I'm just going to make this the new vaccination thread

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  1. VaxRule

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    Mandatory Vaccine Bill Passes In California Senate

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    A bill that would make vaccines mandatory for nearly every child in California passed the state Senate on Thursday morning.

    The controversial bill ensures that parents enrolling their children in California schools will be allowed to opt them out of immunizations only for medical reasons and may no longer cite religious or personal belief exemptions as reasons not to vaccinate. It passed 25-10 in the Senate, The Associated Press reported.

    The bill is a response to a significant measles outbreak that started at Disneyland in Anaheim, California, and resulted in at least 131 cases
    "Vaccines are necessary to protect us, but that protection has been eroding,” Sen. Richard Pan (D), who co-authored the bill with Sen. Ben Allen (D), said in his final remarks before the vote, according to The Sacramento Bee. “We need to do more to protect our communities.”

    The bill now advances to the state Assembly and, if passed by that chamber, to Democrat Gov. Jerry Brown's desk for final approval. While the governor has not taken a stance on whether vaccines should be mandatory, a spokesman told the Los Angeles Times that Brown "believes that vaccinations are profoundly important and a major public health benefit, and any bill that reaches his desk will be closely considered."

    If the measure becomes law, California will join Mississippi and West Virginia as the only states with such strict vaccine requirements. Bills aimed at limiting non-medical exemptions to vaccines failed in Washington state and Oregon in March.

    Since the bill was introduced, the state's vocal anti-vaccination community has staged protests outside lawmakers' offices throughout the state. Pan's office has received so many phone calls that it had to open a second phone line, ABC 7 reported.
     
  2. Baseballman86

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    Because toxins, gotta cleanse and shit
     
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  4. VaxRule

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    Oh good lord.
     
  5. OHW

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    If I had better 'shopping skills I'd make this an obnoxious housewife and change the title to The Toxin Avenger.

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  6. Tiffin

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    Oh my god I watched this movie last summer. So bad.
     
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  7. Bo Pelinis

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    Even better. She Googles it! Without science training or background, she googles it and expects to understand the intricacies that years of study and/or research in immunology, virology, and general medicine and science may provide...and in 30 minutes. I suspect Googling it is one of the biggest reasons the anti-vax movement has grown so. Fuck you Google, you retard enablers.
     
  8. DistantFactor

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    I wish I had never read this link. My whole morning is now ruined. My favorite quote:

    "I also found this post by a priest who also has a science background and who encourages vaccination “because vaccinations are critical to preventing very serious, life-threatening diseases, and to safeguarding large segments of the population from cataclysmic disease outbreaks and epidemics.” It blows my mind that even those in the priesthood believe that God got this whole immunity thing messed up when he created us and that vaccines are the only thing that will protect us."

    :blowup:
     
  9. DistantFactor

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    Guys the comments are almost worse than the article.

    I didn't think that was possible, and several commenting claim to be doctors or immunologists.
     
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  10. Baseballman86

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    I truly don't understand how/why people think they can "do their own research" on micro and cellular biology. That's like saying "I did my own research on aerodynamics and I just don't think that 747 has enough lift,so I've decided not to fly". 99% of the people in the world don't have the intellectual capacity to understand the stuff, much less "do research". They also think that reading blogs on natural news and from sites with "free"and "revolution" in the title counts as research. That's about as useful as watching Fox News and considering it researching racial inequality
     
  11. Jax Teller

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    I'm trying to keep the hope alive that those aren't really doctors or immunologists.
     
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  12. dome foam

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    my brother is refusing to vaccinate his newborn son (also, his wife refuses to get the TDAP update and it is unclear if she what other vaccinations she has or doesn't have). i have a 1 year old son (who mind you is immunocompromised). i told my brother "i'll see you in about 10 years." family dynamic just got much more interesting.
     
  13. Fran Tarkenton

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    would not know how to handle that situation

    other than disown your brother and your nephew
     
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  14. Biff Bridges

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    Stay strong. For real.
     
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  15. Jax Teller

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    Not even sure I'd take your kid around them at 10. I'd just flat out tell them, my son will never be around your family unless they get vaccinated.
     
  16. Killy Me Please

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    Guys. Whatever you do just please think of the children and don't politicize this thread. NYGator will post for days
     
  17. Killy Me Please

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    amen!

     
  18. jhooked

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    The Orangebloods thread was awesome
     
  19. jhooked

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  20. Can I Spliff it

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    yeah but the bioresonance in the item specs

    Honestly I'm just browsing http://theworstthingsforsale.com/page/3/ , where I suspect many of those are listed.

    "Doin' Thangs"
     
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  21. Biff Bridges

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  22. Truman

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    I know some of these words
     
  23. Barves2125

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    "Floral Printed Synthetic Spongy Mat for Yoga Cum Meditation"

    Uhhh...what is that?
     
  24. ~ taylor ~

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    Somebody not very aware:

    cum
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    1. combined with; also used as (used to describe things with a dual nature or function).
      "a study-cum-bedroom"
     
  25. Merica

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    http://edgytruth.com/2015/05/28/scientists-studying-ecstacy-for-social-anxiety-in-autism/#

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    :facepalm: 138,000 people like this bullshit page.

    https://www.facebook.com/vaccineinfo?fref=nf
     
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  26. Sir Phobos

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    I wouldn't get passive-aggressive about it but even if they tried to get me to come without my kids and without his kids, I would just find an excuse related to my kid to give them.

    On second thought, I would probably get super passive-aggressive about it. What an asshole.
     
