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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by shaolin5, Feb 16, 2019.
Hello, following multiple stories.
Pretty good time line in this article:
Any idea on casualty numbers so far? Didn’t see anything on google
it's almost like being able to post in multiple threads on a message board
That isn’t close to what I was saying
Thread is slowing down because Cohen hearing.
EVERYONE STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO COHEN HEARING. ITS PATHETIC. WE SHOULD ALL STOP LEARNING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HEARING!
Probably felt bad for him because he was flying a plane design (MIG-21) that first flew in 1956, when he got shot down.
Back in 1990 I was at a dinner in Krasnodar with a retired Sov Air Force officer who had been one of the MiG21's test pilots when they'd first built it. He gave me the epaulets off of his old uniform as a gesture of good will
I mean, we still fly B52, U2, C130, KC/RC135, and T38, all from the 50s
And a bunch of countries still fly F4 and F5 fighters
That’s incredibly cool
Hell they have videos posted this week of the F117 Steath Bomber flying and apparently it was "retired" ten years ago.
The Mississippi air national guard still uses biplanes
We don’t fly any of those in scenarios in which they may see air to air combat
your life fascinates me
Some of our soldiers are still equipped with bayonets which were invented in the 1700’s.
That's more an issue of not going anything close to peer-to-peer since 1991. If shit kicked off with Russia or China or Iran tomorrow, sure as shit we'd use them because we don't have anything else in large numbers. We have 75 B52s, 62 B1s, and 20 B2s. If we have to go against Flankers or Fulcrums, in conjunction with modern AA, we're going to lose a shitload of birds
What the fuck are we spending all this money on if we can’t establish air supremacy over those three in relatively short order
IS THE F35 WORKING YET
*looks at receipt*
It’s actually the one use of the F22
We likely EVENTUALLY would but the casualties would be much higher than people expect. We're definitely way ahead of anyone else in terms of force projection but airspace and sea space denial is probably a lot closer.
Sorry, got the thread off topic
The dinner was nearly 30 years ago so I don't remember much, but I do recall him talking about testing altitude limits to the new plane, and they didn't have very good pressurized suits. Sounded like a pretty hairy job
Wouldn't the f-35 be able to take out the Russian s-400's before they go back in to hiding?
We'd likely go layer by layer in conjunction with F-22s for any air to air assistance. Basically, we'd work our way inwards.
The counter would be Russia not using all of their s-400's, making the US think we have cleared an area when it isn't the case.
China scares me more than Russia when it comes to anti access. HunterPKP
That is the idea of the 35. The idea is it can sneak in close while sharing data from multiple long range radar and sensors which allow it to get close to the target undetected before it destroys it. Imagine a plane able to close within striking distance, while having a full understanding of the theater of combat while running dark with no radar but receiving the feed from an AWAC or AEGIS which is hundreds of miles away. Its able to deploy weapons in a short period of time without going active. Its simply the carrier for the warhead until it needs to be released. That is the idea of the F35. Its a decent idea in principal.
Nothing can take down the F22 that I have heard about. Its simply outmatching everything it goes up against. The problem is that won't always be the case.
The thing with the s-400 is that it's mobile. Can move at an instant and be ready again in 5-10 minutes iirc.
We just ordered 75 more f16s. We really need to get this mass production of f35s going and restart the f22 program.
Don't forget about the new F15s we are considering ordering as well. Apparently they are rethinking the F22 program cancellation.
Plus a lot of our Intel stuff won't work well in p2p environments; MQ9s would be easy targets, same with the RJs, so finding them again would be harder.
Comms and satellites would be vulnerable too if anyone decides to put a shrapnel bomb in low earth orbit
People laugh about the new space force, but we have to be able to protect our satellites. China will hhave a working missle that can hit a low orbit object in a few years. Russia already has one.
If it wasn’t coming from Trump people would take it more seriously but they should regardless, why shouldn’t we be protecting Earth and pushing the boundaries of the solar system as it’s leading nation
Also it’s about time humans get back into the colonizing game anyways, but this time with less genocide
I don’t think the military is the right way to go for network protection though; as much as I HATE dealing with contractors, you’re going to need to pay thru the nose to get top notch programmers that can get clearances.
bring back the f14
Tragically, we destroyed all our F14s and all the spare parts when we retired them so Iran couldn’t buy spares on the black market.
Anti ballistic missile systems.
I love this. Shuttering the 22 was so stupid.
I’d be shocked if they restarted the 22. Never underestimate the DoDs ability to put national security at risk to avoid admitting they were wrong. See: trying to retire the A-10 and the entire LCS program
Here's a good graphic on the S400 versus American planes. One takeaway, versus our F35 or F22? It is dead. Fact. It's radar is not better than our PAT III and the PAT III cannot lock on to the F22 right now. The cross section of a normal SU fighter is roughly equivalent to a compact car when it's hardpoints have armament on them. A F22 is roughly the size of a small bird that blinks on the radar when the weapons bay is closed. Plus, our PAT III loses lock as soon as the weapons bay closes. If we can't lock, the Russian certainly can't. Mobility doesn't matter at all when we fire and forget. It's fucking dead and the Russians know it. The thing couldn't even shoot down our missiles when we struck Syria a while back. The pics online of the approach vectors for S400 interceptor missiles was laughable. BudKilmer
I don't know shit about the military so this page just reads like a really complex game of Bingo
I almost shit myself earlier when I read some of these tweets
That was some wild shit. Pakistani soldier displaying some serious white-girl sass at 1:36