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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Fuzzy Zoeller, Jan 29, 2021.
Thread on another board got me wondering.
No. But, it’s one of my greatest fears.
No, but I'm considering it.
Well “technically” yes I have . I ran away from home once and was kicked out of the house once so I guess I was. But, I feel like considering that being homeless is trivializing what OP is asking.
I have not.
Years ago a younger Seavie would have made some "no I'm not a bum" comment. Now I realize that yes, even though I've worked hard for myself, none of it would be possible without help along the way. Also I'm very privileged to be where I am.
No, but when I was younger we had a relative and their family stay in a shitty camper on our property for a few months. I was young and just thought it was awesome to have my cousin around for awhile.
It wasn't till I was older that I understood what was really happening and that they were poor as shit and lost their house.
Was your uncle holding out for a management position?
Gave all his money to the TV preacher who was screwing that hockey player
Did he still have the worm farm?
The older boy was preparing for his career as a pixie dust spreader on the tilta-whirl.
Unless I’m mistaken, that is a cousin Eddie reference.
Have you ever been homeless... on weed?
(seriously, we should strive to use this terminology)
And yeah, when I was at Penn State I basically had to couch surf for a half of a semester because a.) my girlfriend at the time moved away and I fucked up getting an apartment early, and b.) the assholes who ran the university decided to bring dramatically more students to main campus (instead of branch campuses) without increasing the amount of student housing in State College and I was priced out of a cheap place to live. Not exactly homeless since I always had a roof over my head (and I could have gone home to my parents if push came to shove) but I was definitely not doing all that great. I ended up failing a class, took the spring off, and then had to come back the following fall and retake the class to graduate.
Had a similar experience, but found an apartment.
At 21, I made the huge mistake to plan to live with my GF of the last two years and her roommate. We broke up two weeks before I was set to move and I wasn’t on the new lease.
Ended up finding out a friend had a roommate who failed out and moved back home over the Summer, then flaked on coming back. My friend also wasn’t on the lease and the company rented his place out from him when the flake didn’t renew (or tell him about it).
The two of us rented a crack house apartment off of OSU’s south campus. Someone in the complex literally was murdered in their apartment while we lived there.
In Eugene, Or we have our fair share of homeless. In fact, we have one of the highest homeless rates in the country (lots of travelers move here from elsewhere in the US). That being said we also have some great services, which I imagine is some of the reason why homeless move here. If some of these were more of a national plan as opposed to city by city and state by state, we would see a decrease in homelessness nationally imo.
We have multiple encampments that are transitional housing of sorts. They are super cheap to build and give people a break to collect their things in a safe spot and a chance to restructure their life. If you live in a city with high homeless rate, I recommend you talk to your elected officials about implementing something similar.
We also have CAHOOTS (Crisis Assistance Helping Out On The Streets) and they are a godsend. They are getting ton of press after the George Floyd protests as a example to reallocate police funding into a program that does not respond with force. They work directly with EPD and I call the Police Non-Emergency line whenever I see someone having a episode. Additional cities are looking at doing something similar, Eugene has been doing this in some form, since 1970.
No, but lets see how this #WallStreetBets stuff plays out
I’m very lucky to say no. Since I started teaching I’ve had a much better understanding of what homelessness is and the variety of impacts it has. Prior to Covid in our district we had 1 in 7 kids in our elementary/middle classified as homeless. I can’t imagine what that number is now.
it’s so fucking depressing hearing some of the things my 6th graders have gone through by the time they are 11.
Both of my parents were/are teachers and some of those stories about underprivileged children honestly make my heart break.
Look at the Christmas cards that kids send to Operation Santa and tell me we live in a just society.
I broke down crying after reading those this year. Our priorities are so fucked.
Had no where to live for 3 months after Katrina. Could have moved home with my parents, but wanted to finish college. Kept clothes in my truck and rotated friends couches. Really wasn’t a big deal, but closest I’ve been to it
That's a great program, thanks for sharing
No.. haven't lived in a house or had any housing related expenses in seven years, but always had a property with greenhouses, a shop, a camper, water, electricity, wifi. If I do build something nicer on my longterm property it'll technically be a greenhouse and agricultural exempt for as long as I can get away with it. not really in line with the intent of this thread, but I digress..
