House of the Dragons - TV ONLY thread

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  1. Where Eagles Dare

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    Gotcha. Wasn't sure if there was some weird custom they were supposed to follow trying to claim a new dragon of someone who died.
     
  2. drewru

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    It’s a problem for those of us with huge dicks. You may not understand.
     
  3. Tarpon Nole

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    I don’t think there is, but someone will chime in if I am missing something

    I guess my point is only the royal targs would even have access to the dragons (though there are wild ones as daemon mentioned). It’s not like randos would have a chance to get close enough or try and grab one for themselves
     
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    Yeah, get the pool is small.
     
  5. Where Eagles Dare

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    Good video on Dragon sizes. No spoilers

     
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    Question that I'm not sure I can even attempt to Google without running into spoilers. What are the differences between the books Fire & Blood and Rise of the Dragon -- and their relationship to A World of Ice and Fire? I don't think I feel like waiting 2 years for the next installment
     
  7. Tarpon Nole

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    fire and blood is a history of the targs. This show is based off the second half of the first book (second one isnt published yet). It is “written” by a maester, and he uses various sources, including a jester from the court, It is not a true history book. It’s an expanded version of the princess and the queen story.

    rise of the dragon is a coffe table/picture version similar to the world of ice and fire

    basically these fuck has written three versions of the same story but can’t finish asoiaf
     
  8. Pharm

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    There is no custom that was in the fire and blood book that was mentioned.
     
  9. NYGator

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    You should just stop. Hole is getting deeper. This is the interwebs and something feels off.
     
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  10. drewru

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    It was anti-climactic. There, is that easier for you to swallow?
     
  11. Upton^2

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    “I would rather feed my sons to the dragons than have them carry shields and cups for your drunken, usurper cunt of a king.”
     
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  12. Baseballman86

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    Based on how they showed them in GoT, Drogon is obviously way smaller than Vhagar but bigger than that chart seems to indicate.
     
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  13. NYGator

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    I think you are still in the minority there, ridiculous and "tried too hard" analogy or not.

    Great episode from my perspective and that Dragon fight scene was so much better and realer than I could have imagined. Maybe the best bit of CGI we have seen from any of the previous series or this to date.
     
  14. Pharm

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    It’s straight from the source material and they did a pretty damn good job building to it. Storms end and the dragon scene were visually stunning.

    maybe they could have chronicled jaces time with the starks before having him die but chronologically this likely happened first. I’m not sure what you wanted the show to do
     
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    You’re probably right about the CGI, but to me, I think that’s splitting hairs- most CGI in high budget productions like this one is pretty damn good. Also, “realer”…it’s a flying dragon battle scene, I don’t know that realer is the right descriptor.

    I’m sorry you didn’t like my analogy- maybe if I had used one involving a stillbirth you’d appreciate more…fucking awful scene. I may be in the minority but I would have liked to have seen more happen before they go on break for another two years.
     
  16. drewru

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    Agreed, visually stunning. I’ve not read the source material and can appreciate they are sticking to it, but expected more of the finale. Unlike the books, I can’t just turn to the next page to advance the story. My main issue is where they ended the first season.
     
  17. CF3234

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    HE'S BLOODY WELSH
     
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    they ended it at a good spot at a perfect spot bc when whatever happens next starts you wouldn’t want it to end either
     
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    I’ll take your word for it. Still could have done with a shorter still birth scene though, fuck me that was hard to watch.
     
  20. CF3234

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    my pregnant wife went from watching some horribly tragic rom com series on Netflix to a stillbirth scene on HoD in a span of 10 minutes. Not great bob.
     
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    Damn, sorry she saw that. It made me cringe and I am neither pregnant, or worse, gone through a similar experience. Have to imagine there are some folks who were badly triggered by that scene, making it even more unnecessary.
     
  22. CF3234

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    we found out she was pregnant like 2 days before the season premiered. 3 horrible childbirth scenes later...
     
  23. drewru

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    Oof. Sending positive thoughts you and your wife’s way for the next 6 months or so.
     
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    its all good. nothing but good news so far. it just hit her in the feels hard for obvious reasons.
     
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  25. NYGator

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    I hated those scenes but my wife was obsessed with making me watch them and imagining that in a real world not so long ago that was the norm. Loves to remind me of how shitty child birth was even after 15 years since our last child was born, and considering she never had a bad birthing experience (compared to others). It is like a sport for her.
     
