HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: FUCK...We suck again!

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  1. Reggie Washington

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    Did not realize Carpenter was 38. May be the end of the road for him
     
  2. Festus McBadass

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    How much was Carpenter making?
     
  3. HtownTide

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    $5M
     
  4. Where Eagles Dare

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    How much bad money have we taken on this offseason? Seems like a decent bit
     
  5. Papa

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    Unless Kelenic turns into an allstar everyday left fielder, seems like AA got worked a bit this off-season
     
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    We’ve got almost nothing in the farm system, ownership has the treasury locked up like a nunnery and we don’t have a lot of holes to fill. Idk what y’all are expecting.
     
  8. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    WE ARE 5th IN PAYROLL AND ARE EXPECTED TO WIN 7 MORE GAMES THAN THE SECOND PLACE TEAM

    WHAT IS HAPPENING
     
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    It's okay to be a little critical of our Lord and Savior AA. Bryce Elder started the pivotal game 3 of a 5 game divisional series just a couple months ago and the game was over in the 3rd inning he couldn't make it out of. Starting pitching is still a hole. Hang the NL East banner though.
     
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    Those regular season wins area awesome.
     
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    They are
     
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    We’ve done nothing but make great moves this off-season.

    Not sure what else you could ask for
     
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  16. gus_chiggins

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    Bullpen is already far better than last year. Just need a SP. Obviously prefer an awesome one, but whatev
     
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  18. gus_chiggins

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    Mythical pitchers don’t count. Need a real one
     
  19. One Two

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    Guys we missed a big day yesterday

     
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    Alex interview with the athletic

    Two months after getting outscored 20-8 in four playoff games and being eliminated quickly by the Phillies for the second straight year, the Braves look largely the same today.

    General manager Alex Anthopoulos has added some depth to the bullpen with Aaron Bummer and Ray Kerr and made a five-player trade for left fielder Jarred Kelenic, a once-coveted prospect who failed to meet expectations with the Mariners. He also said goodbye to Eddie Rosario, Michael Sorokaand Kyle Wright.

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    But it’s basically the same team that hit a wallafter a second straight 100-plus-win season. Spring training is still almost two months away. Anthopoulos has time to make a significant trade for a starting pitcher — the White Sox haven’t yet moved Dylan Cease. Anthopoulos tried to sign Aaron Nola and he was engaged in trade talks with Tampa Bayfor Tyler Glasnow, who ultimately went to the Dodgers. But at this point he’s comfortable with the roster, largely attributing playoff exits to the randomness of postseasons.

    “I don’t have any doubt about us when it comes to makeup, character, resiliency — all that stuff,” he said. “Look, when you don’t win, everybody is pointing to things and looking for reasons, which I understand. It’s fair. That’s part of sports. ‘Why didn’t you win the World Series? You were super talented.’”

    Anthopoulos generally avoids on-the-record interviews in the middle of winter, other than mandated appearances like after trades, signings and league meetings. But he made an exception this week, speaking to The Athleticon a variety of topics, including reflections on the postseason, his roster decisions since and why the Braves were never in on the pursuit of Shohei Ohtani, who signed a large — but unusual — contract with the Dodgers.

    The following Q&A has been edited for clarity and brevity.

    OK, so why didn’t you get Shohei Ohtani?

    He’s a great player and obviously the Dodgers are a great organization. We just can’t — we get asked this all the time: Do we react to what other teams are doing? You can’t. You have to do what’s best for your organization. You still monitor what other teams are doing. But we’re much more in tune with what the other four teams in our division are doing.

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    Though Atlanta didn’t go after Shohei Ohtani and GM Alex Anthopoulos is comfortable with the roster, he did say the Braves have “engaged clubs and inquired on trades.” (Adam Hagy / Getty Images)
    I was kind of half-joking. But when you saw how the contract was structured with mostly deferred money, did you stop and think, “Hey, we actually could’ve done that?”

    There was so much speculation about what he would get. But if you look at what the net present value numbers are, they’re kind of in the range of what people thought. What threw everybody for a loop was $700 million but (the value) ended up where it was supposed to end up. I don’t really have a strong opinion of the contract one way or the other because arguably he’s one of the best players who’s ever played because of the two-way component and he should get the biggest contract. But look — there’s still the CBT hit. Our payroll is in the top 10. We have some guys making pretty big salaries. But we’re set up more to spread it around. That’s the decision we made when we signed all of these guys.

