Help me pick a new car/vehicle

Especially TX trucks that aren’t rusted out.

When my ‘03 4runner dies, I’ll likely look for a J100 or a Lexus 470.

 

2000 4 runner here with around 248k miles....trying to decide when I want to make a switch. Thing just goes

 

Team highlander. Unless you plan to actually do off-roading or a lot of towing, then 4Runner

 

Highlander buyers are lifers.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgor...trucks-and-suvs-owners-hold-onto-the-longest/

Ownership periods for that vehicle are absurd.

 

Subaru is great, always.

In your situation, Ford Edge. Mine is a fucking tank in MI winters and with the new engines they offer they fucking go.

 

I wouldn’t drive an SUV if I didn’t have to. The driving experience of a nice sedan is vastly superior. Wife has a 2017 Edge, couldn’t talk her out of it. I will never understand people’s love for SUVs.

 

I can tell you my reason, AWD is needed up here, so is clearance from the road. I loved my Subies but my Edge makes more sense. I also fit much better. I'm relatively tall. Getting into a "car" feels like falling off a cliff sometimes. That said, my net car is an F150 like my old man has.

 

Some ppl just like the higher view.

Wife went from a Lexus IS to a RX and then had to drive the IS recently and hated being that low/felt like she couldn't see.

I agree that 99% of ppl driving SUVs don't need them

 

I was in the market for a compact SUV. Went and test drove a CRV. Wasn't a fan. While I was there I drove a new Accord Hybrid. Ended up buying it. I love it so far. Getting 50+ mpg around town and it has plenty of room in back seat and trunk. Didn't feel the compact SUV's were all that much bigger.

 

I do like the new Accord body style.

 

I’m a bigger, broad guy so I like the extra room and I like sitting up higher.

 

I highly doubt the energy and resources that go into making a new vehicle allow it to be better on the environment.....

 

I’m sure he’d like a vehicle that has had design and tech updates since 1999

 

Subaru owner here. Who wants to scissor?

 

All these subarau loyalists out here scissoring and there's only one other Mazda loyalist in here to touch tips with.

AHebrewToo

 

Up your bodily Injury liability insurance if you're gonna drive an SUV

 

SP1 are you buying used or new?

 

Highlight of this thread has been the pleasure of seeing CasanovaFrankenstein, esquire posting again.

 

I have been in a few accidents and being in something bigger is just safer for you as a driver. I got rear ended by someone looking at their phone a year or two ago in my truck. I barely noticed it and she hit me hard enough to have to replace my bumper, a large portion of my exhaust, and was close to having the bumper press into the rear quarter panel. Sitting up high is awesome. 4wd is awesome. The utility is awesome (whether hauling people or things). I don't think I will ever own anything other than a full sized truck again as a primary vehicle.

Gas mileage is garbage though. I really loved my car for that.

 

Agreed on all of your points. I’d still say the driving experience is miserable relative to a sedan (body roll, braking distance, poor acceleration due to weight, MPG, etc.)

But to your point, it’s almost the universal adoption of the SUV that necessitates having one yourself. I would my wife to be in an Accord or similar for her short commute, but every distracted driver in a two ton SUV that is surrounded by air bags and crumple zones forces our hand.

If we lived in a rural area and I didn’t need the inventory capacity of an SUV, I’d have a full sized pickup (dirty vehicle) and she’d have a sedan (clean vehicle.)

 

TOYOTA BROS

Drove my Sequoia until it had 255k miles and had legitimately never had a single problem with it. Plan to drive my 4runner at least that long if not longer. They drive amazing, they're cheap to maintain, and best of all you're not driving a fucking mazda or something similarly lame.

 

There are also larger vehicles on the road that are not passenger vehicles. I agree having tons of distracted soccer moms in SUVs isn't a good thing but they're not the only people on the road. You'll be safer if you're in a large vehicle if you get into an accident with a commercial vehicle, as well.

(Anecdote time). I have a relative that was sitting at a stoplight several years ago and someone barreled into them from behind at ~50 mph. Just didn't even stop. Don't think the other driver was in an suv but if my relatives weren't in a Suburban at the time they'd be toast. Instead they got away from the accident with some fairly minor neck injuries.

