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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by One Man Wolfpack, Jul 2, 2016.
Did you see what he did last year?
I’d be willing to take on Sale’s contract if the Sox throw in Benintendi. They can have Kyle and Alex Jackson in return.
No, but I’ll take anyone not named Kakes or Ender
He's horrible now. Literally hit 100.
He’s 25 and he played 14 games
marcy going to the nats would disgust me on a deep level
If we can get Ozuna back for that and we don’t do it then I give up.
Need to get Bauer get Lester
Need to get Bug Bear get Shin Soo Choo
I will gladly vote against issuing a shareholder dividend if we can get Marcell for 18-20 million dollars a year
The universal DH is happening one way or another and I can live with Ozuna’s shitty defense for a year if Manfred and his clowns slow play it. But what’s gonna really piss me off is when AA is all over the radio and TV rationalize letting Marcell walk because we value defense and our budget and blah blah blah.
It’s also gonna suck watching the Nats and Mets spend wildly
I think we found Fredi Gonzalez’s burner account. Nice try Fredi, but there is no need for veteran presents here.
well thank god I haven't posted my John Lester takes.
The one thing Jim Bowden is usually pretty good on is contract amount predictions. From his top-25 out today:
5. Marcell Ozuna, LF/DH
Age: 29 B: R T: R HT: 6-1 WT: 225 WAR: 2.3 OPS+: 175
Ozuna signed a one-year deal with the Braves last year to prove what he can still do with the bat, and that included a league-leading 18 home runs and a .338/.431/.636 slash line. I’m expecting he’ll be rewarded with a multi-year contract from someone this offseason. The biggest question that Ozuna will have to deal with is if baseball is going to implement the universal DH or go back to the National League rules in 2021. MLB reportedly will not use the universal DH in 2021. If that’s the case, it will hurt Ozuna’s chances of maximizing his contract, and he might have to once again sign a one-year contract with an American League team, then go back to free agency when the universal DH is implemented again in the NL in 2022 as expected, to finally get that long-term contract.
Best fits: Braves, Twins, Rangers, Cardinals, Brewers.
Contract prediction: 3 years, $54 million.
6. Charlie Morton, RHP
Age: 36 B: R T: R HT: 6-6 WT: 216 WAR: 0.2 ERA: 4.74
Morton finished third in the AL Cy Young Award voting in 2019 and the two-time All-Star had another impressive postseason this year, going 1-0 with a 1.80 ERA in the Division Series against the Yankee and then 2-0 with a 0.00 ERA against the Astros in the ALCS. His only poor postseason start came against the Dodgers when he got knocked out in the fifth inning in his only World Series start. Morton has dealt with shoulder issues over the last couple of years, so it’s important that whoever signs him does an in-depth physical on him. However, if he’s healthy he’d be a solid free-agent signing for any contending club. He’ll probably have to sign a one-year contract with a club option loaded with incentives and award bonuses.
Best fits: Yankees, Nationals, Twins, White Sox, Braves.
Contract prediction: 1 year, $14 million.
9. Marcus Stroman, RHP
Age: 29 B: R T: R HT: 5-7 WT: 180 WAR: N/A ERA: N/A
Stroman decided to opt out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns, and it remains to be seen how this could affect his free agency. I’ve heard from multiple general managers that their interest would be only in a shorter-term deal due to not being able to scout him this year, while other GMs said they think he’ll do OK regardless thanks to a shortage of available starting pitching. Stroman made 32 starts in 2019, going 10-13 with a 3.22 ERA between the Blue Jays and Mets.
Best fits: Angels, Red Sox, Twins, White Sox, Astros, Mets, Brewers, Rockies.
Contract prediction: 3 years, $45 million.
11. Michael Brantley, LF
Age: 33 B: L T: L HT: 6-2 WT: 210 WAR: 1.5 OPS+: 126
Sometimes there are baseball cliches that are so fitting that you just have to use them, and “professional hitter” is one made for a player like Brantley. He’s hit .300 or better in each of the last three seasons and he covers the plate both horizontally and vertically, with the ability to hit fastballs, breaking balls and off-speed pitches at all locations and velocities. He’s a quiet leader in the clubhouse and is a tremendous mentor for his younger teammates, a winning player who hits for average with 15-20 home run type power.
Best fits: Astros, Indians, Cubs, Braves, Cardinals.
14. Brad Hand, LHP
Age: 30 B: L T: L HT: 6-3 WT: 215 WAR: 0.7 ERA: 2.05
It was quite shocking that not a single major-league team claimed Hand on waivers, considering his club option was only $10 million and just a one-year commitment. That could be a foreshadowing of what could turn out to be one of the coldest winters in free-agent history. Hand produced another solid year, as shown by his 2.05 ERA in 22 innings, allowing just 13 hits and 4 walks while punching out 29 batters and leading the league with 14 saves. He hasn’t had an ERA over 3.30 since 2015. The three-time All-Star should be sought after by most contending clubs.
Best fits: Phillies, Nationals, Braves, Mets, Angels, Red Sox, Dodgers, Cubs, Reds, White Sox, Athletics, Rays, Twins, Tigers.
Contract prediction: 2 years, $16 million.
