I'm just going to make this the new vaccination thread

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  1. RonBurgundy

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    Also fuck “Doctor” Rand Paul.

     
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  2. Emma

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    Fuck Rand Paul
     
  3. Emma

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    And fuck Wisconsin
     
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    Wisconsin man charged with breaking measles quarantine to go to gym
    It's unclear if the man had measles or was under quarantine because he had been exposed and had no proof of immunity.



    March 5, 2019, 2:47 PM CST
    By David K. Li

    A Wisconsin man has been criminally charged with breaking a measles quarantine by leaving his home to go to the gym, according to court documents.

    Jeffery Murawski, 57, of Brookfield, was charged Feb. 22 with a misdemeanor count of willfully violating the recommendations of a local health officer or subjecting others to danger of contracting a communicable disease.



    His wife, Christine Bennett, 58, was charged with the same misdemeanor for allegedly aiding him in taking actions that could have exposed people in a public place to a communicable disease.

    The charges stem from an incident on May 1, 2018, when Murawski was under quarantine in his home "until deemed non-contagious" by Waukesha County health officials or until May 7, 2018, a county court complaint states.

    Murawski allegedly escaped his home by hiding inside a car driven by his wife. He went to a gym, although he later told police he stayed only a few minutes because "he felt very guilty and sick to his stomach" for deciding to go out.

    He was spotted by an off-duty sheriff's deputy who knew of the quarantine order on Murawski and saw him with a gym bag walking down a street to a parking lot where got in a car driven by his wife, the court complaint said.


    A short time later, an on-duty deputy pulled over a car carrying Murawski and Bennett. The deputy asked Murawski, "Aren't you supposed to be at home?" Murawski "put his head down and stated yes and began apologizing profusely," according to the complaint.
     
  5. Emma

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    Wonder if he still needed someone to give him a spot?
     
  6. bro

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  7. The Banks

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    Imagine dunking on your mom in the national spotlight. Good on that kid for calling her out on her bullshit, hopefully she'll see the light.
     
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  8. Jigga

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    Spoiler - she won’t
     
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  9. Baseballman86

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    Without knowing anything about her, I’m certain somebody could stack her comments on abortion next to her comments on vaccines and they would be hilariously contradictory.
     
  10. Shawn Hunter

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    She'll just dig in harder now.
     
  11. Detlef Schrempf

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    She was quoted by the AP after saying she didn’t agree with any of his testimony and he was essentially a pawn of the pharmaceutical companies.
     
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  12. bro

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    it is all a conspiracy man!!!
     
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  14. Detlef Schrempf

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    CNN front page is all about the anti vax threat right now, good to see.
     
  15. Detlef Schrempf

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    From WaPo:

    For more than 30 years in Oregon, cases of tetanus in children were almost mythical — studied in textbooks but never seen in person — thanks to the effectiveness of pediatric vaccination programs.

    That streak ended in 2017 when an unvaccinated 6-year-old boy arrived at a hospital in the state, experiencing jaw spasms and struggling to breathe, according to a new case study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The child was playing on a farm when he cut his head on something, the report said. His parents cleaned and stitched the wound at home, but alarming symptoms emerged six days later. The boy’s jaw began clenching, and his neck and back were arched — a trademark indication of tetanus called opisthotonus that is caused by involuntary muscle spasms.

    He was airlifted to a pediatric hospital, where he was diagnosed with tetanus. It was the first instance of the life-threatening neuromuscular disease in a child in Oregon in more than three decades.......

    In all, the boy’s medical charges in the hospital amounted to $811,929 — which did not include the cost of being airlifted to the hospital or of inpatient rehabilitation, according to the CDC. It’s unclear from the report who covered his hospital expenses. It took about a month after his rehab for the boy to return to “normal activities” such as running and bicycling, the report added.


    “The patient was in the intensive care unit, in critical condition, for over six weeks,” Guzman-Cottrill said. “The complex and prolonged care led to the high treatment cost. In contrast, the cost of one DTaP dose is somewhere around $24-$30 a dose, and this illness could have been prevented with five doses of DTaP vaccine.”

    Notably, physicians counseled the boy’s family to bring the child up to date on all of his vaccinations, as well as receive a follow-up dose of the DTaP vaccine.

    His family said no.

    “Despite extensive review of the risks and benefits of tetanus vaccination by physicians, the family declined the second dose of DTaP and any other recommended immunizations,” the CDC report stated.
     
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  16. Detlef Schrempf

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    Those parents should go to prison for being shit bags.
     
