ITT we talk/read about organized crime

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    I would say he was guilty but the State did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt. my guess is he pushed her and banged her head on the corner of the stairs or baseboard
     
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    No broken bones in the skull, no brain trauma
     
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    No motive
     
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    I thank you
     
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    Back to the subject of actual organized crime, inside the American mob on Netflix is pretty good. Certainly worth a watch
     
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    How good was it
     
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    Gives a decent background on each of the five families. Starts in the 70s and goes through the 90s. Gives a ton of credit to Rudi Giuliani for bringing them down
     
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    Like for the recap, not for Rudy
     
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    Fuckin snitch
     
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    Anyone listen to Crimetown podcast? The first season covers the Providence RI mob in the 70s - 90s
     
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    Reputed Gambino Boss Who Shunned Limelight Is Murdered Outside Home

    Francesco Cali, reputed leader of the Gambino crime family, in a mugshot taken in 2008 by the Italian police.CreditItalian Police, via Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
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    By Michael Wilson and Benjamin Weiser

    • March 14, 2019
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    Francesco Cali wore the label quietly: old school. The reputed boss of the Gambino crime family was nothing like John J. Gotti, the “Dapper Don” who ruled the same operation when Mr. Cali was a little boy.

    He kept a low profile in his Staten Island neighborhood, yet he met the same bloody fate as many of his predecessors on Wednesday night, gunned down in the street outside his brick home in a brazen assassination that recalled the mob wars of decades past.

    Mr. Cali, 53, was shot six times in the Todt Hill section of Staten Island at around 9:20 p.m., the police said. Neighbors heard a staccato burst of gunshots — “pow-pow-pow-pow-pow,” one said on Wednesday night — all the same volume, as if fired from the same gun. A blue pickup truck was spotted fleeing the scene, the police said.

    has appealed to mob bosses.]

    The former Gambino boss Paul Castellano was gunned down outside Sparks Steak House in Midtown in 1985, a power grab orchestrated by a young Mr. Gotti, who ran the family through the late 1980s in his trademark showy style.

    Mr. Cali rose quickly through the ranks of the family, becoming a “made” member in the late 1990s, on the way to a “swift promotion” to acting captain in less than 10 years, a prosecutor, Joey Lipton, said at a 2008 detention hearing after Mr. Cali’s arrest in an extortion case. In Federal District Court in Brooklyn, Mr. Lipton cited Mr. Cali’s “familial and blood ties” to the Gambino family, and his “very close relationship” with John D. D’Amico, known as Jackie, who had become the acting boss of the family around 2005.

    Mr. Cali’s swift rise did not please everyone. One Gambino soldier, Joey Orlando, was overheard on a wiretapped call that was disclosed at the hearing complaining about Mr. Cali, whom he described as “Jackie’s guy.”

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    “Jackie made him a skipper,” Mr. Orlando was overheard saying. “Some snot-nosed, 30-year-old kid.”

    Prosecutors said Mr. Cali’s influence extended to Italy, where many members and associates in his crew were from, and where he was seen as a man of “influence and power” by other organized crime figures.


    Paul Castellano led the Gambino crime family until he was murdered in Manhattan in 1985.CreditRuby Washington/The New York Times
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    In one wiretapped call, two mobsters speaking in Italian were overheard discussing Mr. Cali. “He’s a friend of ours,” one said, “He is everything over there.”

    Mr. Cali was arrested only once, in a 2008 extortion case involving a failed attempt to build a Nascar track in Staten Island. The Gambino family controlled the trucking operation that would have hauled the dirt to fill the track’s foundation.

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    He rose to power by avoiding detection. Other captains were not allowed to call him directly, and he avoided speaking on the phone. He chose to meet in person.

    “He’s directing the activity from above,” Mr. Lipton, the prosecutor, said. He added: “Cali did not have to get his hands dirty.”


    John Gotti ran the Gambino family through the late 1980s in his trademark showy style.CreditKeith Meyers/The New York Times
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    “He was very, very, very low key,” another law enforcement official who investigates Mafia cases said, speaking on the condition of anonymity for security reasons. “He was sort of the polar opposite of John Gotti.”

