HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: “just one of those days”

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  1. gus_chiggins

    gus_chiggins Where you goin’ with those clubs, punk
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    Joc is also a free agent once again and we definitely need more outfielders
     
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  2. Tobias

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    let’s leave nostalgia in 2024
     
  3. Jake Barnes

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    Assuming we let Minter walk based on that Bummer contract?
     
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  4. gus_chiggins

    gus_chiggins Where you goin’ with those clubs, punk
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    I don’t care he’s the perfect 7th outfielder. I’m joking but he is certainly better than Kelenic
     
  5. Where Eagles Dare

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    Need Joc for Vibes
     
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  6. gus_chiggins

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    Coming off season ending surgery, I wouldn’t be surprised if he signed a one year prove it deal with us
     
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  7. gus_chiggins

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  8. BP

    BP Bout to Regulate.
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    Declined the option on TDA. He's a free agent.
     
  9. seanofthedead86

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    Wonder if they think they can sign him for cheaper
     
  10. gus_chiggins

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  11. seanofthedead86

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  12. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I still can't believe we traded Contreras for Murphy. We need to fire a bunch of our scouting guys for that one. Bill has posted back to back WARS better than Murphy's career high.
     
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  13. One Two

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    TDA is going to take a coaching role with us to groom him for being Snit’s replacement
     
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  14. Clown Baby

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    My opponent for Cobb County comptroller is openly posting that he wants to groom young Filipino men as part of something perverse called “snit’s replacement.”
     
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  15. Tobias

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  16. SummerOfGeorge

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    The only downside to Baldwin being in Atlanta is if they feel like he needs catching reps. However, if they feel good about where he is, I like the idea of him being in Atlanta and catching 30% of game and being behind Murph's shoulder as a bit of a threat. We haven't done it much, but a lot of successful organizations have raised young catchers this way over the years with solid returns.

    And as noted, it's another $8M in your pocket to allocate elsewhere.
     
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  17. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    But we are stuck with Murphy. Not a situation where we can ease him out if Baldwin kills it.
     
  18. SummerOfGeorge

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    I feel confident that Murphy won't be the albatross he was last year. The injury thing clearly messed with him and he never got straight again. He's never had a season even remotely close to that bad offensively or defensively in his career, even ones where he didn't hit for average he still had an OPS of 700+ (his OPS was 636 last year).

    Whether he's a 250/850 ops guy or a 230/725 ops guy is kind of the question, along with the WTF defense shift last year.
     
  19. One Two

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    There is zero percent chance we declined the option on TDA just to save $8MM and rely on Murphy and Baldwin
     
  20. seanofthedead86

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    Alternating catchers every other day was stupid. If you ride with Baldwin and he catches for one guy in the rotation, Murphy is able to get in some rhythm at the plate which is a plus imo.
     
  21. SummerOfGeorge

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    I'd imagine the hope is to sign a different deal, but I don't think we'd be opposed to opening the season with Murphy/Tromp/Baldwin. They love Baldwin and he's not far off at all.
     
  22. One Two

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    I’m opposed to this just fyi
     
  23. gordon bombay

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    Yep, it is not a winning formula switching every game. I am not sure if Murphy ever figures it out but we have to go into next season and at least attempt that.
     
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  24. SummerOfGeorge

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    Which part - Baldwin being in Atlanta or not having TDA? I'd probably prefer Baldwin in AAA playing everyday, but I also think $8M for Travis at this point in his career as a backup is probably not a wise allocation of $$$. If you can get TDA back, as the backup, for $3.5M or something that seems like a win win. Allocating $23M to your catchers is not a winning strategy, especially with those 2. It's also amongst if not the most any team in baseball currently has sunk in that position.
     
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  25. One Two

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    Mind your own business
     
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  26. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    Snit fits every Tromp demographic. This makes sense.
     
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  27. SummerOfGeorge

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  28. SummerOfGeorge

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    Per spotrac last year our full 40 man payroll was $236,433,901. We're currently sitting at 197,480,000 with 35 guys. If you assumed we raise payroll by 5%, that leaves us $50,775,596.

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    Areas to address
    - LF
    - 5th OF/utility IF
    - SS
    - SP
    - possibly backup C


    The Athletic had the following estimates for guys based on fWAR and cost and comps

    Max Fried (SP) - 5 years, $140M ($28M AAV)
    Blake Snell (SP) - 4 years, $110M ($27.5M)
    Jack Flaherty (SP) - 4 years, $92M ($23M)
    Sean Manaea (SP) - 4 years, $76M ($19M)
    Nathan Eovaldi (SP) - 2 years, $45M ($22.5M)
    Luis Severino (SP) - 3 years, $50M ($16.7M)
    Shane Bieber (SP) - 2 years, $30M ($15M)
    Jose Quintana (SP) - 1 year, $9M

    Willy Adames (SS) - 6 years, $150M ($25M)
    Ha-seong Kim (SS) - 2 years, $36M ($18M)

    Teaoscar Hernandez (OF) - 3 years, $69M ($23M)
    Anthony Santander (OF) - 5 years, $105M ($21M)
    Jurickson Profar (OF) - 3 years, $48M ($16M)
    Joc Pederson (OF) - 1 year, $16M
    Michael Conforto (OF) - 1 year, $10M
    Alex Verdugo (OF) - 1 year, $8M
     
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  29. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    By Gawd that’s Juan Soto’s music
     
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  30. Owsley

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  31. One Two

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    I doubt he looks elsewhere
     
  32. ashy larry

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    what tha heck
     
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  33. Louis Holth

    Louis Holth but we also just might be those motherfuckers
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    That is not good
     
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  34. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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  35. Clown Baby

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    I find it kind of alarming that so many of our guys ACLs are exploding
     
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  36. southlick

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    8-12 months??
     
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  37. Louis Holth

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  38. One Two

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    I did deadlifts tonight with a torn meniscus. Someone needs to toughen up! (And I’m talking specifically about Louis Holth )
     
  39. Clown Baby

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    Mew Holth is a big ole wimp
     
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  40. One Two

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    We should really learn to be more forgiving. His carpal tunnel from putting together puzzles has adversely affected his posting
     
  41. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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  42. Clown Baby

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    Marilyn Manson going door to door trying to shock people
     
  43. gus_chiggins

    gus_chiggins Where you goin’ with those clubs, punk
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  44. Louis Holth

    Louis Holth but we also just might be those motherfuckers
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    I see what you bitches are saying about me and I do not like it
     
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  45. SummerOfGeorge

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    Would be very open to signing Eovaldi for a 2 year, $40M deal similar to Charlie a few years ago. Has had a sub-4 ERA for 5 straight years and has started at least 20 games in all 5 seasons. Hasn't shown any signs of wearing down (WHIP of 1.14 & 1.11 the last 2 years, BAA under .230 both years, 8+ K/9 consistently).

    Sale
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    Waldrop, AJSS both get more seasoning in AAA. Ian as a 6th man. Somebody trades us for Elder because AA is a wizard.

    Sign me up
     
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  46. gus_chiggins

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  47. gus_chiggins

    gus_chiggins Where you goin’ with those clubs, punk
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  48. Clown Baby

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    When AA says the words “financial flexibility” I get rock hard
     
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  49. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Supposedly a pretty team friendly market for shortstops. Dodgers just said mookie is going back to the infield. They have a bunch of guys and shouldn't be looking.