**HEAVY METAL** Official Thread.

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  1. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    I tend towards "primitive" Black Metal and experimental Metal for sure but I dig some Death Metal (and Thrash). Mostly the early Swedish stuff (At The Gates, Grave, Entombed, Dismember, Nihilist, Unleashed, etc.) and then stuff like Intestinal Baalism, Incantation, Carbonized, Merciless, Asphyx, Demilich, Atheist, etc. which is more tech-y but still grisly. Some Death Metal with its emphasis on break-downs/grooves is so boring and superficially "heavy" that it's all posturing and little substance.
     
  2. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    And yeah Joker, I was on Rivals under The Weimar Beer Belly
     
  3. Odin

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    Trappist likes death metal? Who knew?

    But really, it's awful that this thread is so short.
     
  4. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    Yeah, I don't listen to Death Metal much anymore but sometimes I'll pull out old albums and really be re-blown away by them. Carbonized is an example of that. I don't like the general direction Swede DM took with AT THE GATES harbinger album Slaughter of the Soul in 1996 (I think) and so I really kind of stopped listening to what was considered "Death Metal" around 1999. I didn't like the general direction it was taking over-all. And the fact that many "Metalcore" bands co-opted the later ATG sound and largely pussified it furthered my disinterest. Though, there were some great later Swede bands that kept the sound kinda going but blurred it with Black Metal aesthetics.





    (from Nord; their most melodic album and the only one I really care for)



     
  5. JokerEyez5

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    @Heavy - Kreator sounds right up my alley already, and I'll be sure to try the others.

    Cooper - Out of those you mentioned, I need to try Flaw and Helmet, but the others are on a pretty good rotation on my ipod.

    @Trappist - I'll keep revisiting this thread to view all your suggestions. I think I might like Nihilist if I remember correctly.

    Thanks yo. Looks like I'll be Skyrimming to a metal soundtrack this weekend.
     
  6. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    I know that most of you guys are more into the technical stuff but I really adore the patient development of some of the ambient stuff and more primitive stuff. It's really stuff that demands your attention and is ultimately very rewarding I think (and some of the only Metal I think benefits from the use of depressant or hallucinogenic narcotics);









    And also punk/post-punk-fueled Black Metal;







     
  7. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    Good fucking god the new Morbid Angel is awful....

     
  8. the Weimar Beer Belly

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  9. Heavy Mental

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    Fuck yeah, it's terrible.
     
  10. Heavy Mental

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    What did you think of my recs, bro?
     
  11. Heavy Mental

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    I hear what you are saying on the pussification of the sound by "metalcore" (I don't include god-tier bands like Converge, Botch in this category even though they are technically metalcore). That said, I really appreciate that first wave of melodic death metal bands from Sweden. At The Gates, In Flames (Colony record and before), Dark Tranquillity (still carrying the flag) are all fucking sick bands who made fantastic albums that I regularly listen to.

    It obviously goes without saying that the other Scandinavian death metal bands that weren't the "Gothenburg sound" were also amazing as well. Dismember was one of the best, it's a damn shame they recently stopped making music. I still rock the shit out of some Unleashed.

    Along those lines, y'all should listen to At The Gate's Purgatory Unleashed live record from their Wacken performance in 2010. Awesome-sounding live album. Trappist, they play a fair number of tracks from The Red In The Sky Is Ours and With Fear I Kiss The Burning Darkness.

    http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/At_the_Gates/Purgatory_Unleashed_-_Live_at_Wacken/264840
     
  12. Heavy Mental

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    Isis, Cult of Luna et al really hit the "patient development" chord for me. Definitely appreciate the soundscapes they create. I also feel like Drudkh does an awesome job of this as well, but I think we discussed that earlier ITT.

    Sorry for the deluge of posts, my tMB interface stopped tracking this thread for some reason and I didn't y'all's replies in my alerts.
     
  13. JokerEyez5

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    Like 'em all, man. To be honest I didn't get into thrash until way into my Metallica years...didn't consider their big 3 albums thrash and didn't like Kill Em All at the time. So once I finally gave KEA a decent shot, I loved it - never left the cd player for months - then in comes the Megadeth influence of the 80s, and you know the rest.