  27. Jax Teller

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  28. Can I Spliff it

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  29. DUCKMOUTH

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    Well no shit you should have listened to doctors over spanish soccer moms


    "The boy had not been vaccinated against the disease, which his parents now attribute to being “tricked” by anti-vaccination groups."



    Spanish Boy Dies Of Diptheria Thanks To Anti-Vaxxers
    June 29, 2015 | by Stephen Luntz

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    Photo credit: Thanks to the anti-vaxx movement, we're now back to the vulnerability to diphtheria before the mass vaccination campaigns such as this one in 1941. Ministry of Information via Wikimedia Commons.
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    The boy with the first case of diphtheria in Spain for 28 years has died, Catalan regional health authorities have told The Spain Report. The boy had not been vaccinated against the disease, which his parents now attribute to being “tricked” by anti-vaccination groups.

    And the bad news doesn't stop there. Already eight other Spanish children have been found to be carrying the Corynebacterium diptheriae bacteria that causes diphtheria. Fortunately, all these children had been vaccinated, and consequently have not developed the disease, but the danger of other unvaccinated children becoming exposed remains high.

    As in most developed countries, Spain wiped diphtheria more than two decades ago with vaccination rates over 95%. The disease persists in Russia, India and Africa, where it was responsible for 3,300 deaths in 2013.

    The six year old boy was admitted to Vall d'Hebron hospital on the 3rd of June. As a result of the long period since there had been any cases of the disease, Spain had no stocks of the diptheria antitoxin and had to get some delivered from Russia. It is not known whether or not faster availability of the antitoxin would have saved the boy's life, now if the carrier who infected the boy has been identified.

    While highly effective in children, the immunity conferred by the diphtheria vaccine wears off with age, and adults who have not had a booster shot are often vulnerable to the disease. Diphtheria is often less fatal in adults than children but it can kill at any age.

    Prior to the introduction of vaccines, diphtheria was widespread in Spain with multiple epidemics over a period of centuries. The disease was so common and the symptoms so severe, that 1613 was known as “The Year of Strangulations”.

    Besides lying about the risks of vaccination, the anti-vaccine movement has routinely diminished the seriousness of the diseases reduced or eliminated by injections. The symptoms of diphtheria - including heart and kidney damage and lymph glands so swollen they can prevent breathing and death rates above 10% - are so severe that the approach hadn't been taken in this case. Instead the effectiveness of the vaccines are questioned, and rare reactions to the injection hyped or simply invented.

    However, as the World Health Organization makes clear, “diphtheroid toxoid is one of the safest vaccines available” and it is the high global rate of immunization that has led to the dramatic declines in deaths from this disease. If the anti-vaccination movement has its way, there will be many more cases occurring in places where the disease has not been seen for decades.
     
  30. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Fuck, thought he was over that shit when he broke up with Jenny McShitfuck. This issue and people linking GMOs to cancer really stupefies me, how do so many people, who are educated, not understand the scientific process and reproducible results are?
     
  31. Bo Pelinis

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  32. Nole0515

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    Damnit, I keep reading this title as the vacation thread
     
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  33. Baseballman86

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    It doesn't quite piss me off as much as anti-vax stance, but the "All GMOs are evil" stance is close behind. The earth quite literally needs GMO forms of many crops to provide food for people and keep those crops from dying off. People are free to eat as organic and natural as they like, and certainly,some stuff is bad. However, lumping all that crap together and spouting nonsense and trying to get all GMOs banned blah blah blah is ridiculous, stupid and dangerous.
     
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  34. jhooked

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    I tend to agree, though I don't really buy any of the arguments against labeling foods that contain them. The cost factor really can't be all that significant considering it wouldn't require immediately pulling products off of shelves, but rather adding some sort of note that they contain GMO's to the label as they make new ones. Also, I don't see it creating some huge bias that would drive people away from them considering organic/GMO free food is already labeled as such, but typically doesn't sell nearly as much since it costs noticeably more.
     
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  35. Baseballman86

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    Yea I'm on board with labeling. Same with county of origin in most cases. That's much different from the "GMOs are bad cuz the interwebz says so" crowd that wants them abolished entirely though
     
  36. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    I think there's a fear that labeling them is going to cause a big drop in purchases as there are plenty of dipshits who understand very little actual science and will see it as basically some sort of "Contains Hazardous Materials" label. I wouldn't have a problem with it, but where do we draw the line with the label? Virtually every crop grown, whether genetically altered by humans or not, has undergone some sort of genetic change as plants have very different genetic recombinant pathways than animals.
     
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  37. BudKilmer

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    Currently in a twitter debate with Christian hip hop artist @propaganda over vaccines. Want to kill myself
     
  38. skeezy

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  40. Biff Bridges

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    Your post makes me want to kill myself. Twitter debate, Christian hip hop, and anti-vax? The holy trinity of go fuck yourself.*

    *not you, those subjects
     
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  41. bro

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    i'd rather people be informed than not informing them because some people are idiots
     
  42. Tobias

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    i am gonna follow you soon, coach
     
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  43. bro

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    we just need less people on this goddamn planet
     
  44. BudKilmer

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    Feel free, Go Heels :yousoright:
     
  45. VaxRule

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    You can ignore any articles from Deisher - she's a quack. You can tell this is true because when you type Theresa Deisher into google, it offers up "Theresa Deisher quack" as a search option.
     
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  47. skeezy

    skeezy what is this? meowschwitz?
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    I just want to know what a professional researcher is