Husk City: I don't want to engage in discourse with you!

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  1. Tommy Jefferson

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    I don’t see how Sims starts. Call him questionable all week and say he’s not 100% as a easy excuse to keep him on the bench
     
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  2. The Hebrew Husker

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    Yeah and if he isn’t healthy next week but comes back vs Michigan even if he played good he’d be the scapegoat for the loss.

    I think they’re in a “tough” spot now where Sims either has to play perfect for like 5 games straight or you ride HH until proven otherwise.
     
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  3. NCHusker

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    I can't think of a single justifiable reason to give Sims his job back
     
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  4. Kent Pavelka

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    I wonder how sims would have performed yesterday. At least a few times Haardvark ran instead of throwing a risky pass. Not sure Sims has the ability to decide against a pass if it’s not there
     
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  5. The Hebrew Husker

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    Yeah I’ll be interested to see how HH looks once we get to conference games. I think you do have to ride with him until further notice but the difference in competition is notable.

    At the very least with HH you have a guy who will be around for a few years. So best case he improves/develops as the season goes on and you have something for the future. Worst case he isn’t great and you have to get a portal QB which is probably a need anyways.
     
  6. Biff Bridges

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    You can't? I doubt it. I'd like to see Sims play an overmatched team like HH did last night. It would've looked differently but we're still 0-2 with HH playing the last 2 weeks. Comparing his performance against NIU to Sims's against Minn and CU is silly. They both stink.
     
  7. RonBurgundy

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    Trying to truck a LB instead of going out of bounds or sliding. Kid isn’t going to survive the year.
     
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    yeah that ain’t gonna fly in the big. Fans love it when he’s doing it to 170 pound DBs from the MAC. Hope coaches tell him to be smarter
     
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  9. Nelson

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    yeah no, purely based on turnovers alone
     
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  10. Biff Bridges

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    So there's no nuance or grey area in the discussion? Cool.
     
  11. OHW

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    HH never played from behind or in any pressure situations too. I think his main advantage over Sims is that his instinct seems to be to tuck and run when the throw isn't there instead of forcing it.
     
  12. The Hebrew Husker

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    Other thing that helped was our RBs actually were able to pick up some yards so it opened up the play action and zone read type plays.
     
  13. The Hebrew Husker

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    Damn I knew LaTech was supposed to be worse than NIU but we’re 22 point favorites lol
     
  14. football501

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    For Volleyball context, Stanford was down 2-0 to Louisville and came back to win 3-2. Florida went in on Wiscy set one
     
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  15. IowaHuskerFan3

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    I’m assuming this was why Fidone went with the shhh.
    lol
     
  16. DirtBall

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    That’s hilarious
     
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  17. NCHusker

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    What particular aspect of Colorado's talent and scheme led to Sims inability to catch a snap?
     
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  18. NCHusker

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    I'm not convinced we even win yesterday with the Sims we've seen so far this year. He's been soooooooo bad
     
  19. Nelson

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    classic lkrfn1736637282816
     
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  20. Biff Bridges

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    Is this a serious question? You clearly know the answer. Sims dropping the snap had nothing to do with the opponent, obviously. We all agree.

    However, comparing Haarberg's "performance" against NIU =/= Sims vs. Minn and CU. They're both terrible QBs, especially when it comes to throwing and reading defenses. If they would've used the same vanilla game plan with 1 read throws the first 2 games like they did last night, Sims would've looked better. Sims still gives us a better chance to beat real teams.

    To be clear, they're both terrible and we're arguing over which pile of shit smells better.
     
  21. Biff Bridges

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    @lkrfn in roooooooins
     
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  22. OHW

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    Nebraska's winnable games are against some pretty awful offenses. I look at it as HH is the safer choice and Sims is probably the higher risk/higher reward QB. I'd take safe since like 17-21 points is what Nebraska is gonna need to beat the teams they could reasonably beat.
     
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  23. Bo Pelinis

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    Quit trying to make sims happen. He’s dogshit
     
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  24. Bo Pelinis

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    Haarberg played a mostly unremarkable but smart game yesterday. There’s literally nothing Jeff sims has done to think he’s capable of that.
     
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  25. NCHusker

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    It was not a serious question.

