Jags hire Urban Meyer

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  1. Jack Parkman

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  2. dukebuckeye

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    He’ll go to the NFL right after he beings Texas a national title
     
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  4. Jack Parkman

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    But not before he does the same at USC
     
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  5. Jimmy Mac

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    Hope he does it, I’ve always wondered how his coaching would translate to the big boys.
     
  6. Todd Bonzales

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    I don’t think that style has a high chance of success, at least the yelling and shit with adult professionals. Could be wrong.
     
  7. dukebuckeye

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    He’s stated many times that his lack of desire to coach in the NFL is because he loves the impact and development of 18-22 year olds.
     
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  8. Jimmy Mac

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    I was more thinking of his ultra competitive environment that he kind of instills at each stop. I don’t watch a lot of Meyer games but I don’t recall him just lighting into guys, maybe I missed that.
     
  9. dukebuckeye

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    Kinda goes with my post above, but yeah, his style wouldn’t be received as well at the professional level.
     
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  10. Jack Parkman

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    hes a master motivator and recruiter

    he’s perfect for college and like saban learned it’s hard to be effective chewing out or motivating players who make triple what you make
     
  11. Harry Twatter

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    His style would fit with an organization like New England that is willing to allow for murderers and also willing to sweep all other shitbag transgressions under the rug.
     
  12. Jack Parkman

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    :doge:
     
  13. Wee Bey

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    Does anyone actually believe him when he (or anyone else) says this? Does he think we don't know he coached Aaron Hernandez?
     
  14. Doc Louis

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    I admire how full of the holiday spirit you are, but some miracles just aren't happening.
     
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    He's also stated many times he couldn't handle the losing that comes with the NFL. He would view a 9-7 season as complete failure even if it should be viewed as a success if it was a rebuilding year.
     
  16. Where Eagles Dare

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    Nice, he'll really be able to recruit Fla well with his connections
     
  17. TC

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    Good way to get your roster to 4.3
     
  18. buckwild

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    dblplay1212CUM
     
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    dblCUM1212
     
  20. IrishLAX2

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    Tony Dungy was asked about this now that he does broadcasts for ND games. He said he’s very much retired, but there is a huge allure for many coaches to help mold young men that age.

    So yes, I do think it is an appealing to some coaches and believe them when they say it. I’m not sure Id put Urban in that camp though. His motivations are probably different.
     
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  21. TC

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    4 years each at Texas, Southern Cal and ND and then he’ll do pros
     
  22. Jack Parkman

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    dungy though hasn’t coached in over a decade so it’s understandable that that fire to coach burned out long especially now that he’s 65

    urban “retiring” when he did while still running a highly successful program only a few years ago makes me very skeptical that that fire to coach has burned out
     
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  24. The Banks

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    Isn’t recruiting better under Day than Urban?
     
  25. FriendsofJtyler

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    Trevor + Urban would be pretty awesome.
     
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  26. Mr. Bean

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    That could be argued but Urban is one of the GOAT recruiters in his own right.
     
  27. Jack Parkman

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    day may be a great recruiter but IMO they are riding the wave that urban created

    Almost like muschamp after Urban left except they have the advantage of keeping Urbans assistants so the relationships kept on rolling
     
  28. NineteenNine

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    He’s not an offensive wizard or a defensive guru. He’s a recruiter. He would crash and burn hard in the nfl and has to know that.

    that said, I like a good train wreck. So I hope it happens. As long as he doesn’t die mid-game.
     
  29. Jake Barnes

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    Yeah, don’t think that will be a great move.

    Urban and Saban have very similar coaching profiles, and from what I’ve seen, neither are particularly proficient in Xs and Os gamesmanship on game days. That makes it tough in the league.
     
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  30. The Banks

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    But it’s not just riding the wave, its getting objectively better.
     
  31. Jack Parkman

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    hey if you want to say day is a better recruiter than Urban that’s fine

    I’m not going to say that though
     
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  32. Jack Parkman

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    he is great at building a college staff, he’s built great staffs everywhere he’s been

    Idk what type of nfl staff he could build but that would be the big question that likely determines his success
     
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  33. Mr. Bean

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    You don’t need to be a X&O genius to be a successful HC in the NFL. It’s a management role, which I think he could be quite good at, provided he’s working with the right GM and ownership group. And he will wait as long as he wants IMO to find the right situation with those conditions + the QB.

    The motivator thing is not a big deal IMO, it is a strength of his which doesn’t necessarily carry over the pro football but that’s not a knock on him. Can he get the most out of his players? Yes. Guys like John Harbaugh and a few others are great in that role without being a schematic genius.
     
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    It’s only a 2.5 hour drive from Austin to Houston.

    100% chance Urban leads both the Longhorns and the Texans to glory next season.
     
  35. kennypowers

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    Jags finally get a franchise QB...I was wondering how we would torpedo it. Hire a first time NFL HC and give him the GM title would be a little too on the nose even for Shad Khan.
     
  36. The Banks

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    Why do you think recruiting is going better under Day than Urban?
     
  37. Jack Parkman

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    The motivational stuff could work, I just don’t know how likely it is that it works. Idk if it’ll motivate the jags players when he plasters the final score from the colts/jags games in their lockers or replaces the cakes in the urinals with the Texans logos like he has in college

    motivating kids against their hated rivals and motivating adult millionaires are two different animals but he was a psychology major so I’m sure he could find a way
     
  38. Jack Parkman

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    Do you think Ryan day is a better recruiter than urban Meyer?
     
  39. Bricktop the white

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    Saban is the by far best ever ncaa coach and he got laughed out of the NFL.

    You definitely need to be an elite xs and os guy if you want real sustainable nfl success.
     
  40. dukebuckeye

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    Day is a really good recruiter, but having the entire infrastructure that Urban put in place is a big factor why. Larry Johnson, Brian Hartline, Kerry Coombs, Kevin Wilson, Mark Pantoni, and Micky Marrotti are elite assistants that are part of that infrastructure.
     
  41. The Banks

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    There’s no question that urban built the infrastructure, the question is who is doing better with it on the recruiting front.
     
  42. Detlef Schrempf

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    They went from 4-12 prior to his first season to 9-7 the second year, he went 6-10 his second year because he chose Culpepper over Brees. He didn’t get laughed out of the league.
     
  43. dukebuckeye

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    Too early to tell. Urban had some awesome classes, none better than the 2013 class. Day probably needs 2-3 more years before we can effectively compare. It feels like Day is recruiting at a slightly better clip.
     
  44. The Banks

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    He objectively is right now. The question is just whether he can keep it up or if it will fall off. Time will tell.
     
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    As long as we keep winning and developing NFL talent, I don’t see the train slowing down.
     
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  46. UncleJesse

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  47. Detlef Schrempf

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    I assume it’s because he made the jump from the league back to college that the assumption was he failed, he didn’t, he made a choice. A very lucrative one.
     
  48. TC

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    No shit Sherlock
     
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