozzie Albies about ready step in to replace him. Similarly, starting pitchers R.A. Dickey and Jaime Garcia could land modest returns as innings-eating starters. Even recent pickup first baseman Matt Adams might make sense in a deal now that Freddie Freeman has returned from injury.


    Ideally, Atlanta is going to put together a nearly entirely homegrown starting rotation in the coming years as Mike Soroka, Kolby Allard, Luiz Gohara and others compete to join Julio Teheran, Foltyniewicz and Newcomb. The lineup will need work, but Ronald Acuna, the team’s top prospect, and Albies aren’t far away.

    1. Ronald Acuna, OF
    Triple-A Gwinnett
    Age: 19

    Acuna came into the season as a talented player, but one with just 40 games of experience in full-season ball. He is now in Triple-A, having posted a .306/.361/.505 line between high Class A, Double-A and Triple-A. He’s a center fielder with a great arm, plenty of power and while he is an over-aggressive hitter at times, he has solid contact skills, too. Acuna is on a fast track similar to Andruw Jones, Rafael Furcal and Andrelton Simmons in years past and should make his way to Atlanta soon.

    2. Kolby Allard, LHP
    Double-A Mississippi
    Age: 19

    It’s easy to gloss over just how difficult the task Allard has handled with aplomb. He’s a 19-year-old who skipped over high Class A and immediately became one of the most consistent starters in the Southern League. His stuff isn’t as eye-popping as Luiz Gohara’s, but his combination of solid stuff across the board and polish make him a long-term rotation option.


    3. Ozzie Albies, 2B/SS
    Triple-A Gwinnett
    Age: 20

    Albies season has been derailed at times by injury, but when he’s gotten onto the field, he’s shown that should be a capable double-play partner for Dansby Swanson. Albies is a much better hitter from the righthand side than as a lefty, but he’s a well-rounded, high floor player as a table-setter.

    4. Mike Soroka, RHP
    Double-A Mississippi
    Age: 19

    If Allard’s feat is impressive, Soroka has been even better. He’s second in the Southern League in ERA (10-5, 2.38) and third in WHIP (1.02). Soroka gets tarred as a righthander with average stuff, but it’s better than that, as he showed with a number of 95-mph fastballs at the Futures Game. Soroka is a likely mid-rotation starter, and is one who is moving incredibly quickly.

    5. Kyle Wright, RHP
    Rookie-level GCL Braves
    Age: 21

    Wright has begun his pro career with what is expected to be a light workload after he threw 103 innings for Vanderbilt. Wright’s big test will begin next spring as he preps for his first full pro season and attempts to live up to his status as the No. 5 overall pick.

    6. Sean Newcomb, LHP
    Atlanta
    Age: 24

    Newcomb has always had the stuff to be a big league starter, but his control is never been consistent enough. So far, in a little over a month in the big leagues, he’s managed to show just enough control to be a viable big league starter. He is likely to remain wild, but if he can limit it just enough he has the stuff and durability to be a quality rotation piece.

    7. Ian Anderson, RHP
    Low Class A Rome
    Age: 19

    Anderson’s first full pro season has been exactly what the organization hoped for. He has a plus fastball and a big breaking curveball and so far no one is hitting him hard–opponents are slugging under .290 against him. Anderson sat for a couple of weeks and hasn’t thrown more than three innings since his return July 15, but it is by plan to limit his innings.

    8. Kevin Maitan, SS
    Rookie-level Danville
    Age: 17

    Maitan got off to a delayed start thanks to a hamstring injury, but so far he’s been exactly the kind of dynamic player everyone anticipated. He had four multi-hit games in his first eight games in the GCL and was promoted to Danville.

    9. Luiz Gohara, LHP
    Double-A Mississippi
    Age: 20

    Gohara has the best stuff of any starting pitcher in the Braves’ organization. He carries 96-97 mph deep into games and at his best he can touch 100. The reasons to remain cautious about Gohara revolve around his conditioning and durability. His 82.1 innings this year is already a career-high.

    10. Bryse Wilson, RHP
    Low Class A Rome
    Age: 19

    Wilson was the fourth high school pitcher the Braves drafted in 2016, but his stuff has been better than Joey Wentz’s or Kyle Muller’s. Wilson sits 91-93 mph with a more consistent breaking ball. His changeup has work to do, but he has the potential for a solid three-pitch mix.

    RISING

    • C Alex Jackson has put himself back on the prospect map. He’s still learning how to catch as a pro, but he’s finally tapping into the power potential that once made him among the top prospects in the 2014 draft class

    Joey Wentz has dominated the South Atlantic League with an average fastball, above-average control and excellent pitchability.

    • C Brett Cumberland showed much better power in a return to low Class A Rome. He’s been a slow-mover so far, but he’s a switch-hitting catcher with bat speed.