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    Similarly, your team has not been referenced at all in negotiations involving Yoshinobu Yamamoto. It’s the usual big-market bidders.

    I can’t talk about guys who are still free agents.

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    You alluded to this, but when you see the Dodgers and other teams signing big-name free agents, how much do you factor that into your offseason strategy?

    I don’t. We’ve been in the postseason six times and we’ve played the Dodgers three of those times. So we’re aware of it. But we’ve been asked about that in the past when the Phillies and the Mets got some great players and we’ve gotten off to slow starts, but what I’ve said was we need to play well ourselves. We focus on our roster, our team and our needs.

    When you had time to reflect on last season, with a great record but another quick exit, what were your thoughts?

    We had as strong a regular season as you can have. The record, the eight All-Stars, the home run totals, the offensive numbers. The postseason is a four-game sample size. But, yes, you need to win. It definitely felt like we were light from the left side in the bullpen. Tyler Matzek and Dylan Lee should be back (from injuries). Having A.J. (Minter) and getting Aaron Bummer and Ray Kerr, we’re giving (Brian Snitker) depth and options from the left side. We tried to add left-handed relievers at the trade deadline but it was hard. When you get to the postseason, you use your bullpen a lot more. Everybody talks about the “nightshift” (in 2021) — three of the four were left-handed.

    But was it just the bullpen?

    We didn’t hit obviously. But I didn’t have any doubts (about) how good of an offensive club we had. We had four extra-base hits in four games when we had one of the best slugging teams in history. We weren’t going to overhaul the offense. We weren’t the only team that had great players and didn’t get it done. I don’t want to take anything away from the Phillies. There’s no doubt we didn’t get the job done. But I’m very comfortable with our offense.

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    We often talk about the randomness of postseasons but can that also be an easy way out?

    No, because for the majority we’ve been a similar group for six years, from the manager, the front office, the coaching staff, a lot of the same core players. We had two years where we went deep into the postseason. Our two best regular-season teams were the last two and we didn’t go deep. I don’t think anybody can point to any kind of formula.

    When you looked back on the season, did you consider that you were missing any sort of intangible quality, whether it was on the field or in the clubhouse, that you had in 2021?

    I saw that, I heard that, I read that. I don’t think that had anything to do with it. There were a lot of moments last season, despite not having Max Fried and Kyle Wright for most of the year, when we came in and got it done. Beating the Phillies in Philly to win the division. We hadn’t won a series in L.A. since 2012 and we won three out of four there. We had adversity. I don’t have any doubt about us when it comes to makeup, character, resiliency — all that stuff. Look, when you don’t win, everybody is pointing to things and looking for reasons, which I understand. … I remember doing a town hall last year and somebody said the team with the best record doesn’t often do well in the postseason. There was no correlation. All the teams that make the playoffs are good teams.

    Some starting pitchers have changed teams this offseason. Dylan Cease hasn’t been traded, yet. How hard have you pursued a starter and what’s the consideration in trading a core player to land one in trade?

    We pursued Aaron Nola (who re-signed with the Phillies). Beyond that, we’ve engaged clubs and inquired on trades. The starters who have been moved, and one specifically, we didn’t need to trade core players off our roster. It would’ve been a prospect-based deal and we had the prospects to do it and we elected not to. Obviously, we’ll find out three, four, five years from now if that was the right call. It’s similar to when guys like Spencer Strider and Michael Harris were prospects and we elected to hold those guys as well, and we’re glad that we did. It’s tough to judge because you’re trying to project out what guys will be. So far, I’ve elected to say no.

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    The Braves have explored adding a starting pitcher during the offseason, and another objective is to resolve Max Fried’s long-term situation. (Geoff Burke / USA Today)
    What’s the extent of your concerns with the rotation in 2024 and 2025, when Max Fried and Charlie Morton could be gone?