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  26. Tarpon Nole

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    that chart is based off their size in ADWD which is the last published book. They are larger than that in the shows because they grow more
     
  27. Tarpon Nole

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    Google says drogon in the last season of GoT was smaller than Ceraxes and probably close to Meleys and Syrax. So basically smaller than Daemon’s and close to Rhaenyra’s and Rhaeny’s

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  28. Tarpon Nole

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    Isn’t there an episode of GoT that shows the dragon skulls and they discuss the dragons?

    Could have sworn there was one more episode that talked about the dance besides Joffrey episode with Margaery in the sept and the Shireen episode where she reads the dance to stannis but I can’t find anything on YouTube
     
  29. Handcuffed

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    i read that they need more time for the dragons to grow and to better train them for filming
     
  30. TLAU

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    I can agree that the birth scenes are a little drawn out and too frequent.
     
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  31. Where Eagles Dare

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    Fuck....some of these dragons are 100 years old. Can't we just do another time jump?
     
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  32. Tarpon Nole

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    I was mashing up multiple scenes in my head

    Cersei standing next to balerion’s skull. Although I think it would probably be bigger than it is here. Some smaller skulls are shown:


    Viserys talking about the skulls and dragons dying out but the clip is so chopped it’s hard to watch and figure out what he’s talking about
     
  33. Killy Me Please

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    Odd. Arrax looked tiny compared to Vhaegar. He looked like a velociraptor And Drogon looked bigger than him.
     
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  34. Pelican

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    Part of the reason that last scene was so effective was the sheer terror on Aemond's face. He's almost exclusively had this calm/stoic expression ever since the eyepatch and the whole "I seriously just fucked up" look was great. Even when Rhaenys was staring them down in the previous episode he didn't seem all that worked up about.
     
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  35. Arrec Bardwin

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    Right you’re still confusing that the pic is from like season 5 I think.
     
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  36. Tarpon Nole

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    Under drogon and his siblings, there is fine print “as of ADWD”. That’s how big they are in that book. The show went way past the published books, so they obviously grow. Drogon is likely on that second line by daemon, rhaenyra, and rhaenys
     
  37. xec

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    I hope I have this right. At the start of GoT there hadn’t been a dragon in Westeros for one hundred or so years. Their sizes had gradually dwindled until the last few were the size of house cats. I think this was attributed to confining them in small spaces and not letting them be dragons, so to speak.
     
  38. Tarpon Nole

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    yeah pretty much. Think it also had to do with magic going out because the dragons died out as well

    in my head there was a scene from the show explaining this, but I think it was a few different scenes my memory was mixing together
     
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    I think part of the explanation was in the conversation between Jon and Danny while waiting on Tyrion and Cersei to talk about going north
     
  40. zeberdee

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    the maesters killed the dragons.
     
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  41. xec

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    This is likely.
     
  42. Tarpon Nole

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    ehhhhh I think we can officially count out the maesters for like 95% of the dragons deaths
     
  43. zeberdee

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    semantics.

    the maesters conspired to drive the dragons to extinction.
     
  44. SpartanGA

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    How awesome that someone has the time to make such a comparison/chart. In addition to TikTok and podcasts about all of this. Hell, I try to find the time just to watch the show.
     
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    yes it was completely an oh shit that shouldn’t have happened look by aemond.
     
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  46. Tarpon Nole

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    that diagram is nothing. Google “grand northern conspiracy” and see what these nerds have come up with. Basically thesis papers lol
     
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  47. Corch

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    What are the odds some of these eggs Daemon has end up being the ones that Dany is gifted?
     
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    Zero, unless the show decides to do something different. Those eggs were stolen from Kings Landing some 50 years earlier
     
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    most think it’s the 3 eggs stolen by Elissa Farman who was friends with princess rhanea. When they searched for thr eggs they were told they were just stones
     
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    Just a book spoiler. Doesn’t impact the show at all.
    She fled Westeros with them and supposedly sold them to a Sea Lord in the Free Cities and she went to the shadowlands beyond Asshai (were Melisandre is from). Danys eggs come from the Shadowlands, so it’s most likely those. The Sea Lord could I taken them there or her selling them was just a rumor.
     
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