The drive isn't super enjoyable, I agree. Cars are fun. I really miss driving a manual transmission. That was fun as shit. I wish high mpg trucks were an option besides those newish turbo diesels because I feel awful about the bad mpg. But everything else outweighs it.

 

The thing I miss most about a sedan is not being able to see at night because everyone else is in a truck or SUV with their beams at eye level

Owning a vehicle with more clearance than a sedan is basically an issue of self-defense

 

I have never owned a Toyota but plan to shop the brand exclusively for my next vehicle because of their dual-injection engines.

 

Reminder you wouldn't need a big car to keep you safe if everyone else wasn't driving outrageous stupid vehicles they didn't need.

 

They've done studies where if you are going over 35 mph, it doesn't really matter what you are in...

 

I mean, to beat subaru's drum some more... Take a look at the safety ratings. Consistently ranked one of the highest safety vehicles on the road.

 

That's not true at all. Particularly egregious are the lifted trucks driven by babydicked morons that just roll straight over normal cars and all their saftey features.

 

in the market for a vehicle as well and trying to decide between the Subaru lineup. Leaning towards the Legacy, don't really need a SUV but I'm sort of committed to AWD. Anyone have experience with Legacy's? Any reason to go Outback or Forester instead?

I'm open to other makes/models, trying to keep it under $35k

 

Have '17 Cherokee. Only complaint is the small windows in the back don't offer much help when looking to change lanes

 

Legacy's are great cars but its just like a sedan. If you want something similar that is AWD and you can do a lot with, the Outback is the best at what it does. Roomy, the utility uses. Still drives like a car but is 8 inches off the ground. AWD. Go test drive one and then a Legacy and you will see why people flock to the Outback.

 

Best “car” we’ve owned is my wife’s 2005 Infinity FX 35, can’t find a reason to get rid of it. Lots of power, comfortable, tall, cheap to maintain, handles like a sports car and a lot of bells and whistles. She wanted a newer 4 runner but there just wasn’t a real advantage in doing so, it was taller but that’s it.

I will say it’s just a glorified “tall” sedan. It doesn’t have any more cargo room than a Avalon or Prius really, but it has been rock solid for 11 years now.

 

I did the opposite. I had a legacy for years and it was time to upgrade. Liked the idea of staying with Subaru and a slightly larger vehicle so I was set on an Outback, but just couldn’t get over the look of it. Both drove similar, but if you didn’t get the one with the bigger wheels it just looked awkward. Like it didn’t know if it wanted to be a sedan or a compact SUV.

I got an ‘18 Legacy Sport last year and am a big fan. Has all of the fun amenities and features while being about 8k cheaper than the Outback.

 

I thought i read somewhere that after you are going faster than 35 mph, it

I think that’s why a lot of people go for the outback. They don’t want some massive SUV but want to capabilities. Both are great cars though.

 

You really can’t go wrong with either. Subaru is unmatched in snow conditions and they provide a lot of room for scissoring.

Outback does provide a taller trunk (Legacy still has a great amount of space) and provides rails for transporting outdoor toys. So I definitely saw the appeal when I was looking.

 

Mazda loyalist here, just not chiming in since I'm not in the market on the SUV front. Have 2 Mazda's in the family, I'm a big guy but I still love by 2013 6 speed Mazda 3, insane gas mileage and zero problems out here in the desert. Talked my GF into ditching her Fusion for a 6(almost went for the CX 5), and I have zero regrets(if she found one thing wrong with it I'd hear about it everday forever)

 

I have a crosstrek and a legacy. Legacy is loaded, eyesight, etc. Really like it. Feels enormous when I switch from driving the crosstrek.

 

I have a 16 mx5, gf has a 18 3 and it's a great little car. If only she had totalled her car a few months later we could have gotten the the 19 hatch.

 

But,we need room for the baby, mkay?

 

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Do we have to respect your decision?

 

• 6cyl 4th gen 4wd 4runner with 100-120k miles
• Pay cash
• Drive it to 300k miles