    We’re always mindful of down the road. But after 2019, I would’ve told you Mike Soroka will be a mainstay in this rotation. After ’21, I would’ve told you Ian Anderson will be a mainstay. After ‘22, I would’ve told you Kyle Wright will be a mainstay. It shows you the volatility of it. We have a lot of young guys. (Huascar) Ynoa should be ready for spring training. Anderson should be starting a rehab assignment sometime in June, which hopefully means by early July he’s back. We have the returning guys in Charlie and Max and Strider. Bryce Elder was an All-Star but he wore down at the end of the year. AJ Smith-Shawver has a tremendous ceiling and he just turned 21, and we’re excited about the kid we drafted last year, Hurston Waldrep. We’ll know so much more about the composition of our 2025 rotation at the end of 2024.

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    Fried is one year from free agency. Negotiations to this point have gone nowhere. Is there anything new you can say about his future? (Thought bubble: This feels like Freddie Freeman and Dansby Swanson all over again. Anthopoulos also has previously noted the unique nature of Fried’s situation, since he’s becoming a free agent later than most at the age of 31.)

    Same thing I’ve said in the past. We have him for sure in 2024. We love the player. Beyond that, we’ll see where that goes. I would never say anything else. I know there’s been times when we’ve gotten something done and you didn’t know until the press release came out.

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    Braves newcomer Jarred Kelenic excited for fresh start with perennial contender

    Letting Eddie Rosario go wasn’t unexpected. How do Jarred Kelenic and potentially Vaughn Grissom fit into the plans in left field?

    Having a young left fielder with a young right fielder and a young center fielder — Ronald (Acuña Jr.) is the oldest of the three. Vaughn is 23 and we’ll see how he looks in the outfield in Puerto Rico. The last four, five years, we’ve kind of had a revolving door in left field — Eddie Rosario, Adam Duvall, Robbie Grossman. We now have a chance to have a young core piece out there, whether that’s Kelenic or Vaughn or a combination.

    So is the goal this year to NOT win 100 games?

    Hah. I know, right? It’s kind of crazy. These were the first two 100-win teams as a GM I’ve been a part of. It’s like anything else — you need to give yourself as many chances as you can and the best way to do that is to get in, and you see where your roster’s at at that time. You try in the winter to protect yourself and do what you can. If we started the season today, I feel we have a good offense, rotation, bullpen. But you still need to go out and do it.

    Should we expect a major trade between now and spring training?

    I have no idea. We’re sitting here in the middle of December. It’s still pretty active. There’s still a lot of conversations. There’s also dominoes that get impacted — somebody gets signed and another player shakes loose in a trade. We still have at least another six weeks, and even then, you’re two weeks from reporting. So there’s still time.

    (Top photo of Alex Anthopoulos greeting Ronald Acuña Jr. during the Braves’ World Series ring ceremony in 2022: Adam Hagy / Getty I
     
  21. SC

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    This is very good.
     
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    They had me until they said we have a full rotation
     
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  23. Festus McBadass

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  24. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    All of this is quite contrary to what I’ve read in this thread
     
  25. Clown Baby

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    Who are the 4th and 5th theys in this sentence
     
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  27. One Two

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  29. gus_chiggins

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    Saw something on Twitter a few days ago saying Eddie is considering playing in Korea next year? Haven’t seen anything else since
     
  30. jrmy

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  31. gus_chiggins

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  32. Tobias

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    really makes a max extension a tad more likely
     
  33. Jake Barnes

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    Seems p obvious we don't have the prospects to satisfy the Sox for Cease and I haven't heard much from the Montgomery camp. I know there's risk involved with his injury history, but boy, there aren't a lot of better options walking through that door, and the extra arb year + team history may let you bake in a slight discount on him.
     
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    3 just because I want to listen to Greg Maddux stories
     
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    Table 4 might storm the Capitol.
     
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    3 because maybe Halle Berry shows up
     
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    table 1 did storm the capitol
     
  38. Tobias

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    matt murph and money are three of the nicest humans on earth so give me 5
     
  39. wes tegg

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    Almost made my joke about 1, but I didn’t want to libel our Baby Boy.
     
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    he was too busy putting together a powerpoint to show chipper that sandy hook did happen so he missed the storming
     
  41. Clown Baby

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    Yeah but Brian McCann will just yell over them
     
  42. Room 15

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  44. Tobias

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  48. gus_chiggins

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    Happy Holidays, redacted!

    Shitposting in here with you guys is truly one of my favorite parts of baseball season. Nothing but the best to you and yours!

    except for user quick