    For the record, Sodom's Remember the Fallen got me from the jump; layman might even think it was a lost Megadeth song. Thanks for the recs.

     
  14. Heavy Mental

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    No doubt man, glad to be of service. :respek:

    We need a fucking metal horns emoticon.
     
  15. Odin

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    Fuck yeah we do
     
  16. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    I used to make a lot of emoticons for the Relapse Records message board back in '03-'05. I don't know what program I'd need on an iMac to continue doing them, but here are my old ones;

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  17. Heavy Mental

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    lol @ Fenriz approves.
     
  18. Heavy Mental

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    Happy new year, metal bruddahs.
     
  19. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    Some proto-Metal psyche-rock gems from the late 60's/early 70's:









     
  20. Heavy Mental

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  21. Heavy Mental

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    Honestly, I haven't been excited about a metal release in a long, long time. This has me stoked. I fucking love Meshuggah.
     
  22. JokerEyez5

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    Meshuggah tonight in my coffee, Meshuggah tonight in my tea...mirite?!
     
  23. Heavy Mental

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    you right son!
     
  24. Odin

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    So guys, I need some help. I've been growing away from metal for the last few months, how should I fix this? I don't like it.
     
  25. Heavy Mental

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    Been feeling the same way bro. I haven't been able to get excited about any new releases over the last 6-9 months. I still listen to all of my old catalog regularly, but the only new record I even care about is the Meshuggah record I posted about above...

    Last good, new album I heard was Origin's Entity.

    :feelsbadman:
     
  26. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    I grew away from Metal for a few years but had some diet staples that brought me back around to it. I don't go out of my way to find new Metal bands anymore like I do some other types of music.
     
  27. Heavy Mental

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    No doubt. I mean, it was my exclusive #1 genre for like 6 years. I got a lot out of it, but I kinda feel like as I've gotten older there is nothing new under the sun that I haven't heard done before in the genre.
     
  28. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    The 'newest' things going on in Metal are just applying non-rock retro-styles and compositional ideas to modern Metal aesthetics (ie. the ambient/drone/avant-garde compositional ideas with Pagan/Abstract/Evil/Satanic imagery and posturing). Artists like Aluk Todolo, Menace Ruine, Dead Raven Choir, SunnO))), Velvet Cacoon, Murmuure, Yrsel, etc.
     
  29. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    So what does everyone listen to, aside from Metal? Like, top 10 non-Metal bands?
     
  30. Heavy Mental

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    I'm really big into electronica. I like electro house, dubstep, glitch hop, trip-hop/downtempo, etc. Not a fan of most of the poppy stuff, however. I'm a huge hip hop fan as well, but most of what I listen to is pretty underground or has a release date prior to 2002. Wu-Tang, 2Pac, Nas, Aesop Rock, just to name a few.

    I also like a lot of the folk bands that I got into through metal (Drudkh's Songs Of Grief and Solitude was a big gateway for me). I like some indie stuff, but it has to be fairly uptempo for me to get into it. I'm a big fan of hardcore punk (and straight-edge hardcore), simply because of the positive energy and intensity of the music.

    So to summarize that rambling diatribe, my tastes are basically:
    • electronica
    • folk
    • hardcore
    • hip-hop
    • metal
     
  31. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    I listen to plenty of electronic music, but none of the house/dubstep/etc. stuff. The closest I can get to some of that is some of the Ant-Zen Records roster and artists like Squarepusher, Muslimgauze, Autechre, etc. but it doesn't hold my interest for too long. I don't listen to any hip-hop...I just can't stand the vocal styling and lyrics (similar to the problem a lot of people have with 'Extreme Metal' forms of vocalizations/lyrical subject matter).