  17. Baseballman86

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    I really hate that kids are the ones being affected by their retarded parents, but it’s always ironic to me that when it comes to vaccines, doctors are crooked and “in bed with big pharma” just to make money, yet when somebody’s sick you’re cool with the same doctor cutting them open and performing surgery or giving IVs and whatever other medicine is needed. I guess the conspiracy only goes so far
     
  18. MORBO!

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    After all that and they still were too fucking stupid to immunize their child. Can someone please go kick that father in the nuts repeatedly to make sure his line ends?
     
  19. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Surgery and IV’s aren’t government mandated mind control drugs. Duh.
     
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  20. MORBO!

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    Yea, I mean...I would say that $800k+ in treatment is a little more lucrative for physicians and hospitals and drug makers than just spending $100 on vaccines.
     
  21. Detlef Schrempf

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    That’s the thing I don’t understand. The first person they call when there’s a medical emergency is a fucking doctor, not their friend Sara on Facebook who is super informed on the topic of medical science and it’s effect on children’s health because she read a couple of blogs while she was pregnant. They called a fucking doctor, who then proceeded to save their child’s life, whom they told to go fuck himself with his advice when given at the end, fuck them.
     
  22. Detlef Schrempf

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    If I was an insurance company I would write into my policies that if you contract a disease that could be prevented by vaccination and you chose not to vaccinate that coverage will not extend to you in the event that you contract said disease.
     
  23. Bo Pelinis

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    Those parents should be charged with child neglect or endangerment. I am 100% serious. If a parent wants to be a freak and not vaccinate their children, fine, I guess. But you should be liable for any preventable illness or death that happens to your child or a child that your child infects. And you can't send your kids to public school.

    Pelinis 2020
     
  24. Detlef Schrempf

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    I think not vaccinating children is 100% child abuse. It’s the fucking worst. My wife just had a couple of kids at her school get whooping cough (they were actually vaccinated and got it while traveling), but they had to send letters home, etc.

    This was also personally terrifying for me as I had a negative reaction to the tdap vaccine as an infant and my brain swelled and I had to get a spinal tap, etc., but I would never consider not getting my child vaccinated because shit like that is a 1 in a million thing to happen.
     
  25. Killy Me Please

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    Ive been saying this shit for years!

    BRB going to drive my Tahoe down the sidewalk in Manhattan. Suck my collective cock, you commies!
     
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  26. Baseballman86

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    That’s exactly what a sheep would say!
     
  27. MORBO!

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    They are.
     
  28. Can I Spliff it

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    Fucking typhus lmao how are we even a superpower
     
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    We still deal with plague in rare cases in the midwest, these are diseases where there's no effective vaccine so you do see them pop up from time to time.
     
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    BRING BACK SCURVY!!
     
  31. Scott Van Pelt

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    Scurvy is a vitamin c deficiency, not a communicable illness prevented by vaccine

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    Thanks, Debbie Downer, for ruining the joke
     
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    - Ron Howard voice over
     
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    I've just always wanted to use that emoticon

    Apologies
     
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  36. Randy Dangus

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    I’m sure the kid will be fine, this’ll toughen em up.
     
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    Wow. Even have the left handed bass.
     
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  38. Mix

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    So I have a total dumb fuck facebook friend that believes in every conspiracy (except no way Trump got help from Russia) and is anti-vax and all that fun stuff. He made a poll about would you rather your kids have measles or autism and then this happened to the girl who said autism.

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    Of course that twat's name is Todd
     
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  41. Detlef Schrempf

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    Well guys, I did it, I nearly ruined my Sunday night arguing with someone I went to college about what a dumb fuck they are for being an anti vaccine proponent. Backstory: friend of mine posts the CNN article about the unvaccinated adult that got measles because he wasn’t vaccinated. Most people agree anti vaxxers are stupid. Then comes the stupid person posting an LA Times image stating vaccines are only 70% effective 3-5 years after vaccination. It would take too many screen shots so I’m just posting the text. Spoilering for size.

    Stupid Person:
    posts image from LA times about vaccines being less effective 3-5 years after vaccination.

    Some other smart guy:
    Stupid Person how much protection do people who didn't get their vaccination have?

    Stupid Person:
    Some other smart guy, my point is very clearly that y'all act like vaccines are a sure thing with lifelong immunity and anyone who doesn't want one is going to single handedly end the human race. Meanwhile 99.9% of you aren't up to date on your own vaccines or had your titers tested maybe ever. Be fact based, that's all I ask.

    Me:
    Stupid Person are you aware how herd immunity works. It’s an actual thing. A scientifically validated thing.

    Stupid Person:
    Tags Me, yes it is. Based on NATURAL, life long immunity.

