HoF Smoltzy v2.0: FUCK

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  1. Clown Baby

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    Yeah, but as a Liberty shareholder, God bless ‘em
     
  2. FightingCock

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  3. Sterling A

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    Does this mean we all should be outraged? No because their is still 3 months before opening day and a lot of time left, but I don't think we are fully stating how "under payroll" we are at this point:


    Atlanta finished 2018 with a team payroll of $136 million according to Cot’s Baseball Contracts. That total was a franchise record but ranked just 19th highest in baseball.

    With $25 million already added to the payroll with the signings of Donaldson and McCann, Spotrac shows the Braves currently have roughly $77 million invested in eight players. Another seven are projected to total just over $27 million through arbitration by MLB Trade Rumors ($104 million), which brings the total to roughly 25-30 million below even 2018 payroll as of this writing.


    So yes AA should be given the benefit of the doubt until opening day. If the payroll is still 10's of millions below 2018 then something is seriously wrong. However, not time to panic yet
     
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  4. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Oh, we could only have one or the other.
     
  5. FightingCock

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    History says you need a complete pen, not just a closer
     
  6. SC

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    Instead we'll just cherrypick some stats and ignore that Robertson's been consistently very good for almost a decade now.
     
  7. SC

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    Assuming that this means his grievance was shot down, this should lock in Atlanta getting the 9th overall pick as compensation.

     
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  8. One Man Wolfpack

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  9. Room 15

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    Damn carlos reads this thread
     
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  10. FightingCock

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    So what do we have? 9 and somewhere mid 20's?
     
  11. SC

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    9 and 21.
     
  12. ashy larry

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    really bummed about stewart
     
  13. Sterling A

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    If Atlanta doesn't sign a free agent outfielder or trade for one, is there a chance they may give Austin Riley a crash course thus spring to see if he is even a feasible option in right? He surely has the arm for the position, I would just be worried about his speed and mobility.

    Jeff Sullivan
    There was already preexisting talk about him getting some OF reps in spring training. I expect them to address the outfield eventually, but I also think we'll see Riley start to move around if he isn't traded


    What should the Braves do about their RF hole at this point?

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    I think someone like Derek Fisher would make for an interesting buy-low, but they could conceivably do that *and* reunite with Nick Markakis since I can't imagine his market is all that strong
    The Padres also have an outfielder or two to move, if you feel like trading a young hard-throwing pitcher
     
  14. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    2:45
    Eric: I know you don’t want to comment on other teams rankings or reporting, but Baseball America’s JJ Cooper said on the Braves podcast today that among their Top 10 prospects, Atlanta is pushing Cristian Pache in trade talks with other teams. Have you heard the same thing?


    2:46
    Kiley McDaniel: I’ve heard a different name as the one they’d like to move if they have to move one
     
  15. BamaNug

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    I'm OK with moving Riley, one of Waters/Pache (prefer to keep Waters), and an arm.

    That should be good enough for Trout
     
  16. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    3:00
    v2micca: Of the six pitchers that made your top ten in the Braves prospect list, how many of them to you expect to still be in the Braves organization this time next year?


    3:00
    Kiley McDaniel: over/under of 4.5
     
  17. Sterling A

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  18. jplaYa

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  20. Sterling A

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  21. SC

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    That feels like trade negotiating/leveraging more than anything else. “No, no, we’re *totally* fine rolling with Duvall. We definitely don’t need to give our right arm for your guy.”
     
  22. JeremyLambsFace

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    Also, I don't see anything leaking out of this FO unless it's absolutely a message that AA wants out there to push a narrative.
     
  23. Sterling A

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  24. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    I’m fine with this. DUUUUVVALLLLL
     
  25. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Surely, he couldn't be as bad as last year.
     
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  26. Where Eagles Dare

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  27. Where Eagles Dare

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    Gonna be hilarious when our payroll is 30mm less than last year
     
  28. FightingCock

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    Or we are holding that money back for Harper. Trading JT for MadBum etc
     
  29. Where Eagles Dare

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    Narrator: We aren't holding back
     
  30. Boom TittyMilk

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  31. Sterling A

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    wish we could of gotten him, but not for that price. almost 20 million? :blech:
     
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  32. FightingCock

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    Lots of folks overpaying for pen help. The. You see them cut loose at the deadline for peanuts
     
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  33. Sterling A

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  34. SC

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    I think the worry for Kimbrel might be that is his AAV ceiling isn't much higher than $14-15M either.
     
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  35. FightingCock

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    I'd love to have him, but I'd rather have a quality OF and SP first
     
  36. SC

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    Agreed. If Kimbrel's still out there in two weeks though, could get interesting.
     
  37. jplaYa

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    One thing I will say about CK is that he’s been healthy pretty consistently. At least if you pay more you feel like he’ll be there to play.
     
  38. FightingCock

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    If we trade JT for something of value (say an OF) it would be great
     
  39. Connor Norman

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    This is freaky

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    Is this real? Retweeted by Eric Cole.
     
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  41. Sterling A

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    guess Vegas expects us to be a lot worse
     
  42. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    Or that the NL East is going to be a very tough division?
     
  43. BamaNug

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    As we're constructed now, I think 84 is a fair number. Hopefully we make 1 or 2 moves to make that number seem low
     
  44. Tobias

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  45. Sterling A

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    Seems like Ian Anderson’s spin rates are super low on the board. Is a 91-94 FB with a spin rate of 2175 RPM really above average? Or a curveball at 1700 RPM? I know the write up acknowledged he wasn’t a spin rate maven, but wow those are low.

    Kiley McDaniel: Yes, they are. His feel for pitching will be key going forward


    How do you compare FV by age and position? Is a 55 FV pitcher who is 19 really as valuable as a 55 FV catcher who is 22 and on the brink of the majors?

    Kiley McDaniel: Yes, that’s folded in the rankings. Generally speaking, that 19-year-old 55 FV would have some real chance to be a frontline arm (think Mackenzie Gore), while the 22-year-old one would be a less risk, less upside version like Kyle Wright and they also went 2 picks apart in the draft.


    Is Freddy Tarnok the real deal?

    Kiley McDaniel: I’d wait until this year, but the markers are there for a breakout


    Not including international signings, 11 of the Braves’ top 12 prospects were drafted in 1st or 2nd rounds and have 45+ FV. Is this fairly common or does this highlight the skill (or luck?) of their scouting department?

    Kiley McDaniel: There’s lots of lists where the top is all top 50 overall picks and top 15 July 2 bonuses
     
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