    I listen to a lot of different stuff though: Industrial/Post-Industrial, NeoFolk/Apocalyptic Folk, Psyche-Folk/Rock, Ambient/Soundscapes/Avant-Garde, general Experimental Rock (No-Wave, Shoegaze, Post-Rock, New Wave), Punk/Post-Punk, Country/alt-Country, Prog/Fusion and all its submovements (RIO, Zeuhl, Kraut-Rock, etc), Screamo/Emo. I'd say my top 10 non-Metal bands/artists are:

    Angels of Light/The Swans/anything Michael Gira related
    Brian Eno
    YES (pre-1977)
    Magma
    Boyd Rice and all of his projects
    Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds/Grinderman/anything Nick Cave related
    Current 93
    Neu!
    Six Organs of Admittance/Comets on Fire/anything Ben Chasney related
    Throbbing Gristle
     
  32. Heavy Mental

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    I like that list a lot. Definitely seems like a list someone with a foundation in raw black metal would put together - I'll have to check some of these bands out. I've heard of a lot of them. Current 93 rules, btw.

    I think the overarching characteristic common to all my musical tastes is that there has to be high energy. Even the downtempo stuff that I listen to can have an intense energy, despite the pace being slower.
     
  33. Odin

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    I honestly can't even answer this. About 50% shame, 50% having just no idea.
     
  34. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    Yeah, I don't listen to much high energy stuff, I guess. What high-energy music I do listen to (Emo, Crust Punk, Punk-Black Metal, Thrash) usually has such a dismal aesthetic that its energetic compositional style is almost negated by its depressing subject matter. Some post-rock can be pretty energetic too, I guess. MONO comes to mind.

    Shame? I can't think of anything I'm ashamed to listen to -- the closest I come to that is being a closet Blind Melon fan (really just the 'Soup' album though).
     
  35. Joe_Pesci

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    My metal tastes are pretty shallow compared to some of yours, but I'll just run with the question. Most of the non-metal stuff I enjoy anymore is some variety of prog rock: Rush, Yes, Genesis, Camel, Blackwater Park, Cloudkicker, and so on. I've been blasting The Shape of Punk to Come by Refused the last few days since they announced their Coachella reunion, and I'm hoping for some kind of US tour. I love 80's groups who messed around with the cold-sounding electronic stuff of the time, and I'm a sucker for any female vocalist with a deep soulful voice, so Eurythmics is one of my all-time favorites. I get my usual post-rock stuff in, too. I'd list the bands, but they're the typical bands with 4-word names, so you all probably know them.
     
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  36. Heavy Mental

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    Praying for Refused US tour....
     
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  37. the Weimar Beer Belly

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    80's groups like the New-Wave post-punk stuff (Clan of Xymox, The Cure, Sad Lovers & Giants, Depeche Mode, etc)?

    If you like throaty female vocalists over coldwave electronic music, check out the chick in my avatar; ZOLA JESUS:

     
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  38. Heavy Mental

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    Haha I love that you have a 'go-to' band reccomendation for "throaty female vocalists over coldwave electronic music." The metal thread rules.
     
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  39. Heavy Mental

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    FYI, Joe Pesci, Refused just announced a tour date at the Warfield in San Francisco. This is a small, club-like venue, so one can only hope that a full tour is forthcoming. :rockin:
     
  40. Joe_Pesci

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    :pray:

    I don't really even listen to hardcore or punk, or whatever you'd classify them as, but I love Refused. Not sure why, now that I think about it. In hindsight it's a little funny that a band full of Marxists has a song featured in a movie about Texas football :laugh:
     
  41. Heavy Mental

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    Tickets go on sale today at 12:00 EST for their NYC show. Trying desperately to acquire...:ohnoes:
     
  42. Heavy Mental

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    Didn't get tickets....:feelsbadman:
     
  43. Heavy Mental

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  44. Heavy Mental

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    Man, some of the things posted on the first page of this thread are very un-metal.
     
  45. eHo

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  46. Heavy Mental

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    Odds that there are death vox in the Opeth set?
     
  47. Odin

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    Thread definitely needs to be bumped.

    I've pretty much been blaring constant Mastodon for the last few days

    ........except for a play through of the latest Lamb of God
    :blech:
     
  48. Heavy Mental

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    :respek: Metal contingent in this joint is not the most active crew...
     
  49. Odin

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    In our defense, we aren't exactly the largest group on the board.
     
  50. roggins

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