Hamilton - The Thread Where It Happens

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  1. Sub-Zero

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    Holy shit this is so well done. Wait for it is awesome.
     
  2. IV

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    Having had a little time away from the musical, I have begun to wonder if it goes a little to soft on some of our founding fathers, especially George Washington

    have some of the resident posters of AA descent commented in here? I’d be interested in their take on the musical overall
     
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  3. dblplay1212

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    They added a couple days to the show here. It was supposed to be last year but rescheduled. Called in to check about upgrading tickets and they let us move dates to the new date where no tickets had been sold yet and from balcony to like 8th row. Lady was super cool and familiar with the seating so helped us get to the best spot. Wife is even more excited now.
     
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  4. dblplay1212

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    I think it's generally agreed that, by today's standards, they were all horrible people. It's overlooked bc of their time and what they accomplished but I don't think there's any denying they were all terrible.
     
  5. Rainbow Brite

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    Christopher Jackson has a couple of interviews where he comments on playing Washington and coming to terms with the ugly part of Washington's life. I think its thoughtful and well reasoned.



    This is a long interview, but I think is really great. First 7:00 minutes are the relevant parts.
     
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  6. tjsblue

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    Yep he frowns and bows at the end in “remorse” which was subtle but noticeable and deliberate.
     
  7. Sub-Zero

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    the biggest critique of the musical is typically along these lines...that it's not 'accurate' a documentary (which isn't its intention). If you just view the musical for what it is: a play based mostly on a single source material (Hamilton biography with writings as told by Eliza Hamilton) then it makes sense in that context. It's not a 3rd party account as much as Hamilton's story (and the other founders) as told by Hamilton.
     
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  8. Illinihockey

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    It feels like people complaining about the treatment of historical figures regarding issues unrelated to the play are people that just want to be mad.
     
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  9. dblplay1212

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    My wife bought pajama pants :facepalm:

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  10. I think those are pretty cool tbch for just wearing to bed or around the house
     
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  11. Truman

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    Im laughing at the facepalm being directed at a single pair of pajama pants and not 10 pairs of the same shoe in different colors :laugh:
     
  12. Fusiontegra

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    Hell, even this is a stretch. I’m reading the biography currently and it’s absolutely baffling to me that LMM read this book and then came up with the story of the play.
     
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    Oh boy here we go
     
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  14. SugarShaun

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    Anyone watch In The Heights? It’s on HBO Max so I’m planning to watch tonight
     
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  15. FadeMe

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    I'm planning to watch it tonight. Pretty excited about it, but I'm a big "In The Heights" fan.
     
  16. tjsblue

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    I’m torn. I want to see it on stage if it ever tours again before watching. But I don’t know that I have the discipline.
     
  17. SugarShaun

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    I would like to but I definitely don’t have the discipline
     
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  18. Dr. Mantis Toboggan

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    Went to the movies and saw it last night. It was a lot of fun.
     
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  19. FadeMe

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    I just know it's going to be better on stage and won't let the movie influence that. Same with Les Mis and Phantom for me.
     
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  20. two

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    In the Heights was great. Jimmy Smits is the man.
     
  21. SugarShaun

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    Agree. Loved it. Ramos was better than I expected as an actor
     
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  22. DirtBall

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    Is it worth signing up for a month of hbo max?
     
  23. two

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    Alabanza hit me right in the feels
     
  24. two

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    I mean you could also squeeze a few shows in there too and get your money’s worth
     
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  25. DirtBall

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    Hmmm. Will watch a couple more times before I give my final verdict. First watch disappointed because someone somewhere in this thread said it was better than Hamilton as a musical. It isn’t.
     
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  26. racer

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    Can’t wait for drunk DirtBall watches In The Heights at 3AM.
     
  27. DirtBall

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    We’re prolly going to run it back after this Hamilton rewatch. I just didn’t hear an Odom, Goldsberry, Diggs level talent in that production
     
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  28. DirtBall

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    Fuck. Soo. Burn. How can you compete?
     
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  29. DirtBall

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    Someday I’ll be there for “It’s quiet uptown” without being a drunken crying white girl…today is not that day.
     
  30. DirtBall

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    I cry errytim
     
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  31. two

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    I prefer Hamilton but In the Heights was awesome as well. Both can be true.
     
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  32. racer

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    Holding out to possibly see it in a movie theater. As with Hamilton I’m also avoiding the soundtrack in advance.
     
  33. SugarShaun

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    Having listened to Hamilton a ton before the play but having never heard ITH before watching, for me listening created a far better experience
     
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  34. Matt Foley

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    Agreed, but I also don’t think ITH is as good as Hamilton. It is still VERY good, it’s just running against a really tough comp.

    I also felt like the music/dialogue volume balance was not optimized for in-home viewing. Feel like I missed a ton of dialogue.
     
  35. DirtBall

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    Definitely did a lot of volume changing throughout
     
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  36. AHebrewToo

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    That was me and you’ve never seen In the Heights as a musical. :)
     
  37. two

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    ^^ also a key point

    One is musical made into a movie and the other is a musical filmed as a movie

    I could see In the Heights being a ton of fun live with the high energy songs/dance pieces
     
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  38. MORBO!

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    In The Heights hit a little too close to home in a lot of ways. Now I’m planning a trip to south Florida to see my abuela.
     
  39. Lip

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    I liked the movie better than the live performance I saw. I only saw the touring cast though, not Broadway.
     
  40. two

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    Helpless —> Satisfied —> Wait for It is just an insane run of songs.
     
  41. Sub-Zero

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    ITH 1 hour in. I'd say the lyrics are easier to follow than Hamilton (I went into both cold) but it's helped by the movie sets and effects. Anyway it's great so far.
     
  42. Watched In The Heights the day it came out and enjoyed it quite a bit but need to give it another listen/watch to see what I really think. I only liked like 30% of Hamilton when I listened to the soundtrack the first time which is insane to me in hindsight. The film had some stunning visual sequences and I have already had 'Blackout' playing on repeat constantly the past week, looking forward to adding more songs to that rotation.
     
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  43. Dr. Mantis Toboggan

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    I’ve been singing the line “tell me something I don’t know” for a week straight
     
  44. Sub-Zero

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    After finishing ITH I just really miss going to NYC. pretty much spent a month a year (total…not at once) there precovid.
     
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  45. AHebrewToo

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  46. duc15

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    Rewatched Hamilton last night so great. Just reminded me how great Leslie Odom is. He is the best on the show
     
  47. WC

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    Other than Washington
     
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  48. duc15

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    nah wait for it alone puts Odom at the top
     
  49. WC

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    I am not upset by this opinion, but I will not agree with it.
     
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    Counterpoint: One last time