Jags fire Urban Meyer

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  1. dukebuckeye

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    Wow. Rude.
     
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  2. Gritty Badger

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    to be fair he’s only the best ever ncaa coach because he went back to the JVs after his mediocre NFL performance.

    we all know JJ is the gold standard
     
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  3. dukebuckeye

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    That’s pretty much all you guys have left at this point, no?
     
  4. Gritty Badger

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    Miami won 3 championships after JJ left which is more than you guys have won in 50 years lmbo
     
  5. Pelican

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    No surprise that Urban and Shelley would follow Kyle Lamb to Florida.
     
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  6. dukebuckeye

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    Easy to win Natties when all you need to do is win the Big East and then beat #Nebraska Cornhuskers

    Id like to see you guys try to beat 2002 Miami
     
  7. Jack Parkman

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  8. Boo MFer!

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    Taking the Jacksonville job is just part of Urban’s continued politicking to get inducted into UF’s Ring of Honor.
     
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  9. BayouMafia

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    Losing Ricky Williams to a year long suspension didn’t help either
     
  10. Jack Parkman

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    ehh Ricky was behind Ronnie brown during saban’s years
     
  11. BayouMafia

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    True, but in the previous season Williams had 150 fewer yards (750 vs 900 for Brown) and actually had more yards per game but missed 4 games due to injury, plus he had more touchdowns. He was a significant loss
     
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  12. Jack Parkman

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    The year he was suspended Ronnie brown had one of the best years of his career and only 1000 yard season of his career.

    rushing wasn’t our issue that year, the issue was that we trotted out the combo of Joey Harrington, daunte culpepper, and Cleo lemon to be our QB’s
     
  13. Whammy Business

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    Heard Saban speak at a coaching clinic once. He was more than happy to throw the Dolphins medical staff under the bus for the Brees-Culpepper debacle.
     
  14. NineteenNine

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    Shocker.
     
  15. Fusiontegra

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    Enjoyed this thread while the Urban-Day discussion was raging; that topic is way better than seriously discussing him as Jacksonville’s next coach
     
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  16. Boo MFer!

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    Because he’s already inked his deal to be the new Jags coach?
     
  17. CF3234

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    He picked Ronnie brown over Aaron Rodgers and culpepper over drew brees.
    Guy had no idea how to manage the egos of men making more money than him. He failed in the NFL and ran back to college before it got really bad. Simple as that
     
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  18. lfriend

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    I think he picked Brees but the medical staff wouldn't pass him.
     
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  19. CF3234

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    That’s the story he sold to make himself look better but there are plenty of people from inside the org that said he made the call.
     
  20. dblplay1212

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    Link to them on the record?
     
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  21. CF3234

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    I’m not searching for it. It’s out there though.
     
  22. Jake Barnes

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    "Coach X picked Y over Aaron Rodgers" could be used on most of the NFL brain trust, guy was drafted 24th.

    Can we do the same thing with "Coach X picked these 6 guys over Tom Brady"?
     
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  23. dblplay1212

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    Oh
     
  24. JGator1

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    I mean short of giving everyone truth serum or something we'll never really know since every party involved is heavily incentivized to blame someone else.
     
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  25. steamengine

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    Imagine how many Aaron Hernandez situations he prevented over the years though.
     
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  26. Boo MFer!

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    :roll:
     
  27. dblplay1212

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    This is in Brees book

    Brees had significant interest on the table from the Saints. But he wanted to find out if Saban had the same faith in him that (Sean) Payton and Mickey Loomis had in New Orleans. So Brees picked up the phone and called Saban, who told him the Miami team doctors believed Brees had a 25 percent chance to come back and be the same quarterback, or better, that he'd been before the shoulder surgery.

    According to the book, Brees said to Saban: "Coach, I know what your doctors believe about me. My question is, what do you believe?''

    Wrote Brees: "Nick Saban paused. That was really all I needed to hear. His pause told me everything. 'Well, Drew,' he said, 'I would still love to have you, but I have to trust what our medical people are saying ...' He went on from there, like he was reading from a script. But I was starting to tune out. By then I had all the information I needed. I had made my decision.''
     
  28. Hank Scorpio

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    I'm sure some undergrad classes he took 35+ years ago gave him great insight in to coaching/motivating people worth as much or more than him while being half his age.
     
  29. GoodForAnother

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    I’m not one that believes that Urban’s college strategy of “being better than your opponent at every position on the field” will translate well to the NFL
     
  30. Fusiontegra

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    Seems to work for KC heyyooooo
     
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  31. Jack Parkman

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    Meyer becoming an NFL coach could become a reality over the next 10 days or so, as sources confirmed to Yahoo Sports that there has been outreach by multiple franchises to gauge Meyer’s interest.

    The news broke on a day when Jacksonville solidified itself as perhaps the NFL’s most intriguing destination, as the 1-14 Jaguars are slated to get Clemson’s Trevor Lawrence with the top pick in the NFL draft and are expected to part ways with coach Doug Marrone. The general manager job is already open.