    But I am struggling to understand how a more vanilla gameplan would have prevented Sims from fumbling constantly. Maybe he wouldn't have thrown it straight to the defense so often. So I guess then he'd have been slightly better than the worst scholarship QB I've ever seen suit up for Nebraska
     
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  26. Bo Pelinis

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    Haarberg had one questionable decision in the passing game yesterday. Even with a bad opponent that’s a pretty good hit rate for husk qbs for 24 attempts
     
  27. Nelson

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    Bears repeating that there is an ample sample size of Sims playing P5 college football already and folks it’s not good
     
  28. NCHusker

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    And back to the oringal point - Haarberg just did everything you could have expected him to do. He honestly played really well. Competition was worse, sure. But he demonstrated an ability to play the position competently.

    Sims in two games has shown the opposite. His low IQ plays single-handedly cost us at least one win. I don't see how you can justifiably bench Haarberg for Sims at this point based on the things they have both done in meaningful football games.
     
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  29. Bo Pelinis

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    Haarberg had a couple opportunities to force bad throws but didn’t. He made one bad throw over the middle that would have probably been picked against a better team.

    Still he tended to run or throw the ball away. The risks he took weren’t stupid and mostly low risk high reward (like that Fidone sideline throw/catch). Had a couple dicked up read plays and still managed to get yards and not fumble.

    Obviously still need to see it against a better team but he did everything you could ask for in start #1.
     
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  30. Bo Pelinis

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    Man needs to chill on trucking people though jfc
     
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  31. OHW

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    You know how they make players who fumble carry a ball around campus? They gotta make HH wear slides around campus until he learns how to slide.
     
  32. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    I mean you can see why it's a tough call, Sims vs Haarberg, though, right?

    Sure, Haarberg didn't really F anything up. But I don't think he's even as good as Logan Smothers.

    ***If*** Sims could get his shit together, he's the better athlete, the better arm, the guy with years of P5 starting experience.

    So I don't fault our coaches for being enticed by the notion that if Sims turns it stupid, we win several more games than we ever could with our other QBs.

    But the size of that "if" is huge, so I agree with you. I just think it's a little silly to pretend there's not some ambiguity with the decision
     
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  33. Bo Pelinis

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    No I don’t see why it’s a tough call at all. Seems 100% obvious Sims is unplayable
     
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  34. Bo Pelinis

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    Hey I wish this zebra would change its stripes


    Doesn’t change anything.

    ah well nevertheless
     
  35. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Look I agree there's a right answer here, but it's gonna look a lot less obvious the first time we trot the haardvark out vs a team worth a shit.

    I'm not, like, advocating for Sims to start here. I think it's just a lot more agonizing to shuffle these useless QBs than you're making it out to be
     
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  36. Bo Pelinis

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    I don’t think it’s agonizing at all. One guy legit lost you two games because of terrible decision making and unforced tiny baby errors. That should turn him into a black sheep that never plays again. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills needing to point this out.
     
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  37. Bo Pelinis

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    The mistakes sims made in the first two games are unacceptable in 4-6 grade football.
     
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  38. Bo Pelinis

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    I don’t think Haarberg is good or maybe even mediocre. He’s just not the worst husk qb I’ve ever seen which makes him better than sims. Like very obviously
     
  39. Bo Pelinis

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    Like, the upside for Sims is 2 touchdowns in 8 quarters against two bad/mediocre defenses. What the fuck am I missing
     
  40. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    I guess my opinion is we have a colossal fuckup with some natural ability and 2 FCS QBs. Yay us.
     
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  41. DirtBall

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    Kentucky is #21 but also is 2-5
     
  42. DirtBall

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    Holy shit they’re good
     
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  44. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
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    Choboy and Krause both out and we still look amazing
     
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  45. DirtBall

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    They fucking rolled them
     
  46. Bo Pelinis

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    Haarberg has more natural ability than you’re giving him credit for. I don’t think he’s a QB but I think he could be an NFL tight end.
     
  47. RonBurgundy

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    I’ve been to 4 husk volleyball games and that dancing weirdo is always there in the front row looking super weird everytim
     
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  48. Bo Pelinis

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    Our volleyball defense is ridiculous and I love it so much
     
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  49. EdmondDantes

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    you're going to need them both because Sims is injury prone and Vark seeks out contact like crazy. if Sims is healthy I'm guessing Rhule goes with him against La Tech to build some confidence with a quick hook if he fucks up.
     
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