J Lo & Shakira share co-MVP award

Gavi’s mom allegedly

 

Could you imagine if it was both?

 

Tax avoidance is the legal strategic approach of minimizing your tax burden by using what the system gives you.
Tax evasion is avoiding paying your taxes illegally.

Thanks,

Wayne

 

She needs to keep her hips not lying.

 

Zero tolerance for such a thing. Send her to a work release program in remote Alaska.

 

I understand your grief totally, but I think the pressure should be on avoidance of a 56% tax bill being charged by an incompetent government. Why should those citizens pay more than half their income to a pyramid of bureaucracy?

 

This is a terrible argument. We have an incompetent government. Does that mean I should be okay with not paying taxes?

 

Thats a terrible argument, we don’t pay 56% lol

 

What’s your cutoff for it being okay?

 

Optimist, my cutoff is allowing citizens to innovate and avoid a ceiling on their efforts. It befuddles me that people think it’s ok to down pressure working class.

 

I’m arguing that bureaucracy leading to compounding taxes with no benefit is nonsense.

 

Nothing, he asked my threshold for tax %

 

calm down danny boy

I tend to think the Spanish government should not be entitled to taxes on all her income but that's just me. Is a unique situation considering she's not a citizen/not employed by a Spanish company

 

Hammer capital gains then?

 

It’s a fucking dumb argument because you pay what you owe, or theoretically, you vote for new taxes

after paying what you owe

 

For those that don't follow soccer, basically a dozen or so high profile soccer players playing in Spain have been found guilty of tax evasion over the last few years and given prison sentences under 2 years, which are suspended under Spanish law, so they don't serve actually serve them.

Anyway, she should have never fell in with that bad influence Pique.

 

you’re married to a woman, I think, not named shakira

 

Yea I’m not arguing that point either. If I paid 3/5 of my income in taxes, I would expect to be living in a country that had a GDP per capita greater than 27k US. It’s obvious we have a disconnect here, Ive liked you as a poster for 15 years, let’s agree to disagree

 

I assume Spain isn't particularly interested in the bullshit where rich folks set up an account in a tax haven country and direct their image and endorsement payments to that account. A novel idea the US should look into.

 

hasn’t US had a 70% effective tax rate within the last 100 years?

 

Show me documentation of that

 

I think I’m using the wrong Terminology but 70% was not unreasonable for the wealthy was it?

 

I personally think you’re confused.

 

highly possible, but Baseline, I thought there were times in the US you could pay 70% taxes

 

This is the sole reason why the illustrious Harry Redknapp never managed Barcelona nor Real Madrid.

 

https://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24489

 

There were times in the early 20th century that taxes were 70%. If that was your point, you’re correct. I was speaking to an average over years for tax collection.

 

she could not pay a dollar in taxes the rest of her life and i wouldn't care

 

27kUSD per capita is ridiculous though. That’s a systemic issue within Spain that has been projected upon Shakira. It’s a product of out of control governance.

 

Why would anyone do business in Spain? It’s similar to two magnets with identical poles meeting. It doesn’t work.

I know, magnets, how do they work

 

That’s fair, We’re arguing different points.

I probably should have started a different thread for tangents

 

on millions of income? Seems like $20

 

This guy gets it

 

How about someone start a ‘foreign tax policy thread’ and you guys can argue in that

 

Rich people avoiding paying taxes. A tale as old as time

 

I don't know what Spain would do with itself without Shakira's music

 

I think we need to know what social safety nets are in place there and the quality of living funded by taxes over there compared to here before we throw out tired right wing talking points about wasteful government spending and burdensome red tape

 

If is so great, what happened to the Armada?

 

Sounds like she needs to call Jenny from t̶h̶e̶ H&R Block

 

they went and chilled on barcelona's nude beaches.

 

No one expects the Spanish Taxquisition