    Will Meyer go to the NFL? Here’s the safest answer: Meyer certainly isn’t headed back to college, as college coaching is amid a sea change that could lead to an influx of coaches in college football exploring the NFL.

    There are clear signs of Meyer’s interest in the NFL, as sources say he has been intrigued enough that he has researched the league through former players and friends, inquired about potential staff and is learning how the front-office infrastructure works.


    Meyer is an obsessive competitor, and sources close to him say that the NFL is intriguing because he’d be able to test himself at the highest level of football. Meyer’s favorite times in coaching have been amid rebuilds at Bowling Green and Utah, and there’s a chance an NFL job would allow him to overhaul the culture of an entire organization in a similar way.

    There are drawbacks, however, that would slow down any notion that Meyer leaving his Fox television gig for the sideline is imminent. Meyer’s health, which led to him stepping down at Ohio State in 2018, remains a factor. He has a congenital arachnoid cyst in his brain, which required surgery in 2014 and haunted him throughout the 2018 season, where the image of him doubled over in pain on the sideline still lingers. Meyer also truly enjoys his analyst role for Fox, as a switch back to the sideline would mark a distinct lifestyle change and risk his legacy as one of the best coaches of his era.
     
  32. Jack Parkman

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    dblplay1212 care to comment on your upCUMing coach?
     
  33. Spontaneous Cumbustion

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    “as college coaching is amid a sea change that could lead to an influx of coaches in college football exploring the NFL.”

    What sea change?
     
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  34. Sean Connery

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    Global warming is leading to more college coaches in the NFL
     
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  35. Jack Parkman

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    thamel doesn’t really go into detail on it, this is what he said


    Will college coaches jump to the NFL?
    We did a list a few weeks back of potential college coaches who could end up in the NFL. There have been two college coaches the past two seasons who’ve made the leap — then-USC OC Kliff Kingsbury and Baylor’s Matt Rhule. Prior to Kingsbury being hired in 2019, there was a four-year gap from 2015-18 for the NFL hiring a college coach. (That was Bill O’Brien jumping from Penn State to the Houston Texans in 2014.)

    The days of the NFL not plucking a college coach for four years are long over. The combination of the changing nature of the college job and the shallow pool of NFL candidates is going to keep the NFL engaged in the college ranks.

    “I think the reason we’ll see more college guys go to the NFL is the pool of pro coaches ready to be head coaches is so much smaller,” said an industry source. “Guys like Matt Campbell, Dan Mullen and Pat Fitzgerald, those kinds of guys will be in the mix now.”
     
  36. dblplay1212

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    Pass.
     
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  37. jokewood

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    Larry Coker, Randy Shannon, and Al Golden were fossil fuel industry plants to obscure the real reason the Miami football program literally fell off the map.
     
  38. ned's head

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    The portal seems to be one. Feels like you'll need to recruit your current roster in addition to high schoolers every year.

    Dabo doesn't need that hassle and should just go to the nfl to avoid it
     
  39. Mr. Bean

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    CFB is changing at an accelerating rate. Jumping to the pros is a wise move right now
     
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  40. Mr. Bean

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    Also, this seems different from the UT smoke. UT was more “if”, this seems “when”, with multiple bidders

    CUM’s agent and PR people working their asses off to drive up the price of the opening bid
     
  41. Jack Parkman

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    Who is Urbans agent these days? I know Armstrong and him parted ways during the Zach smith fiasco
     
  42. Jack Parkman

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    Who do you want then?
     
  43. buckwild

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    I think JAX would be the only one that would interest him enough. He gets Lawrence and gets to move crazy town Shelley down to Florida where she wants to live.
     
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  44. Spontaneous Cumbustion

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    He won 2 of your 3 national titles and he’s not going to get in the ring of honor? Are you guys are still being weird about him leaving?
     
  45. dblplay1212

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    Idk someone from the NFL. College is such a different game. And his best quality, recruiting, is lost. If it were to replace Saban in 2042, sign me up.
     
  46. Jack Parkman

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    ok Adam Gase it is
     
  47. kennypowers

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    There are like 8, maybe 10 programs right now where college football is not utter shit. Everyone else still may enjoy the pageantry, supporting their alma mater, or reliving the glory years...but at the end of the day their teams don’t matter and they are fighting for some shit bowl game in a city no one wants to vacation in.
     
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  48. UncleJesse

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  49. Fusiontegra

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    I think he best coaching trait is building a staff. Recognizing that loyalty gets you nowhere if a guy isn’t cutting it.
    I’m on the record as saying I don’t want him in jacksonville but I could see him being successful in the long run.
     
  50. kennypowers

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    There is no long run with urban, he quits everywhere because he can’t take the stress. Fuck that, we’re about to draft Trevor Lawrence and have him on a rookie contract for four years. We should probably target a coach that could make it that long.
     
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