is lincoln riley actually a bad coach?

The mistake is thinking teams must be good to beat this version of USC.

 

It is implied in the Xeet that the teams waiting for them in the B1G are going to “pick them apart” not the ones they’re entering with

 

I’d love to wager on where USC finishes in the conference in 2024.

 

USC probably would have finished 3rd or 4th in the B1G West this year.

 

They'd be bottom half this year.

 

USC sucks I’m not arguing that. They would beat anyone in the B1G besides the bucs, wolfs, and maybe Pedos and/or Iowa.

 

Put your money where your Pelinis is

 

How many teams are we going to have next year? 18? Yeah post Caleb Williams with a Lincoln Riley defense will definitely put them bottom half next season.

 

https://fbschedules.com/2024-usc-football-schedule/

9/1 - LSU - Neutral
9/7 - Utah St - Home
9/21 -Michigan - Away
9/28 - Wisconsin - Home
10/5 - Minnesota - Away
10/12 - PSU - Home
10/19 - Maryland - Away
10/26 - Rutgers - Home
11/2 - Washington - Away
11/16 - Nebraska - Home
11/23 - UCLA - Away
11/30 - Notre Dame - Home

Their home/away slate is extremely favorable for Y1 in the B1G. Think the other 3 Pac schools got at least one boning on the schedule for later season cold weather away games and USC didn't really get that. Still, they'll struggle to get bowl eligible next year imo.

 

Will be interesting to see. I see eight wins depending on if fickel can fix things.

 

Hot take: They'll lose to one or both of Maryland and Rutgers next year.

 

Nice to see all the optimism for next season!

 

Those are classic conference rivalry games so it doesn’t count

 

They should try to go into the PSU game with 0 or 1 loss so that Franklin thinks they're a legit contender and shits down his leg.

 

USC is going to look other worldly against the likes of Michigan State and Nebraska and then hopelessly overmatched against every team from Iowa and up

 

Franklin gonna sneak out a win every couple years and get to sacrifice a few more OCs to boot and stay in Happy Valley forever

 

Want to see Iowa vs SoCal in a bowl.

which unit sucks worse. SoCal D or Iowa O

 

Wrong, if major changes don't happen, we will look just as bad against Michigan State and Nebraska.

 

Our defense

 

The Banks dblplay1212

here you guys go

 

Yep

 

Doesn’t pretty much everyone think that though?

 

The Air Raid doesn’t work in big time college football. It somewhat did for a bit - at least enough to pump offensive stats for non-contenders - but everyone has caught up to it.

 

I think it can work if you pay attention to literally any other part of your team. Washington lead the nation in pass attempts last year and for all intents and purposes ran an air raid adjacent system due to their personnel. SC is just so incredibly soft mentally and physically.

 

Lincoln finally got 87 killed

 

1000% this.

Air Raid as a concept is fine, just need something akin to toughness and I haven’t seen it from a single Riley team in Norman or Pasadena.

 

He’s gonna be even slower now

 

Agreed but I’d venture to say that’s the board consensus

 

It’s what happens with every Air Raid program. You can’t emphasize everything, so something needs to take a backseat - and it’s always toughness.

 

USC doesn’t play in Pasadena

 

These kids these days are just soft

 

Still shitty

 

He’s the same but the opposite of Marcus Freeman/Brent Venables

Coordinators cosplaying as head coaches

 

After yesterday, I’m leaning yes.

 

I think he’s a better coach than those two, the Leach coaching tree just is what it is, which is 7 on 7 and skeleton practicing with touch tackling, and a complete abandonment of anything resembling a DL and seemingly not even caring enough to try and fix it.

 

I think he may be slightly better, but most folks don’t realize he was dealt a great hand at OU and his team was worse every year he was there. And the USC results are very much on par with those two.

 

He's a great QB evaluator and coach.
Great play-caller.

That's it.

 

You sure he’s a great play caller after watching Saturday?

 

I think he’s a good bit better than both though still not elite. I’m also not sure his OU team’s got worse every year, they were just your standard OU teams who couldn’t beat anyone with a pulse outside of the Big 12 just like it was under Stoops after winning it all in 2000.

Riley went:

12-2 (8-1), Big 12 title, CFP semi
12-2 (8-1), Big 12 title, CFP semi
12-2 (8-1), Big 12 title, CFP semi
9-2 (7-1), Big 12 title, NY6
11-2 (7-2)

Hard to say they got worse every year. That’s the same Oklahoma team it was for most of the previous two decades.

 

Great QB evaluator? How many of his QBs did he actually recruit out of HS?

 

Caleb is pretty much it. I guess Rattler if you want to include a bust in there.

 

Mayfield - transfer from Texas Tech
Murray - transfer from A&M
Hurts - transfer from Bama
Rattler - HS recruit
Williams - HS recruit
Moss - committed to Helton

 

To his credit, he made Jalen a ton of money. I just don’t think he gives a single fuck about recruiting, which is one of the main reasons he was so vehemently against a move to the SEC with OU.

 

I'm not gonna call him a bad coach, but losing to THAT Michigan team is pretty embarrassing. Losing to any team that isn't a dedicated option team and only threw for like 30 yards against you is really fucking bad and there's no real way to sugarcoat it. You knew coming in they couldn't throw the ball, so I need to hear how you weren't prepared to face that.

 

Well apparently I was wrong. He’s shit at everything! That makes me even happier.
I can’t stand him.

 

Still much less embarrassing than what they did to Penn State last year.

 

Recruiting out of HS is going to be less important going forward.