18. Adam Wainwright, RHP
Age: 39 B: R T: R HT: 6-7 WT: 230 WAR: 0.5 ERA: 3.15
At 39, Wainwright continues to make adjustments and finds ways to win. He finished the year with a 5-3 record, 3.15 ERA and a 1.051 WHIP. His leadership qualities are special and he has earned the right to finish his career with the Cardinals. His contract situation is tricky, though, because the Cardinals have overpaid so many of their veteran players, like Matt Carpenter, but really haven’t taken care of Wainwright the last few years. After the solid year he just delivered, I would think they’d give him a respectable base with a ton of incentives if he can repeat what he did this year. I can’t imagine him in another uniform, but I can also see a contending team jumping in and outbidding the Cardinals for his services.
Best fits: Cardinals, Braves.
Contract prediction: 1 year, $8 million.
23. Mark Melancon, RHP
Age: 35 B: R T: R HT: 6-1 WT: 215 WAR: 1.0 ERA: 2.78
Melancon had a solid year that included saving 11 games with a 1.279 WHIP and 3.72 FIP. However, his strikeout rate was his lowest since his rookie year and his walk rate was his highest since 2011.
Best fits: Braves, Phillies, Angels.
Contract prediction: 2 years, $14 million.
24. Shane Greene, RHP
Age: 31 B: R T: R HT: 6-4 WT: 200 WAR: 1.0 ERA: 2.60
Greene is one of the better set-up relievers on the free-agent market and the keys for him have been his cutter and change-up where opponents have hit just .182 against the former and .167 against the latter.
Best fits: Braves, Phillies, Angels, Twins, Athletics, Rockies.
Contract prediction: 2 years, $12 million.
25. Blake Treinen, RHP
Age: 32 B: R T: R HT: 6-6 WT: 225 WAR: -0.2 ERA: 3.86
The Dodgers took a $10 million free-agent gamble on Treinen last offseason, and although he didn’t live up to the contract, he was obviously an important piece to the world champion Dodgers bullpen this year. Treinen finished with a 3-3 record with a 3.86 ERA, pitching 25 2/3 innings and allowing 23 hits while walking 8 and striking out 22. His sinker is still nasty, but just not consistent enough for him to become a closer again.
Best fits: Dodgers, Angels, Red Sox, Nationals, Braves, Cubs, Blue Jays.
Contract prediction: 2 years, $12 million.
Again, I’d give Marcell $18 mil in a heartbeat but didn’t he turn down something like 3/50 this past offseason?
What they could do: Re-sign Marcell Ozuna, sign or trade for a starting pitcher.
What we predict they will do: Trade for Kris Bryant, sign Mike Minor.
The Braves have done well the past two seasons bringing in veteran players on one-year deals: Josh Donaldson and Dallas Keuchel in 2019 and Ozuna in 2020 (although Cole Hamels didn't work out as he made just one appearance). Look for a similar road map for 2021, meaning Ozuna is likely to move on, as important as he was to the lineup. Bryant would be a similar gamble as Donaldson, a former MVP coming off an injury-riddled season. The Braves have the young pitching the Cubs would seek in a trade. Minor had his first success with the Braves and while his ERA regressed in 2020 from an outstanding 2019, he had similar peripheral numbers."
Mike Minor fucking sucks and so does Kris Bryant. Team Big Country
Kris Bryant is a hard pass at this point.
He gonna make 20mm too, right?
Yea, price tag too high imo. He'll get paid based on his MVP season, but he's nowhere near that player the past 2 years.
Hopefully he comes back.
Giving up prospects to acquire a shittier yet equally expensive version of Bug Bear is peak Barving
I mean I'd give up a Kolby Allard type player and they take ender. But if trade for him and don't sign BUGGY B I'm going to need you to invite me to a board meeting so I can address the ownership group
This here’s my associate, stuhly, and he don’t take kindly to “no.” So can we resign Ozuna or what?
We missed our window to win one didn't we? Fuck I wish we had a owner that likes to spend recklessly.
I mean this is dumb, like all our core is 23 besides Freddie.
Our window is just opening, but we need to fucking come through
Bruv, we’ve got the literal MVP, a future MVP and a couple of guys who will consistently challenge for the CY. The window is just opening.
Now that the liberals have stolen Georgia I wouldn’t be surprised if a good and honest company like Truist tried to sell. Not sure who would buy it though. Maybe George Soros.
I was being dramatic because I hate the ownership.
Is there some eccentric tech billionaire out there that loves Atlanta and real estate?
I can't tell if this is satire or if you're really a chud?
Fred, Ron, TdA and Bug all won the silver slugger
He’s a total chud
Stroman off the board, Took the qualifying offer.
They could still deal him though, correct?
How did we get stuck in a division with three aggressive owners...Phillies, Nationals, and Mets are all primed to spend now
Liberty is primed to spend
on capital improvements. Rumor is they're buying a new mechanical bull for PBR
Yes. It’d be what the Braves did with Rafael Soriano back in the day, basically.
I want to invest back in the pen. You think we try and see what Folty, Newk, etc have for the 5th spot again?
God I hope not
Folty is a free agent.
Bowman did a mock opening day roster yesterday.. He had us signing resigning flowers and Ozuna, signing Lester and adding nothing to the pen.
curious if we start to stretch out matzy or if he just becomes an andrew miller type antifa super soldier to deploy in the pen
I just don't think you can rely on any of those guys as a starting option. Folty may want to head elsewhere too, who knows what the relationship is between team and player at this point.
I'd like to fortify the pen as well. Just depends on how much $$ they have to mess around with.
i love the hot stove
i get its only $1m but for a franchise that cries poverty all the time, every penny counts to being able to afford the actual good players/the loubias holiday party