I don't think you read my message. What I said is that his genes would die out because he's an idiot.
Also when people say "both sides" and one of the sides is science it annoys the fuck out of me. Science already considered every side
Agreed, although there have been instances of obvious papers being retracted and there is a concern that much of what is published is not able to be reproduced, but these knuckle-dragging neaderthals don't even have enough critical thinking skills to attack the "science" side from that angle anyways. Science should always be its own critic in a just society.
Yes. That's the point of science. That's about as bad as people claiming scientists make millions to come up with the answers the government wants
My hippy ex vaccinatied when her child was really young. He got sick and she won’t do it anymore. I told her it was stupid and irresponsible. It’s probably part of the reason we split up. Well, one factor. The kid would run around and make weird noises. I hope for the best with them but that child was strange. I always liked him but I questioned her parenting. She didn’t like that.
It's true that there's a big problem with studies being done finding one thing, and then nobody wanting to fund a second study to prove or disprove it. They basically say that there would be no positive attention given to a study that's already been done, and it's just not worth the money when you can study something different and new. Fortunately, vaccines are not one of those things.
When I was in grad school and doing a rotation, we tried using methods published in a paper by researchers at Penn State for a similar problem and couldn't reliably replicate them, it's not uncommon unfortunately although it doesn't mean the original paper is a bunch of false positives. A tightening NIH pool due to increases in grant applications means you aren't going to spend a ton of time trying to replicate methods in the hopes of proving (or disproving) someone else's hypothesis.
https://arstechnica.com/science/201...500-in-antivax-hotspot-amid-measles-outbreak/ Vaccinations jump 500% in antivax hotspot amid measles outbreak Spoiler “I would rather it not take an outbreak for this to happen.” BETH MOLE - 2/7/2019, 10:45 AM Enlarge / Administration of a measles, mumps, rubella vaccine. Getty | MediaNews Group/Orange County 176WITH 96 POSTERS PARTICIPATING SHARE ON FACEBOOK SHARE ON TWITTER Demand for measles vaccines leapt 500 percent last month in Clark County, Washington—a hotbed for anti-vaccine sentiment that has now become the epicenter of a ferocious measles outbreak. As of February 6, the county—which sits just north of the border from Portland, Oregon—has tallied 50 confirmed cases and 11 suspected cases of measles since January 1. The case count is rising swiftly, with figures more than doubling in just the last two weeks. On January 18, the county declared a public health emergency due to the outbreak. Health officials have long feared an outbreak in the area, given the rampant skepticism of vaccines driven by misinformation and fear-mongering by anti-vaccine advocates. Only 76.5 percent of kindergarteners in Clark County had all the standard immunizations during the 2017-2018 school year. Overall, the county’s population is below the 92-percent to 94-percent range some experts consider necessary to curb the spread of disease. But, that might be about to change. As the threat of measles has become all too real in Clark County, residents are lining up for vaccines, according to data first reported by Kaiser Health News. Orders of measles vaccines in the county reached 3,150 in January. That is nearly a 500-percent jump in orders from January last year, when the total was just 530. Statewide vaccine figures also reflect a boost. Orders for measles vaccine climbed 30 percent in Washington overall, from 12,140 doses in January last year to 15,780 doses in January of this year. Though health officials are glad to see the surge in life-saving immunizations, the motivation is less encouraging. “I would rather it not take an outbreak for this to happen,” Alan Melnick, the Clark County health officer overseeing the response, told KHN. Still, the response is unsurprising, according to Virginia Ramos, infection control nurse with Sea Mar Community Health Center, which runs six sites that offer vaccines in Clark County. “During an outbreak is when you see an influx of patients who would otherwise be vaccine-hesitant,” she said. The Clark County health department has stressed the dangers of measles, which is an extremely contagious, air-borne viral disease. The health department notes on its website that: The virus travels through the air and can stay up to two hours in the air of a room where a person with measles has been. If other people breathe the contaminated air or touch a contaminated surface, then touch their eyes, noses or mouths, they can become infected. Measles is so contagious that if one person has it, 90 percent of the people close to that person who are not immune will also become infected. Measles usually starts with a high fever, cough, and runny nose, as well as red, watery eyes, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It progresses to the telltale measles rash three to five days later, which breaks out all over the body and can be accompanied by fever spikes above 104 degrees Fahrenheit. Common complications include diarrhea and ear infections that can cause permanent hearing loss in children. Severe complications include pneumonia, which can be fatal, and encephalitis (swelling of the brain), which can lead to convulsions, hearing loss, and intellectual disabilities in children. Measles can also cause pregnant women to give birth prematurely or deliver a low-birth-weight baby. The outbreak in Washington state is one of three ongoing in the US, with the other two in New York City and New York state. Cases have also been documented in California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, New Jersey, Oregon, and Texas since the start of the year.
Not really vaccination related but my wife's friends are all into the essential oils cult/craze currently going on - basically believing it can cure anything from insomnia to stage 4 cancer and modern medicine pales in comparison Anyways, a couple of these same women are going to Disneyworld soon and don't want their kids to get sick - Thus, their brilliant plan is to have the kids go on antibiotics a week before the trip to ensure the kids safety. I can't even comprehend this level of idiocy / ironic contradiction.
Yikes. There is some data supporting intranasal anti-flu drugs as prophylactic... but it’s expensive.
Fucking yikes. I think scientific literacy might be one of the biggest problems mankind faces (maybe the biggest?).
Anybody who says on FB “do your own research” in regards to medical or scientific fields has a 99% chance of being incapable of doing actual research in said fields. This is a fact, research it.
In regards to the whole “why are autism and learning/development issues” on the rise, aside from just improved testing, I’d argue screen time is the biggest issue. My wife is a school counselor and she’s told me that the difference in kids now vs even 6-7 years ago is astounding. Diets and cultural habbits haven’t changed much in that time frame, but screentime is up exponentially among children. “Virtual Autism” seems to be a real thing. There are recent studies out there where kids that are tested to be on the lower end of the spectrum see doctors, the parents are advised to cut out all screen time, make them play outside, interact with other people, etc., and within a couple weeks or months they test completely normal. At the very least, significant amounts of screen time have already been proven to exacerbate any learning issues that may already be present.
The same people that don’t vaccinate their children because they “did their research”, are the ones that you see shove an iPad in their toddler’s high chair so they can sit at Applebee’s uninterrupted for 2hrs on $1 LIIT night.
I think a very big factor in rise of autism is a greater emphasis on the pattern and symptoms of the condition and more appropriate/aggressive diagnosing. It’s like saying more people die of cancer now compared to the 1800s. Maybe they are, but maybe people just died of what was then natural causes but they an undiagnosed cancer.
The shame about this is that if someone with measles walked into that crowd most of those people would be fine because their parents likely vaccinated them, but their kids would 90% get sick and possibly die, but yeah parents rights.
Go get your kid his shots because you’re not smarter than science. Could have saved you a bunch of time.
let's just say that vaccines caused autism in like 1% of cases, the concept of "i'd rather my child get polio or die from measles than get autism" is something
After researching, Lindenberger tried to confront his mother, approaching her with an article from the CDC about how vaccines don't cause autism. "Her response was simply 'that's what they want you to think,' " he said. "I was just blown away that you know, the largest health organization in the entire world would be written off with a kind of conspiracy theory-like statement like that." Good for this kid.
I get so fucking mad every time I read thus thread that I have to avoid it for a week or two. Stupid fucks.