    Interlude: I’ve now decided to try and take an educated fact based approach as to why this is bull shit, takes deep breath, and dive in.

    Me:
    Stupid Person this is a pretty telling graphic, vaccines work, and the only reason we’ve had upticks in the last ten years re primarily in communities where herd immunity has dipped below the 95% threshold universally recognized as the magic number for herd immunity to maintain its effectiveness.

    (I posted a chart that shows since vaccines are introduced measles cases in the US have gone from north of 800,000 people a year to significantly less than 200-500 people)

    Stupid Person:
    Perfect example of how an incomplete picture warps the data.

    (Posts chart showing he decrease in mortality tests of measles in the US)

    Interlude II: at this point I’m thinking great, I can now educate her that this is due to vaccines. Vaccines have helped reduce mortality, and I’ll even provide valid scientific evidence that she can’t possibly ignore! Alright things are going to be ok!

    Internal Ron Howard narration: they werent.


    Me:
    You realize the entire medical community acknowledges that vaccines are the cause of the reduction in the mortality rate. So I guess what those of us who have vaccinated are saying is, “you’re welcome.”

    Me:
    Here’s a great study of one million children discussing the impact of vaccinations on the reduction in childhood mortality between infancy and age 5. Spoiler alert: again it’s a big difference.

    This is from the journal of epidemiology, who is literally the expert opinion on matters like this.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4757942/

    Stupid Person:
    Tags me honestly, this is too complex an issue to discuss on Facebook. As I said before I don't expect or intend to change any minds. I was only hoping to get my friend Becca to think a little more open mindedly to my position. It took me YEARS of reading and researching, and vaccinating my children, to come to the decision I did. It wasn't made lightly. I'd hope that Christians would be charitable to others when discussing issues that not only have a physical impact but a moral one as well. You do you what believe is best for your family and I'll do the same.

    Me:
    That study is black and white. Non vaccinated children are .73 times more likely than vaccinated children to die before the age of five. Period. End of story.

    Years of reading content online and choosing to ignore peer reviewed scientific research is sticking your head in the sand. If you want to discuss being charitable, I hope that your children never get measles, tetanus, whooping cough, or rubella, but leading others to the false conclusions that vaccines aren’t the best way to protect your child’s health isn’t just misinformation, it’s dangerous and the definition of uncharitable.

    Stupid Person:
    Tags me I'm so sorry. It must be a very scary and helpless feeling to not feel confident in either the vaccines you took nor the immune system God gave you. To feel that you have to control what perfect strangers do with their bodies also, in order to be safe. Yikes. My heart goes out to you.

    Interlude three: Okay, you can go fuck yourself with your fake pity, let’s go scorched earth.

    Me:
    The growing willful ignorance about vaccines has the ability to impact other people’s health. Your choice and misinformation has the ability to negatively impact the health of others, that’s the definition of selfish.

    I feel confident as do literally all physicians that vaccines work, and I’m thankful that we have physicians and medications like vaccines that work.

    I’m just curious, if God forbid, you found out tomorrow that you had cancer or a similarly significant and life threatening disease would you refuse medication and still feel sorry for my lack of confidence in my immune system, or would you listen to your physicians and take treatment? Because those same physicians you would likely trust in a life threatening situation universally recommend vaccinations and their importance.

    So it’s fine to play the false bravado card, but the fact remains that worst case scenario people with yo to date vaccines are at worst 70% less likely to catch an avoidable disease, I’m not great at math but I’d rather have a 70% protected child than a 0% protected child.

    So I’m sorry, I’m sorry you think you’re helping other people make healthy choices, I’m sorry that you’re making choices that negatively impact the rest of the worlds health, and I’m sorry that those who are statistically more likely to feel the impact of your misinformation are children.

    [\spoiler]
     
  42. Bishop

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    I hate the Oh I got beat by science so now I will just say "it's in Gods hands" people. Just a cop-out!
     
  43. Detlef Schrempf

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    That response was what sent me over the edge, it was infuriating, vaccination has literally nothing to do with religion.
     
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    Ask her how she feels about abortion. Let's get this fire raging.
     
  45. Bishop

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    One of the AntiVaxers that I know bugs the shit out of me bc she goes to the Doctor for everything. The amount of elective surgeries confuses me. She has taken tons of fertility drugs trying to get Pregnant. They have 1 child and have even taken that child to the emergency room bc the kid didn't want to pee in the morning (She peed at the ER). But she didn't Vaccinate the kid bc its dangerous.
     
  46. Detlef Schrempf

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    I hope she continues to be infertile.
     
  47. Bishop

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    It's in God's Hands.