    FALLING

    • LHP Max Fried has battled blister issues and his stuff isn’t as firm or as sharp as it was last year. The results haven’t been pretty. Fried is 2-11, 6.44 this year.

    • 2B Travis Demeritte does have excellent power potential for a second baseman, but his poor pitch recognition continues to hamper him. He’s hitting .213/.292/.378.

    HURTING

    • OF Dustin Peterson missed most of the first half with a broken hamate bone in his hand.

    • RHP A.J. Minter missed most of April and May with a groin injury.

    • RHP Patrick Weigel will be sidelined into 2018 as he recovers from Tommy John surgery.

    • RHP Dan Winkler, still subject to Rule 5 roster restrictions, is on a rehab assignment as he attempts to return from a fractured elbow.

    GRADUATING

    • SS Dansby Swanson has had a poor first half in Atlanta, but the team still sees him as its shortstop for the rest of the decade and beyond.

    • RHP Luke Jackson has been a passable reliever as his control has wavered between frightening and playable.


    Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/mino...dseason-top-10-prospects/#llIVrIsSf44p2TkZ.99
     
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  20. Reggie Washington

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    Didn't realize Demeritte was having such a poor season.
     
  21. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Garcia to the twins for someone called Huascar Ynoa
     
  22. ashy larry

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    Recker too
     
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  24. One Man Wolfpack

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    And .. ?

    There's more, right?
     
  25. Baby Boy

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    Bowman:

    The Twins are assuming the remainder of Garcia's salary

    The Braves are still in on Sonny Gray and other controllable frontline starting pitchers

    The approximate $4.7M saved from Garcia's salary gives the Braves more flexibility as they pursue controllable frontline SPs
     
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  26. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Seems like a horrible trade. Guess the market was way worse than we thought.
     
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  27. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    This guy was the twins #22 prospect. Doubt he's in our top 30.
     
  28. jrmy

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    I don't love it but I'm no professional scout
     
  29. jrmy

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    Does sound like we went cheap on cash and got a lesser prospect though
     
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  30. Clown Baby

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    Why do we give a fuck about $4.5 million?
     
  31. HtownTide

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    Thats a disappointing return
     
  32. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Straight salary dump.
     
  33. Clown Baby

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    Which makes zero fucking sense if we were inquiring about Verlander and even less sense if we're serious about trying to make a wildcard run
     
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  34. jrmy

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    I don't think we're serious about that
     
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  35. Clown Baby

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    Sounds like every other team could use a Julio Teheran then
     
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  36. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    They say it's to give us flexibility to acquire a Frontline starter. We'll see. Right now it sucks.
     
  37. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I mean we definitely should have just kept the guys we graded for him.
     
  38. jrmy

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    Disagree. Ellis and Dykstra are downright bad and Gant is mediocre.
     
  39. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Gant is a mediocre major league pitcher. We just got a mediocre rookie league pitcher. I was hoping he had an electric arm or something but he throws 94. We will be lucky if he makes the league.
     
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  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    Same old braves
     
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  41. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    Love 2 b owned by a private media corporation headquartered in Colorado rather than a local billionaire philanthropist.
     
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  42. Where Eagles Dare

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    Don't worry, the battery will allow greater flexibility.


    .....to blow money on Colon. In season? Nope
     
  43. Merica

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    Well that's disappointing as hell.

    Haven't been paying much attention lately but Garcia has seemed like our arguably most reliable starter.
     
  44. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    The one thing I liked about this deal is how quiet they kept it.. Braves broke the story with their press release.
     
  45. SC

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    They had to go to ownership to ask to take on Matt Adams' salary. Dunno why it's surprising they dumped Garcia's salary when they could.
     
  46. jrmy

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    Shit it might have been a condition for taking him on to shed it later
     
  47. FightingCock

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    Probably to eat the dead cost of Bartolo's contract
     
  48. SC

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    KLaw:

    Atlanta got 19-year-old Dominican right-hander Huascar Ynoa, who was pitching in the advanced short-season Appalachian League this summer and had thrown just 25 innings in six starts. He was better last year in the Gulf Coast League, although his line this year is skewed by one real disaster of a start. Ynoa will pitch in the low to mid-90s with a potential above-average to plus breaking ball, and he at least has the delivery and build to be a starter.

    So Atlanta gave up two fringe arms for Garcia, got a win-plus worth of value for him and flipped him for a teenaged pitching prospect with some upside a few months later. That seems like a win to me.
     
  49. bcuga

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    Who is replacing Garcia..has it been announced yet?

    nvm i saw Wisler was recalled..bleh
     
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  50. Baby Boy

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    Bowman:

    Blair will start in place of Garcia on Wednesday. But as the Braves move forward, Lucas Sims might fill that rotation spot.
     
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