Is Jim Harbaugh the most overrated coach in all of football?

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  1. buckwild

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  2. SpartanGA

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    Well that’s not good
     
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  4. Bruce Wayne

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    Nothing.

    And if even if we do part ways, who could we possibly get that’s better?
     
  5. dblplay1212

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    No
     
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    I’m starting to think Andrew Luck was just really good in spite of Jim harbaugh.
     
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    You'll hire Matt Campbell and he'll do a great job
     
  10. buckwild

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    This is such a dumb and lazy question. Harbaugh has not evolved and he's accomplished zero at Michigan . By saying "who could we possibly get that's better", you are still applying what you thought he was when you hired him. He isn't that.
     
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  11. Vinegar Strokes

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    At least Brady Hoke beat OSU
     
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  12. MG2

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    OSU fans have zero perspective when it comes to this stuff. "Who would be better" is absolutely a legitimate question that needs to be asked if you're the UM AD or a UM fan.
     
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  13. Lip

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    Better than 0-4 against OSU, 0-7 as an underdog, and 1-9 against top 10 opponents? Probably a lot of people. That’s pretty terrible. I know it could be worse, but are you happy settling for mediocrity? If you have the cash, why not try something else because clearly this isn’t working?
     
  14. The Walrus

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    As a fan THE Ohio State University, I hope your AD has the same mindset

    Harbaugh is a bum and you guys deserve better
     
  15. Vinegar Strokes

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  16. Corch

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    Harbaugh stinks, man.

    There are a lot better coaches out there
     
  17. Gunners

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    They really don't
     
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    This is a bad take for you.
     
  19. MG2

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    Based on the last 10 years of reading OSU fans on here, it seems that your fan base's reaction to the question "what was your most miserable time as a CFB fan," would be to say the Cooper years, when you were a top 5-10 team and losing to Michigan most years. You fired him and go into the Tressel years, and when that crashes, you get Urban. You know nothing but amazing CFB teams, and your idea of misery is that Cooper lost to Michigan a lot with great teams and Tressel lost a couple title games. When you look around pretty much everywhere else in CFB, that's not how it works for anyone else. As a Michigan fan, I've experienced misery much worse than losing to OSU and only going 10-3, and asking whether there are legitimate candidates out there with realistic chances of being better than Harbaugh seems like a relevant question.

    Obviously, if this season for UM continues to go in this direction, that question becomes much easier to answer.
     
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  20. Lip

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    I don’t get it. MSU will never spend the money, so yeah, can we do better than Marky D? Probably not.

    But if you’re paying top 3-5 salaries, I don’t understand the idea that you have to settle for middle of the pack disappointments because you can’t do better.
     
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  21. Lip

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    I think you’re forgetting the Bauserman era.
     
  22. Vinegar Strokes

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    I think Harbaugh is perfect fit for UM.
     
  23. MG2

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    When did a coaches' record as an underdog become so important? If Michigan would have won today as an underdog, no one (including Michigan fans) would have cared or thought any differently of him as a coach.
     
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  30. Fast Eddie

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    Can we just all agree harbaugh is a solid coach and not what everyone hoped for? I honestly I think Jim is depressed. Hard to watch
     
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  31. buckwild

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    Obviously you could do worse....we've seen it. But, I also think there's plenty of coaches that could do the same thing Harbaugh has done and just win every game on the schedule that you pencil a W next to in August. UM has shown with Harbaugh that they are willing to spend as much as anyone. There's a pretty damn good chance that they could find someone who can upset a team or win a big game.
     
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    Is he even a solid coach at this point? He has a DC that overwhelms most shitty B1G offenses and shits his pants when any team can stand up to it.
     
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  33. Fast Eddie

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    Did you see the talent at Michigan? Keeping it within 21 against the stud honkeys wearing #38 at wideout for the badgers deserves some credit Gun
     
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  34. MG2

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    This is fair, but UM hasn't spent like this for anyone but Harbaugh, and I'm not completely sold they would do it to that extent for other guys.

    The whole "upset" thing just doesn't mean much to me. He's beaten good (not great) teams. He's beaten MSU twice after MSU was embarrassing RR and Hoke. He's smashed PSU three times in four tries. It's just that no one cares because people only count the losses. Which is fine and it is what it is. Apparently acknowledging any of that means I'm melting down. Harbaugh's been a good, not great, coach for 4 years before this one, and put UM in a spot where it was a good, not great, program. If things don't turn around in a huge way the rest of this season, replacing him is something that should be considered. Looking around the landscape of CFB, though, my point is essentially that it's a lot easier to find someone who will be worse than him than it would be to find someone who is going to do the things he's done + win the big games.
     
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  36. Lip

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    When did a coach’s win/loss record matter anyway? If we would have won all the important games we lost, no one would be calling him a bad coach.
     
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  37. Lip

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    It’s probably going to be hard to compete and win big games, so let’s not even try.

    The leaders and the best, folks.
     
  38. TheGrifter

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    Question:

    If you could trade Harbaugh for Ryan Day right now, would you?
     
  39. Schadenfred

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    To be fair, his kind of thinking would have kept Fulmer around instead of...
     
  40. MG2

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    Probably not, but by the time I'd be willing to reconsider that would mean everyone would be laughing at me for thinking about it in the first place. Day is riding two decades of OSU destroying everyone in the B1G, 7 years of Urban crushing everyone and recruiting at a historically great level, and then 2 years on the staff before taking the job. He would have none of those things at UM, so I don't know how you can even compare it with his limited HC resume.
     
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    Hard to win with the talent level on the wolverine roster even Ryan day would struggle having Ben mason at defensive tackle and Jordan Glasgow at linebacker
     
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  43. IHHH

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    That might be the most untrue statement ever made on the inter web

    The perception is going to change in a hurry if harbaugh wins a few big ones
     
  44. IHHH

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    Beating Wisconsin would’ve put harbaugh right back up there. He is immaculate. Seems like he is so weird that nobody wants to challenge him so they just assume he is smart.
     
  45. IHHH

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    Michigan fans, is it true that he controls all the information coming out of the team. Like your beat reporters can’t get a clip of practice ?
     
  46. buckwild

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    I don't think they get much. BTN does a traveling road show with their studio guys when practice starts before the season every year. They visit every school (even Rutgers)....film practice, interview coaches and players on a stage, etc. It's all extreme fluff as they work for the conference and they aren't out to talk shit about a team before the season starts. I'd imagine they typically get as much access as they want for that day , but they were very butt hurt about their Michigan visit this year. I don't think they got much at all, compare to all of their other stops.
     
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    No they do not.
     
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