#HTTWFTEST1932 - Freedom

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  1. Gunners

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    Might be the most toxic franchise in sports right now
     
  2. Where Eagles Dare

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    Twitter stat...

    Bruce Allen would need the skins to go 16-0 in back to back years and would still be 2 wins shy of Jeff Fisher's career record.

    :laugh:
     
  3. enjj

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    Top 3 for sure.
     
  4. ButchCassidy

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  6. Fudd

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    Yes
     
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    Smokin' Jay lives again
     
  8. Where Eagles Dare

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  9. JBF76

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    It's time for Jay to go. It's not app his fault this shit is going on, but he's not helping the situation. Just cut ties, and start over.. again.
     
  10. Where Eagles Dare

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    Jay, Bruce.. Take the franchise from Dan. Sell it, whatever
     
  11. Gunners

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    Dude, it's time to realize this franchise is completely fucked. I believed up into RG3's rookie year, after he went all wedding registry and other nonsense/it was all over.
     
  12. LSUTigers1986

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    Dan Snyder should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell.

    Would you like a cookie?
     
  13. enjj

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    Can’t wait for next Sunday’s game. Gonna be a classic.
     
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  14. JBF76

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    This is as embarrassingly low as it has been in the Snyder era... That in itself is an amazing achievement.. I don't have enough negative things to say about the entire organization, and I've loved the Redskins for my whole life. It really fucking sucks.

    :feelsbadman:
     
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    SELL THE TEAM YOU COWARD
     
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  16. enjj

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    Bump... just to see 3 Redskins team logos at the top of the board.
     
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  17. ned's head

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    Wonder if they just give urban the keys for a few months as a project
     
  18. Where Eagles Dare

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    Already gave it to Bill Callahan
     
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    What a goof. Could have been a risk free way to see if he could cut it in the nfl for all parties. Worst case scenario would be a good draft position
     
  20. ButchCassidy

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    Your guys' thoughts on Haskins? ESPN radio seems to be really down on him, even though he's barely played. Assistants have been saying he's 2 years away from being ready.

    I don't think he should be forced in there, as Washington has one of the worst lines.
     
  21. Dukes

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    Hard to really have an opinion at this point. He didn’t look very good in the preseason or when he played against the NYG but this team is a train wreck so might as well throw those performances out the window. He clearly has the physical tools hopefully he can continue to improve going through progressions and reading defenses.
     
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  22. Where Eagles Dare

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    2 years would be pretty disappointing. He looked bad in a quarter of playing time, but I don't want to juage him fully on that.
     
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  23. enjj

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    Sit him all season.
     
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  24. Gunners

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    Thought he looked decent in the preseason and while I don't think he's ready, think all of it is way overblown. Just a toxic franchise that's filled with leaks and political bullshit instead of getting stuff done. Sure Haskins isn't ready, don't think Tom Brady is ready to play quarterback with this setup. Line is terrible and commits penalty after penalty, no running game, and 1 real weapon that happens to be a rookie.

    Aldridge pretty much nails it in this article.



    Firing Jay Gruden means nothing with Bruce Allen still in charge, spouting bromides


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    By David Aldridge 18m ago [​IMG]
    ASHBURN, Va. – The Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz said he did not agree with the premise of my question. I was, strangely, unmoved by this, considering it was Oz and all.

    “Last year at this time, we were in first place,” Bruce Allen said Monday afternoon, “and we were doing well. So it was working pretty damned good. Unfortunately, our quarterback got injured. The pieces are here for a winning team. We have to put them in the right place, believe in each other, and keep fighting for our goal. There’s only one way to win: you have to work. And you have to get better and you have to beat your opponent. And that’s what we have to do.”

    It was the last question Allen took Monday, from media not interested in the least about his rationale for firing Jay Gruden, Gruden merely the latest former employee to get paid by Dan Snyder to go away. The local reporters who cover this football team every day may be right about some things and wrong on others, but they’re not stupid. Gruden’s coaching, lax though it may have been over the last five-plus seasons, was not and is not the sole reason Washington is 0-5 and headed for another playoff-free January.

    Gruden was, simply, the most recent manifestation of the insanely awful culture that Snyder and Allen continue to swim in, daily, in their bubble of (in)security, where nothing is demanded of them. There is no accountability for the decade of horrific football they have overseen and produced. Coaches get hired, and paid, and get fired, and blamed. Players get paid, commit penalty after penalty every week, and never get benched, which is why I asked Allen why he has been so uniformly bad at culture setting since he became Washington’s top football executive.

    On his watch, Washington gave the keys to Mike Shanahan and took them from Gruden. Snyder and Allen endured the end of Jim Zorn’s hilarious reign, hired and fired Shanahan, and then went with a strong general manager model in Scot McCloughan – whose reputation they then crushed on his way out the door. They brought in a business executive with NFL-burnished credentials in Brian Lafemina to actually try and be honest with fans and torched that notion, and Lafemina’s job, within months.

    Nothing has worked.

    Fifty-nine, eighty-nine and one tie, in 10 years, with Allen either completely in charge or at least having a significant say in the matter. Incorrectly, I assigned Gibbs II, which ran from 2004-07, to Allen’s scorecard when I asked him about his inability to set that consistent winning culture. That was on Snyder, of course, but Snyder is no more likely to sell this team and leave the public square as I am of growing a third foot.

    The rest of the time in which Allen spoke on Monday was an amalgam of every banality he’s uttered during the rare occasions he speaks with the local press. Everyone is working really hard. Everyone really cares. Everyone really wants to win. (Among his most hilarious statements: “Dan makes himself available from time to time.”) At least Allen didn’t continue to opine how close his team is to breaking through and turning things around, though he spoke glowingly of all the young talent on the roster.

