India and Pakistan boutta brawl....the world's first nuclear war?

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    Still haven’t heard the secret plan to fight inflation.
     
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    excessive inflation really isnt an issue right now
     
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    Fucking hell
     
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    Well let us hope this doesn't escalate.
     
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  11. Walt Disney

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    Explain like I’m 5 what could happen if they went to war

    Are there certain sides countries would take
     
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    Yes
     
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    USA trying to be allies with both.
     
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    Nuclear war. It would literally be the highest body count of any war, anywhere, ever.
    Am I being over dramatic? God I hope so.
     
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    That seems bad
     
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    Way bigger than I thought the response to terrorist attacks would be

     
  21. Arrec Bardwin

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    So India bombed the terrorists and Pakistan is all

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  22. Walt Disney

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    Apparently those camps were empty*
     
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  23. shaolin5

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    Exactly
     
  24. shaolin5

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    This guy USUALLY knows what he's talking about (fingers crossed)

     
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  28. Arrec Bardwin

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    Uhhhh, Iraq had WMDs in case you forgot.
     
  29. shaolin5

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    Interesting background on Balakot, basically a center of terrorism in the region, even carrying out strikes in Afghanistan against the US

     
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    OK not the first

     
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    Can I get an AMEN?

     
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  32. AptosDuck

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    That's not correct

    USSR - China 1969

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    1969 was cool because the Sovs actually came to us through back channels and asked how we would respond if they hit the Chinese with nuclear weapons
     
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    I wonder what our reply was?
     
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    Over dramatic. We will never see two states have a nuclear war. Nothing to gain. Everything to lose.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  37. Joe_Pesci

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  38. AptosDuck

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    Existential deterrence works pretty well, actually
     
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  39. Joe_Pesci

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    so far
     
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  40. AptosDuck

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    Neither side has an interest in things getting out of control. Neither side has anywhere near a first strike capability. If either side had what they thought was a disarming strike capability, I'd be more concerned.
     
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  41. Joe_Pesci

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    Sure, but "we will never see two states have a nuclear war" sounds a lot like what the smart people were saying before the first world war... and then the worst war imaginable happened
     
  42. AptosDuck

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    What would you prefer to hear? The weapons exist. It's old technology by now. We try to amass a literature that discusses what are stabilizing and protective weapons and what are destabilizing and offensive weapons, force structures and postures and whatnot, that make their use much less likely. That's about all we can do. You can forget about getting rid of them. They're not going anywhere, and you wouldn't want a world without nuclear weapons because the temptation to achieve a unilateral breakout would be too tempting.
     
  43. Joe_Pesci

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    Maybe something a little less confident about a paradigm where countries sit ready to launch at a moments notice but don't because of assumptions about fear and rationality, not even getting into the chances of an accident.
     
  44. AptosDuck

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    As I said in my appended post, states take steps to ensure the survivability of their arsenals. Mature states shape their force posture to be more defensive than offensive, and thus be more stabilizing. They also strengthen command, control, and communications to ensure both positive and negative control of their arsenals.

    Again, I'm not really sure what you want to hear, given the reality of the situation (both locally and globally).
     
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  46. shaolin5

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    I don't think we are dealing with "mature states" here

     
  47. Bill the Butcher

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    One thing they didnt drop was toilet paper and deodorant. Nuke those dirty street shitters.
     
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    How much rage do you wake up with each morning?
     
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  49. Bill the Butcher

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    For Pakistan? Since I fought an enemy they harbored and supported? A lot.
     
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