HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: FUCK...We suck again!

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  1. Tobias

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    i hate puig but i am sure that i would love his antics for the braves
     
  2. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    My two big take aways were Ender, Dansby, Ozzie not necessarily being untouchable.

    And teams preferring Wright/Anderson/Wilson to Soroka and Touki.

    Varying levels of surprise there.
     
  3. Nug

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    Levels of "don't care" to "please don't trade:"
    -Ender
    -Dansby


    -Ozzie

    and

    -Wilson
    -Wright
    -Soroka

    -Anderson


    -Touki
     
  4. Festus McBadass

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    I’m 100% against trading Ozzie just for the fact I want Ron to be happy.
     
  5. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    And also that he played in 158 games, hit 24 HR, and stole 14 bases as a 21 year old in his first full major league season.
     
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  6. Gin Buckets

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    For reference:

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  7. Sterling A

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    there’s basically no chance david peralta doesn’t get traded right? what would reasonable compensation for him look like?

    Jeff Sullivan: I think there’s some chance — he’s in his 30s, he’s a non-elite corner outfielder, and there are only so many buyers right now with such a need. But he’d be a clear fit in, say, Atlanta. Maybe Arizona could come away with someone like Kolby Allard, but they might have to aim a tier lower depending on how many alternatives the Braves are looking at
     
  8. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I'm about to pick Kolby up and drive him to Arizona. Weather is going to be too shitty here for flights and I don't want anyone to change their minds.
     
  9. PrinceWimbley

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    30 HR, 87 RBI, .293 AVG, .868 OPS for Allard? Yeah, I’m in.
     
  10. Reggie Washington

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    Would take it in a second. Love peraltas game
     
  11. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I find that national writers have a super inflated view of Allard. I don't think they've seen him to know his velo is down.
     
  12. SC

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    That, and this thread also probably has a too-low opinion on him. There's a middle ground somewhere where his actual value lies.
     
  13. Degausser

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    I don't see how he succeeds ar the major league level without perfect command. All of his pitches look incredibly average.
     
  14. SC

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    I don't disagree to a large extent, but Kolby also had pretty much close to elite command for large amounts of time in the minors. Of course, that didn't present itself in his cup of coffee in ATL. Was that nerves, injury, something else? Who knows. But he's likely better than he showed while also not as good as national evaluators rate him.
     
  15. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Pederson would be an amazing fit. He probably goes to the top of my wish list.
     
  16. Nug

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    Pederson and Puig

    for

    Inciarte, Teheran, Allard, Waters/Pache, one more?

    Going MLB The Show in here.

    Would still need an arm.
     
  17. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    That's a terrible trade for us. Inciarte exponentially most valuable outfielder in the deal. And we are including a top 25 prospect and a guy in Allard with some value?
     
  18. Nug

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    Fine, they can throw in Kershaw as well
     
  19. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Surely we are all over Puig/Pederson
     
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  20. Where Eagles Dare

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    Dont get thr hype Around Joc.

    He hits way below average and doesn't have enough power/OBP to make up for it
     
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  21. Arkadin

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    Would've been third in ops on the braves last year :idk:
     
  22. SC

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    Slugged .522 last year. That seems good.
     
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  23. Where Eagles Dare

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    I mean, I'd take him with his low salary and we don't have a LFer
     
  24. Where Eagles Dare

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    Career high year too. Is that real or he the 400 slugger the other years
     
  25. Clown Baby

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    Let’s not forget that Kolby is our third best hitter
     
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  26. Arkadin

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    One of those was 495
     
  27. bcuga

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    Joc would be a power left handed bat to balance the lineup out.
     
  28. Where Eagles Dare

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    And the two other were 407/417
     
  29. Arkadin

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    Right. Half the years were premium slugging numbers and he's 26 and just put in his best year of his career. Dudes pretty good and significant slugging upgrade to everyone not named acuna of Freddie
     
  30. Where Eagles Dare

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    Right, which is specifically my point of...
     
  31. Arkadin

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    I was speaking more to this point where you said you don't get it :idk:

     
  32. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    His career wRC+

    2015 116
    2016 128
    2017 100
    2018 126

    Fangraphs projects 2019 at 129.
     
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  33. Degausser

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    Joc would be a great addition. Dude plays hard as hell and has lots of pop from the left side. Yes pls.
     
  34. Degausser

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    In one of those years, he still hit 26 bombs. Last year he hit 25 in only 443 PAs. For comparison, Kakes had 705 PAs last year.
     
  35. Nug

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    Need to go hard after Puig/Pederson to help get Harper out of the NL east, too.

    Either of them would fit perfectly with what we need. I want Puig for the Antics and the [latin american? Island? Spanish?] trifecta
     
  36. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    I want Joc and Grienke by week’s end. Thank you AA.
     
  37. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    We'd also have 3 cfs in the outfield. Fits AA's emphasis on defense.

    Btw, Puig would be amazing as well.
     
  38. bcuga

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    No thanks on Greinke. Braves can do better.
     
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  39. Degausser

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    Wonder what LA is looking for in return
     
  40. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    :roll:
     
  41. Degausser

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    I still want MadBum
     
  42. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    If you want a lefty throwing sub 90s fastballs, might I interest you in Kolby Allard?
     
  43. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I think Greinke is still a really good pitcher. Not worried about his age because he's already made an adjustment to pitch with diminished stuff. Getting out of that park would help a ton too.

    Now that contract.. Woof.
     
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  44. bcuga

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    Kluber is the correct answer
     
  45. bcuga

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    Yea he is good but not good enough to justify that contract
     
  46. Degausser

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    Is his velo really that low at this point?
     
  47. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    I would expect it to bounce back a little after a healthy offseason but yeah, he was pretty average last year.
     
  48. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    I don’t think we would eat the whole contract. If we did, more power to Liberty Media as we wouldn’t have to give up much.
     
  49. bcuga

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    Greinke would be like having a second Teheran with 90 mph fastball