    “We’re all involved in this,” Allen said. “I don’t want to hide from things that didn’t go the way we wanted them to go. All we can do is work.”

    Except, Snyder and Allen, clearly, don’t know the first thing about what they’re doing, unless what they’re trying to do is continue to run a once-proud franchise into the ground.

    They’re running a frat house, where they’re jointly Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, and they’re damned glad to meet you. Meanwhile, the Patriots’ fans’ invasion Sunday was merely the latest opposing team humiliation imposed on the home team at FedEx Field. (A local TV guy demanded an apology from Allen for all those fans in Patriots’ jerseys Sunday, and as I assume he’s from the news side of the newsroom, I’m not at all mad that he didn’t know this has been going on there a long, long time now.)

    Allen will continue to ostensibly front Snyder’s efforts to get a new stadium in D.C., and with the mayor continuing to now play lovey-dovey with the team she once insisted would never set foot again in the city until it changed its name, perhaps that’s coming sooner rather than later. And, then, possibly Allen will mercifully depart the stage, his epitaph assured of at least a reconsideration among the remaining diehards who still bleed burgundy and gold.

    Until then, Bill Callahan will finish out the season as interim coach. Then Snyder and Allen will then gas up Redskins One, drop money from the sky on the next guy looking to plump up his (401)K. Then they will talk again about how close they are, how they have their franchise quarterback in Dwayne Haskins (and, maybe that’s true), and how they’ve amassed a whole bunch of first-round picks on the defense. They just needed the right guy to get the most out of Haskins and the D, and here he is: Nick Saban/Ryan Day/Lincoln Riley/Todd Bowles/Eric Bieniemy/Your Name Here.

    And they will continue to misunderstand that in the NFL, everyone makes the playoffs every once in a while, and maybe go deep into the postseason on occasion. That’s not cause for celebration; it’s the NFL, a league built in the hopes that every team finishes 8-8, and where winning can come to mean nothing at all if you’re merely happily splitting $39.6 billion in national TV revenue 32 ways before you sell a single ticket, hot dog or parking space.

    That’s not the same as building a franchise that a community can be proud of supporting, that does things the right way, every day, and doesn’t take shortcuts, and not only spends money but builds…that word again…culture.

    New England, the occasional hefty fine and owner, uh, indiscretion aside, still has built a culture of winning for two decades.

    Green Bay has culture.

    Pittsburgh has culture.

    Washington has Last Call.

    “You’re a very bad man,” Dorothy told the Wizard toward the end of L. Frank Baum’s classic children’s book after the Wizard had been exposed as a fraud and charlatan from Kansas.

    “Oh, no, my dear; I’m really a very good man, but I’m a very bad wizard, I must admit,” he replied.

    Bruce Allen, it must be emphasized as to be as accurate as possible, is not from Kansas.
     
  25. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yeah, nothing is going to change with Snyder there

    Even if he fires Bruce, zero hope
     
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  26. Where Eagles Dare

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    Reports out of DC is Snyder wants to hire Mike Tomlin. #1 choice by far.

    :roll:

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  27. allothersnsused

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  28. Where Eagles Dare

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    Guess we'll get the #2 pick
     
  29. enjj

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    What’s going to happen with Trent? I know it’s the Skins but they have to realize they need to trade him right?
     
  30. allothersnsused

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    It came out today that they have been telling other teams he is unavailable which is an entirely different story than just asking too much. Just so fucking Skins it hurts.
     
  31. Where Eagles Dare

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    Maybe that's a negotiation tactic??

    I can't imagine they're serious. Trade deadline is in two weeks.

    If they are offered a 1st you have to take it.
     
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  32. enjj

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    Trade Williams, cut high priced talent and build around young QB. Not hard to figure out.
    Except these are the Skins.
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    Let's wait until the very last day.

    Great work Bruce.
     
  35. allothersnsused

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    Reports that the front office wants players instead of picks for Williams. Just laughable.
     
  36. Where Eagles Dare

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    :laugh:
     
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  38. D. Silver

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    DAMN GOOD CULTURE!!!





     
  39. enjj

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    If the Skins can lose next week v Jets, they could potentially run the table for the rest of the season. A top 2 pick is likely in that case.
     
  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    We'll somehow fuck it up
     
  41. Gunners

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    Did you know that Bruce Allen decides which plays to replay. Guy sits upstairs, likely pounding beers and shots and is also our replay guy.

    I didn't think we could do worse than Vinny Cerrato but we have, bet Snyder lets Bruce Allen fuck his wife while he jacks off in the corner.
     
  42. enjj

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    Ya I know.
     
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    Excellent
     
  45. Where Eagles Dare

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    Decided to take a flier on the Skins D vs a shit Jets team.

    It's not going well.

    Lil worried about Haskins future. Probably shouldn't have played at all this year

    Get #1 pick. Hopefully trade back a little, get more picks a d take the top LT?
     
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  46. enjj

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    Hard to say on Haskins. Has zero weapons and a shiite O line. I’d hope for the top pick and move back a spot or two like you said. And get some value for Williams.
     
  47. enjj

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    Bloody hell.
     
  48. Gunners

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    If we miss out on Chase, gotta be Andrew Thomas
     
  49. Where Eagles Dare

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    Hopefully we can trade Trent for some decent picks and get more help
     
  50. enjj

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    Skins have played better down the stretch, albeit it in garbage games. If the draft were today they’d be picking 4th. Lose both final games and they will pick 3rd at least.
     
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