Did you put all your belongings in a bandanna and tie it to a tree branch and carry it over your shoulder? Were those said belongings a super ball, assorted baseball cards and a few select hot wheels?
I’ve been staying with friends for the past few weeks because of some covid issues but I wouldn’t say I’m homeless. I’m lucky though, I work in an industry that if I want more money I just pick up an extra day.
Yes. Luckily I had a truck but I had to pandhandle for money for gas. I was as low as you can get alcoholic. No body would give me a place even the mission because I couldn’t stop drinking. It’s miserable.
I just never really went home during a couple summers between years in college. Would move everything out of my dorm/apt into my car, basically leave it there for three months while I'd spend a few days at my girlfriend's parents here, friend's house there, sister's house, up to family's cabin, etc. Those were great summers.
I was a complete piece of trash though. Basically wore the same 2 Allman Brothers tour shirts the whole summer one year while crashing on my then girlfriend's parent's basement futon with my shithole '98 accord full of boxes out front. Think they had some concerns, but were like "he says he wants to go to medical school?" They were nice people. I hope they're well.
That's my long winded way of answering "no, but get a load of my privilege"
I thought you only liked crap like Ratt
1. Ratt is excellence embodied
2. Ratt and Allman Brothers are tied for my favorite band. I can't make any more sense of that than anyone else
3. Probably should take another lap on a homeless summer with Ratt t-shirts this time
No but read a relevant article for how KC is addressing the issue this winter. Obviously they’ll get rid of this once the pandemic ends and the convention center has business but most cities/towns have plenty of vacant properties that could be repurposed if their priorities were in the right place.
Yes, when I was around 6-7 years old when my mom left my dad and my real dad absolutely bankrupted my mom. We bounced around living in our car, some skeezy motels, or with some family friends for almost a year. Less than 10 years later my mom was earning well over 250k a year and helped design the software that Walmart still uses to this day for suppliers/buyers.
I love these "let's learn stuff about people" threads
Something I've seen in rural Arkansas is similar to what Duck70 was talking about. Real middle of nowhere towns with small shacks, like the pre-fab sheds you'll see at a home improvement store, that are packed in 10-15 on a couple acres for folks to rent at next to nothing just to prevent homelessness as much as they can in their community. Blows my mind we can't figure this out as a society.
I have never been remotely close to finding myself homeless, but for a long while now I have made it a responsibility to give a fuck because I really struggle with the knowledge that this is the world we choose. I am not some wealthy person. I am small potatoes. But I do have a wall of thoroughly unnecessary sneakers and a habit of paying people to serve me food and drinks and it all feels completely absurd and drives me nuts.
To add on to Duck70 above...
Eugene also now has a small number of amazing mutual aid operations (some modeled after or loosely affiliated with Portland analogs) and obviously some focused activists.
CORE - Community Outreach and Radical Empowerment. They directly engage daily with the houseless to provide them hygiene, survival, and harm reduction supplies, and organize regular "street feeds"
Lunch People - regularly provide free meals in parks (often with awesome assistance from civic minded restaurateurs in the area.) They are in the process of opening up a community kitchen/restaurant that aims to serve a donation based hot meal every day, provide an outdoor donation pantry, and service industry training opportunities for people.
Black Thistle Street Aid - Herbalists and street medics regularly out in the streets.
Stop Death in the Streets - the angry (rightfully) protesty side of things. Out there making it difficult on anybody trying to execute sweeps during the pandemic.
Find these types of operations where you are and help them. Time. Money. Supplies. Every tiny bit helps.
thanks for being a shithead and making fun of one of the most traumatic experiences of my childhood. Hope the yucks you got while typing it out were worth it.
That's a pretty cool story
I kinda want to know more
I fortunately have not.
But I can't even describe what an intense experience it was when I was on a boat that went over to help evacuate Marsh Harbour, Abaco in the wake of hurricane Dorian. Just looking at destroyed houses as far as you could see and then having 80 or so people pile onto the deck of a boat, half of them not quite sure what their plan was except getting out of there, really gives perspective on how fortunate I've been and how quickly it can go to hell.
no because my family loves me too much
My answer is no..thank goodness
My sister has seen a lot of poverty traveling the world working for non profits but going to Africa (Uganda,Tanzania, Kenya) blew her mind. There's poor then there's Africa poor.
