The Welcome to the Jungle one is especially bad. Like he's using delay in the intro but the delay is an accent and isn't responsible for a majority of the notes you hear
electronic have you ever learned Ozzy "Shot in the Dark?" What a fucked up tuning. (Tune EA up a half step, tune DGBE down a half step)
It's F Bb Db Gb Bb Eb Or E# A# C# F# A# D# Not sure how he'd land on that. Half step down is annoying enough because you need a guitar tuned up for that. But then take two notes from that and twist the other way? This is not worth having in a set haha.
Love that song, have tried to play along to it by ear a few times and have given up each time. That makes a ton of sense. Ha!
I watched this video on it a while back. He explains why it's tuned that way but I can't remember the explanation
Just read that the first two are apparently a full step up (F# and B). Is that right? *nm, was reading a dumbshit on a message board’s post about it.
I'm auditioning for a hard rock cover band. These are the six I'm supposed to be ready to do: Interstate Love Song Welcome to the Jungle Shot in the Dark Panama (Van Halen) Round and Round (Ratt) Gimme Love (Electric Mary)
that song really takes me back, btw. Right after they sobered Ozzy up long enough to cut the follow up to Bark at the Moon
Round and Round and Shot in the Dark have some pretty intricate solos. Those would take me months to get right.
Ikr. I don't know if I'm the guy for this gig but they're pumping me up, saying just give it a shot. Round and Round has harmony lead -- they just want me to do the high harmony. Maybe I can get that part. But yeah, I don't see bootstrapping myself into a shredder when I've always been a more blues-based lead player.
I’d so much rather just come to a 30 minute jam and run through 5 songs or whatever with them live. These days, finding band members who aren’t lunatics is neck and neck with musical tastes. Seems like there are more and more hardcore right politics guys in the music scene, and it sucks (to me). I’d rather play in a jam band with cool people/good musicians than a Mars Volta tribute band with cops.
Yeah, it's tough. This isn't exactly what I want to play but opportunities around here are limited. I don't sing so I have to join with others; can't just start my own thing. The ad said "seeking second guitarist for gigging cover band" or some such. If they had said 80s hard rock tribute I may not have responded. It'll be better than sitting at home buying gear for nothing I think.
Yeah, I’m currently at home twiddling my thumbs. Played a couple shows last summer with a band and it just wasn’t my thing. I want to start a band with 3 incredible musicians and have it be like their third band. I want to play 4 shows per year and no more. Ha. Not trying to play 6 shows a month.
i've got my 5th live show for my solo project coming on the 21st. will be the first time i've performed in about 4 months, i'm feeling the nerves for sure. i also recently started a two piece band with a friend and as convenient as solo stuff is, working with another musician really takes it to the next level.
I've played on stage once in my life: Little Martha in a talent show in law school years ago. Then took about 10 years off from playing and started playing again about a year ago. Now I'm going to share my playing with people for the second time. Here's my video I uploaded a few months ago trying to work out Deal by the Grateful Dead. Had had a couple drinks and got lost on the chord progression for a couple bars in the second verse and then improvised the solo as far as I could before it started to sound like shit. Please excuse the mess in the background. We were in the process of moving out.
Nice archtop! I know jack about Grateful Dead but sounding good, you've got the fingerpicking thing down. Looks like you're ready to learn some jazz
I'm not ready for jazz. My music theory knowledge is just starting to come together. Jazz would break my brain. I'm good on blues, jamband stuff, and when I've had enough stimulants, I can try some bluegrass. That's about it for now. I've wasted most of my guitar life trying to work open tunings and get good at slide, but I'm only marginally better now than I was when I first started. Go figure. The finger picking is more of a result of necessity. I never have picks lying around so I have always just played with my fingers.
BTW, that guitar is probably my most valuable asset, aside from my house and cars. It's a 1961 Gibson Byrdland. My wife's uncle left that and a 1964 Gretsch Chet Atkins to me when he died. It was inheriting those guitars that kind of got me back into playing. My entire time knowing her uncle, he had Alzheimer's so i never got to really know him and had no idea he was a musician when he was younger (and have no idea how he ever had capacity to add me to his will -- but not complaining!). It was definitely an unexpected surprise.
Fingerpicking hurts my tender right hand fingertips. I played a 2 hour gig on bass once. Ended up with water blisters on two finger tips
I don't know enough about their guitars to comment on similarities. But I do no know the Byrdland is pretty unique. It has very narrow fret spacing so you can reach notes. It was created for jazz players who need to reach multiple frets to create their wild jazz chords. It's my go-to guitar, and now I struggle when I pick up a guitar with standard fret spacing.
I'm not joining the 80s metal band btw. Other guitarist spent the whole time roasting my tone. I played a PRS through a Fender amp. It's true the Fender amp doesn't do high gain sounds well. But like, can I play or not? I can get a pedal to sound more 80s.
I'm not sure how close you can get with pedals and a fender to 80s tones. I mean maybe you can. I've never tried something like that but that's like modded Marshall/JCM800 sounds and a Fender amp is very different from that
Yes. I just wasn't going to that length for the audition. I put in a good bit of time to learn the riffs and the solos; I figured the tone could come later. The other guitarist just seemed kind of arrogant and stuck on the 80s as the end all be all of music
I bought my current rig to play indie/shoegaze haha. I didn't take the Jazzmaster though; that's why I played the PRS.
I think this would get you close. Unfortunately the one I own is this Turns out overdrive ain't metal.
The super overdrive is a great boost though. Do you have an effects loops on the Fender? You could unplug the input and put the metal zone through the effects loops where you're just using the power amp section of the amp.
I think Fuchs overdrive amps are the best I've heard. A dumble amp with such a powerful overdrive sound and can get as clean or distorted as you could possibly want. I can't afford the amp, so I run a Fuchs pedal through my Fender Deville and get a pretty close facsimile. If you're going for a Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Jimmy Herring, or Luther Dickinson sound, this is what you want. 10/10 would recommend
I don't think so? Unless preamp out, power amp in is the same thing. I've never understood what an effects loop does versus just plugging pedals into the normal input.
Yeah you’d run into the power amp in in this case. Bypassing the preamp on the fender and feeding it whatever you were getting out of your pedals. Main benefit of an effects loop vs in front of the amp would be with delays/reverbs. They tend to sound much better after your gain stage vs before.
Effects loops is good for time based effects like reverb and delay. It bypasses the preamp section where you not adding distortion or color to those things but instead adding them after that
You can also use pedals like the MZ in the loop because it bypasses all the coloring the amp does and the amp would simply amplify the sound the pedal is making
Even doing 80s metal, 2 guitars with super high gain is mostly likely going to sound like shit unless somebody is a sound expert. In a live context, less gain is usually better (to me). 2 guitars having Dimebag Darrell’s tone would be a fucking nightmare.
Could max the SD1 level and tone into your preamp and scoop out the mids as much as possible to get “close” but yeah that is where other pedals would get closer to the sound you need.
That only applies if you're using the amp's distortion though right? In this case, I was using the amp distortion. But you could use the amp's clean channel if you're gonna get all the fuzz from a pedal.
Anybody ever do the stereo thing with two combo amps? I have a Boss Stereo Chorus. Would be cool to pair the Fender with another amp (in the indie band)
The byrdland is pretty different though, fully hollow and single cutaway. More like a 175 but the byrdland is all solid vs laminate on a 175