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    “He is as old school as you get,” the official added. “He’s basically a ghost. Where Gotti was always out, he was a ghost. You wouldn’t see him at social clubs or night clubs or boxing matches.“

    The Gambino family was once the nation’s largest and most influential organized crime group, but several of its leaders were convicted in the 1990s of crimes that included murder and racketeering. Mr. Cali’s death arrives amid a recent spate of violence in the Mafia underworld.

    In October, Sylvester Zottola, 71, a reputed associate of the Bonanno crime family was shot and killed as he waited in his S.U.V. to pick up an order at the drive-through window of a McDonald’s in the Bronx.

    Just three months earlier, Mr. Zottola’s son, Salvatore Zottola, was ambushed by a gunmanand left for dead outside his family’s Throgs Neck compound. He survived.
     
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    Wow bloody handprint on the car
     
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    The Zottola killing was probably the albanians. They were after them for over a year and theres a crazy video of his son dodging bullets around cars.
     
  18. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    I read about these until I hit my limit on NYT articles and then I decided it was time to get back to work
     
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    DeMeo’s crew were fucking psychopaths with their Gemini method and their apparently lust for one murder per week. The method involved them inviting the victim into the apartment at their club, DeMeo would shoot them in the held then wrap it with a towel to limit the bleeding, then another guy would stab the already dead victim in the heart to stop the blood from running to the head wound. Fucking nuts.
     
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  21. Zebbie

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    Great article
     
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    Ooo
    not on Netflix anymore
     
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  23. gus_chiggins

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    True, but all the episodes are on youtube now
     
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    Long, but pretty good.

     
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    When has he ever been silent? He went on 60 minutes ffs
     
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    The Astros should really hire the, um, Sinaloa Cartel’s, uh, PR team
     
  29. JGator1

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    Don't think he did any major media since then and he was in jail for a long time. I've only watched some of it so far but Gravano's drug network in Arizona was hilariously incompetent and apparently he was clueless as a contractor, pretty funny when he talks up his business acumen.
     
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    IIRC that was right after he got released and right before he entered witness protection and “disappeared”
     
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    There was an interesting episode of Locked Up Abroad about an english stock broker who moved to Arizona and became a big ecstasy dealer. As he got bigger he bumped into his competition who turned out to be Sammy the Bull. Sammy ended up going down for running a 30,000 pill per week operation and doing another 20 years.
     
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    today is the 34 year anniversary of the Paul Castellano hit



     
  35. JGator1

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    Random footage outside the Ravenite Social Club of Gotti and other Gambino members, including Peter Gotti offering the camera guy some ice cream at around 6:20

     
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    Guilliani looks actually lucid
     
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  38. JGator1

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    Sounds interesting if there's a bunch of new material but I've seen most of these people interviewed before for mob documentaries.

    The amount of profanity in wiretaps like this Tommy Agro one is pretty funny
     
  39. Joey Freshwater

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    Definitely will watch. Mob shit has always been fascinating to me. The power they had in the 70s was insane.
     
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    feel like the power they had in the Luciano days was bigger since they didn’t have wiretaps and the FBI breathing down their throats no?

    I would think it was much easier to get away with murder in the early days with how easy it was to pay off local cops, judges, mayors etc than it was in the 70’s and 80’d with the advancements in surveillance and snitches
     
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    My mother-in-law grew up in Bay Ridge. Her stories make it sound like they operated completely out in the open in the 50's and 60's.
     
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  43. JGator1

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    They had the most amount of power in the 50s when Frank Costello was in charge of the Genovese family (controlled pretty much every judge). Prohibition was the biggest moneymaking opportunty ever. The other height of their power was the 80s because they were involved in legit businesses through unions (construction, garment district, ports, meatpacking, etc) along with traditional rackets (gambling, loansharking, porn, drugs, car theft, robberies, etc).
     
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    I was about to comment that this was an old story, since I recognized the photo from the news articles when the brother was murdered a few years ago.
     
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    You know literally everything abut organized crime