The amount of people living in the equivalent of homeless camps in the big cities was staggering and they were some of the more fortunate ones. "Houses" ie tiny sheds built out of random cardboard, pieces of plastic/wood tied together with rope. Just big enough for mats or plastic on the ground to sleep on. No sanitation and have to travel for clean water. If have food eat outside sitting on ground or bucket cooking whatever metal containers they could come up with.
They weren't the bottom of the barrel. They lived meager lives but considered themselves lucky which is hard to comprehend.
I was until I found TMB.
Alright... Some of this is going to sound pretty white trash, but it is what it is. Kind of long so I’ll spoiler.
My dad was a huge piece of shit. He hurt his back working in a warehouse and started drinking a lot and used drugs and was out of work. He’d beat my mom and my brother and I, and the breaking point was when my brother finally had enough (11 at the time) and hit him over the head with a shovel. My mom finally had enough and worked up the courage to file for divorce. He basically took anything we had of value and sold it, emptied what was left in the bank account and took off, leaving my mom to raise us on her own with no education and a low wage job. Only saw him once after that in my early teens, but have never talked to him since. After he left, we moved into a small trailer home in Bella Vista near my grandma because that’s all she could afford. We were barely scraping by while my mom worked an entry level job at a company called PRG Schultz https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history/Oe-Pa/PRG-Schultz-International-Inc.html
We couldn’t afford cable and would rent movies. You may or may not remember how serious movie rental stores took their lost property. We once lent a couple movies we rented to some family friends and they returned them to the wrong video store. Hundreds of dollars in late fees accrued and eventually they filed a lawsuit against my mom. A combination of sickness I had around that time and all the medical bills and the litigation and judgment (a couple thousand dollars) from a couple lost rented movies, my mom wasn’t able to afford rent anymore and we got evicted. All we had was a minivan and clothes. My mom was very stubborn and never liked accepting help from people, almost like she wanted to prove she could do this without the help of someone after my real dad left. We occasionally stayed with some family friends for a month or two at a time, but it would get to be too crowded, so we’d stay in a budget hotel for a month before it got too expensive, and then we’d go “camping” for a week or two at a time... and sometimes we’d stay in a shelter for a couple days. Throughout all this, my mom continued to work her ass off never asking for help. My older brother and sister were more aware of what was going on than I was. I remember it being hard for a few years and never being able to buy clothes, shoes, etc and never being able to afford to eat at any restaurants except on our birthdays.
Eventually, my mom got a promotion and was able to get us into a small house right around my 7th birthday. She started working on a large data project to strengthen the relationship between Walmart and their suppliers by allowing them to monitor sales trends and inventory of their product. The program was called Retail Link and debuted in 1992 on a limited basis and was rolled out to more and more suppliers. It’s still in use today and in fact I use it daily for my work. My mom was one of the people that worked on that project and helped design the software before it rolled out. After its success, she received another large promotion and we were able to live fairly comfortably by the time I was 11 or so, and she bought a 3 bedroom house in Bentonville that she still lives in today. She continued to do very well financially and had a VP role for them. She paid for my sister to go to the U of Arkansas for 7 years out of her own pocket and never accomplish anything cause my sister sucks. She still made us live a fairly modest lifestyle, but we were very comfortable.
Eventually, Walmart cut their relationship with PRG in the early 2000’s and my moms job role was basically eliminated so she tried to work on other various projects within her company but didn’t feel valued for how hard she was used to working. PRG didn’t lay her off because they knew how valuable she was to them, but the stress of not having an outlined role was too much for her and the stress put her in the hospital. She worked so hard for so many years it became an obsession. She decided to resign and got a nice severance where they paid her salary and benefits for a year. I remember seeing the paystubs they’d mail to our house biweekly after she left that company that were over 8k deposits and like ~14k gross. She eventually took a lower level corporate job at SC Johnson while she went back to school to complete her degree that SCJ paid for. She finished her bachelors and then got her masters, and again worked her way up at SCJ and managed their Sam’s Club account. She retires this month after 15 years there and will live very comfortably for the rest of her life. She’s earned it.